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Um I want to give the gentleman Victor
who I was told two weeks ago converted
officially. So Victor please.
>> Thank you. Shalom.
>> Shalom.
>> Provide to a singer and I was literally
listen to your whole class that day and
it was amazing. I was in the process of
my conversion back then and Baru Hashem.
Um I finished my my my process uh two
weeks ago on the 14th of Kislv. My name
is Joseph Yehuda. I come from Guatemala.
I came from the beautiful coast of the
Caribbean that belongs to Guatemala. I
grew up in a very poor family and a very
little island probably about 12 houses
when education is was the worst or
nothing. Um I grew up in a in a family
in a non-religious family but they call
themselves Christians. Um broken and
abusive. So I didn't have no school, no
no high school, no nothing. But at age
of 13 something literally start it's
like it was like a bright light hitting
my my heart in my brain then I needed to
learn to pray. It was like something
that I never knew never know nobody tell
me about anything like that and someone
somehow I start talking to a god that I
never hear before or it wasn't never
presented to me. It was like a deep deep
connection to this being in disguise.
Somehow I remember when I was younger in
that age, my dad used to tell us the
stories about the Bible, the Torah. And
he used to tell us the story of Noah and
and the rain, how rain came in and
destroy everything and also the story of
Moshe taking the Jewish people from
Egypt from the slavery. And he was he
was supposed to Catholic. His mother was
very Catholic, but we were not raised
religious point blank. But daddy's story
stay deep in my heart and my mind and
never left until today's day. And I'm
just wonder why did he do that? And I
will probably never understand why. But
I believe that Hashem uh always use ways
to bring his people back and to give the
message to the souls of the Jewish
people. And for me is an honor. I feel
so humble that I I belong I I knew in my
heart I belong to the the Jewish people
before when I start this process. But
now I'm part of the tribe and I am so
humble. I'm so pleased. I'm so I'm so
blessed that Hashem choose me from one
of the corners of the earth. And uh
Rabbi Tobia as well mentioned it before.
Hashem being is literally the prophecy
is happening. It's happening to me is
happening to Raquel, to Toba, to
everyone listening. I think uh we are
the testimony of the prophecy.
>> That's beautiful. I I just mentioned
anecdotally, I don't even know the
numbers, but I've been doing this a long
time. A very significant number. It's
not half. It's a little less than half
of the people who go through a
conversion or eventually discover that
they're they were Jewish all along. It's
not the majority because it's not always
so not everything is accessible, but
we're living in a time when there's more
information than ever. So, it's very
quite frequent that people discover that
that they they were Jewish all along,
which is Hashem calling them back. And
I'm very grateful to hear from you. I'm
very, you know, grateful to you.
>> Ysef Ysef
>> even better.
>> Such such a connection.
>> You You have two very powerful names.
What did you want to say? Yi.
>> Yeah. At the last days of my before a
week before my process, before my
technique, Rabbi Sinner, my my mentor,
he asked me, "Do you choose a name?" And
I said, "Yes, I have." And I love the
name of Eli Yahu Yahushua. I thought it
was very powerful. The meaning was
amazing. So a day before my mik day,
Rabbi Sinner presented me tomorrow this
person is going to do this and his name
is going to be blah blah blah blah. But
somehow I felt something deep in my
heart that that name did not belong to
me. And before I went to sleep, I say,
"Hashem, you know me before I before I
was in my mother's womb. and you know
how confused I am about the name that
I'm choosing because I think I'm
choosing for myself and I'm not allowing
you to choose for me. Will you please
choose the name for me? So I went to
sleep. The following day in the morning
I did exactly the same thing. I went to
LA. I live in nearby um about 10 a.m. in
the morning. Somebody from our who knows
me text me. The message says, "Hey
Victor, this is so and so. I just want
you to know that your name shall be
Joseph. Why? Joseph was a dreamer.
