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welcome to week number three can you
believe that we're starting our third
week which means we are halfway through
and um
tonight's letter
is a letter that took a little bit of
extra research in order to properly
understand
because the Reba is writing
to an Israeli politician a fairly
prominent
Israeli politician but the one that I
had to do a little bit of research to
understand more properly what the
context of the letter was
and I will try to fill it in as we go
and remember the letter to uh Louis
Finkelstein where the rabbis said
why did Rubino accomplish
honor rich people and that ever was
explaining because Rabino kadish had to
uh guide the Jewish people during a time
of Crisis and when you're guiding the
Jewish people during a time of Crisis
you need to be a good talent scout and
you do you need to identify members of
the people who have influence and you
have to network with them remember that
letter like uh I don't remember how long
ago maybe it was probably over a week
ago
so this is a good example of that that
ABBA is sort of developing a
relationship
with this politician
um
not necessarily because this is someone
who's already an ally or at least not a
strong Ally completely aligned with the
devil's worldview which is similar to
the the letter to Finkelstein for that
matter but rather
in it as as was the case of the
Finkelstein letter and um many letters
from that but to many people that I was
writing to people who maybe you would
think would be unlikely
um
unlikely allies
but the rabbit perceives
an opportunity
to create a relationship and to find
common ground
and to expand that common ground
and that itself before we get into the
particulars of this letter I think that
itself is an incredible
teaching
and an instruction for all of us
that
there's no sense preaching to the choir
as we say
maybe even you can also preach to the
choir I'll redact that but
um
in addition to preaching to the choir
um you don't have to only talk to people
who already agree with you uh internet
bubble anyone
yeah
search engine Echo chamber anyone
in 2023 people is it what is it
yeah it is 2023. people are indignant
that other people could have different
opinions than them and they get really
upset about that that's it he posted
such and such on his Facebook which is
against my politics he's an idiot and I
have nothing to do with him anymore
right
well
let's learn from it
find common ground with people and
expand on that Common Ground okay it's a
common theme in the lab is life and that
is correspondences and that of his
teachings and that have his example
let's read the letter tonight okay
touching your test Brooklyn New York do
you know what the 13th of the second
other is
um it is Thai disaster at least in a
regular year it is unless Purim comes
out in matashabis in that case
uh the day before porm is Shabba so you
don't fast in Shabbos but in most years
you'd gimmel other base
is uh China zester it's a fast investor
so this is one that ever wrote this
letter the faster
foreign
who is Eliezer livner
or liebenstein was born in Poland in
Lodge Poland
and um
was an early
immigrant
during the pre-state
zionistic uh
immigration to the Holy Land
and he was actually part of the hagana
and he was aligned with that kind of
political uh group he became affiliated
with the mapai party that's ben-gurion's
party the very leftist uh
originally extremely dominant perhaps
even we could say they had a monopoly on
political power in the state so he he
was from that background
um
he was from that those those were his
friends those were his peers in addition
to being a politician
he was uh and I should mention that he
was an MK he was a member of knesset in
the very first knesset meaning right
after the Declaration of Independence in
and um at the time of that I was writing
to him here in 1959 he doesn't hold an
official
seat but he's still very active as a
politician
and he was also a writer in fact even
before
48 he was known for being a newspaper
editor
and apparently he was a good speaker as
well and just an influential person and
like I said he came from that background
maybe I should fill in just a little bit
more
um so Ben Gurion was the first rosham
the first prime minister of Israel and
he came from a very specific type of
demographic which I would say dominated
Israeli politics
for sure
for the first 20 years of the state and
that was I'll just say it bluntly
Eastern European ashkenazic
ular
leftist
um almost I don't even know if I should
say almost but anti-religious
um
thinkers intellectuals uh though that
was that was the ilk the dominated
politics in the in the early state
um the truth is
it wasn't really until Bagan won the
election 20 years after 30 years I'm
sorry 30 years after the founding of the
state that
um
that absolute dominance almost Monopoly
on power that Ben gurion's Party in My
Pie had over uh State politics
so I want to explain to you that live
now was part of that group
but he was sort of kind of like a fringe
within that group
so
what I'm saying to you is