Joseph has dreams. And so he start with
this message. But I honestly didn't even
read the whole message. I honestly I was
so nervous. I didn't pay attention to
the message. But the name Joseph got it
stuck in my in my mind. And literally
minutes before the mikba day, the same
day, I keep thinking I don't have a
name. I don't have a name. And I cannot
have this going like this. And I say,
"Hashem, please give me the name that
I'm supposed to have, the name that you
choose for me." And I'm still having in
my mind the name Ely Yahoo somehow
kicking my my head. And at the moment
when I got into the waters, the waters
of the Mikbet, they asked me, "What is
what is the name that you choose?"
Instead of using the name Eli Yahu, my
tongue was twisted and I said, "Yep."
And I uh I was like my prayer was
answered. Hashem choose my name.
>> Wow. That's incredible. Yosefi Oda. That
is incredible. Amazing. But do you have
something that you want to ask?
>> So my family, they were not religious.
They're not religious. But uh somehow
not long ago, I I spoke to my brother
and explained uh the process that that
was uh of what I was going through uh
Judaism and and the love, the connection
that I have. and he's not even religious
person but his message back to me was
like you know we are Christians and I
said something like you probably are but
I wasn't I was never I never believe in
social person so how do you approach
someone with that kind of mentality even
if he's not a religious person
>> if your goal is to persuade someone so
using chess as a metaphor you always
want to play the black piece not the
white piece no
enjoys aggressive people. When I walk
into a store and a salesperson gets very
aggressive, I want to run out of the
store. What I always do when someone now
when someone tries to convert me, it's
simplist. I mean, I I dab them for such
events. That's a that's a lot of fun.
But I always ask a very simple question.
I ask, tell me, what's the most
compelling reason you think I should
believe in your religion? No matter what
it is, if someone's an atheist, if
someone's a Muslim, what's give me your
best shot like what's the most
compelling reason? And the mistake
people make is I in my view if you want
to change a person's mind. If you want
the person to reconsider is don't impose
what was important to you, but listen
carefully. That's why the shows I do are
always structured in a question answer
where I'm answering that person's
question, not why I think. So now you
have to be familiar with the material.
Of course, 62 miles southwest of where I
am right now is the Gaza Strip. I wasn't
trained in using weapons. It would be a
mistake for me to go there and fight
terrorists. But if you're familiar with
the material, so you just ask the
person, tell me what's the most
compelling reason in your view that I
should believe what you believe. You
have nothing to worry about. And the
person I I this happened to me Friday
night. I'll tell you craziest story.
Friday night I was sitting at the shabas
table and there was a Christian at the
shabas but I didn't know it there was a
Christian at the shabas table and a
whole group of people and I the
Christian wanted to persuade me so I
said please what's the most compelling
reason why you think a Jew should be a
Christian so he said because the
disciples of Jesus they all willingly
died for their religion and if they were
liars why would they willingly die for
what they believe. You know, liars make
bad martyrs. That's what he said. So, I
asked him a question. I asked him,
"Please tell me a single source anywhere
in the Christian Bible that says that
there was a Christian disciple that
willingly died for what he believes." He
said, "What are you talking about? Peter
willingly died, crucified upside down,
and Paul was beheaded in Rome." I said,
"Please, please show it to me." And he
had a New Testament with him. and he
started turning pages and when I saw he
was frustrated I said to him let me save
you a lot of time it's not in there it's
a Roman Catholic invention from the 3rd
century much later that these that Peter
was crucified upset all these stories
are not even in the Christian Bible and
Paul doesn't die in the Christian Bible
he's actually released from prison at
the end of the book of acts and it blew
his mind away like he just thought it
must be some verse somewhere I just
would say is the best way to persuade
someone is not to be aggressive to
rather ask tell me what is your best
most persuasive what do you tell me your
give me your best shot and ask like be a
mench no one wants to be treated
disrespectfully and then answer with
thought and then you'll be just fine
that's what I that's what I'd recommend
just ask what's your best shot that's
all now if you if you're not familiar
with the if you're watching my stuff
then you're familiar with the material
And that's all that's very easy. Always
ask someone, tell me what you think is
important to you. Thank you.