he wasn't the type of person that you
would automatically say oh he's going to
be sympathetic to the agenda that the
debit wants to pursue
he wasn't religious at all he came from
that same background that same party
those same leanings
is Ben Gurion
um
but the Rebus saw in him
a slight let's say
opening of the door
and that ever seized it now I should
also tell you that when the devil wrote
to him on tyness Esther touching your
tests that was the second time that I
wrote to him the first time was a year
previously
livna had sent the Rebus some
articles that he wrote I mentioned to
you that he was a he was a very uh
gifted
author so he had sent the Deborah some
articles
and that ever responded
regarding the articles
so now this second letter
is not in response at least not in a
direct response to a letter from livnet
you know most of these letters will
begin
this is a bit like the standard way
that most of these letters will
will begin that I was saying like I'm
answering your letter and then I will
say the date
um when he received the letter so here
it doesn't start that way because the
lab is not directly responding to a
correspondence
um
that is
um well he's going to say why he's all
of a sudden reaching out that I was
going to say right now he's while he's
reaching out
uh greetings and blessings
so so whatever says it it reached my
hand and it came to me while potatoes
and according to say this
I'm laughing because that I've always
grabs an opportunity to teach this
this guy wasn't religious I don't know
if he was interested in learning say
this or not but whatever puts it right
in there right in the beginning and
according to see this
nothing isn't nothing is accidental
everything is Divine Providence
so the number puts that in like that
little my middle musker that little
parenthetical phrase so
the dev is basically explaining the
words nism
means it happened but nothing just
happens
so the dev is like I happen to receive
but nothing just happens on accident
everything of course is divinely
orchestrated what did I receive
ETI
a uh an excerpt from a newspaper article
isai
it says that you're gonna organize or
you are organizing a group of people who
are like-minded who have similar
Outlook a similar Outlook as you doim
regarding essential changes
in the field of finances or economics
livner was involved like I said he
wasn't
actively uh holding a seat at that point
but he was still very involved in
politics and he was still officially
very much aligned with mapai but from
within the party
he was attempting to make some changes
from within
um that would somewhat shake things up
and
shift some of the policies away from
what they had been they had been a very
hard line leftist a socialist
approach and at least in economic
matters
livner wanted to shift away from that
so here's where the Debussy is sort of
like the opportunity
for something
more okay
that Eva mentions also that in that
newspaper article or the excerpt of the
newspaper article that that ever read it
mentions another details a
that in this group it was by the way it
had a name it was called the mishtara
hadash
and uh
it wasn't like a party but it was uh
sounds to me more like a movement within
a party
So within that group
Das orthodoxim there are many religious
Orthodox members okay so livner is
making a shift away from
the
the more established party line
and he's starting a movement or a group
to address some changes in economics the
the economic policy at that time was
very very
um socialist
that did not change until until Pagan uh
was elected to office which was 20 years
almost 20 years after this letter
okay so the Deb is saying I heard that
or I saw that in a newspaper article I
see that there's some from guys who are
also part of this
okay
so let's see
now that episode in general in life
when you start to make a change
in one area of public policy and
influence
it's much easier than for the person
to add another new thing
to make other changes in his Outlook
okay you see where the Deb is going
that I was saying you're starting
something new
you're making a little bit of a
of a shake-up in the establishment that
they should
deviate from where the party line had
been before
so the devil says hey you know it's
possible that while you're shaking up
one area of people's world view you can
shake up other areas of their worldview
as well and in other words if we're if
we're into change right now for into
things that are new right now so uh
maybe this is an opening to to add some
more new
stuff
now compounding this together with this
so first of all There's an opportunity
because things are changing anyway
an additional aspect here
uh I don't know forgive my ignorance of
modern Hebrew maybe a real
erudite Israeli speaker can tell me if
hash boss gamely
word but if you can tell me if gamelin
uh maybe I could have Googled that
probably should have but tell me if
that's
an idiom if that is a an expression or
if the rabbit is creating that term
basically it means the law of
reciprocity it means that things
flow in a dynamic back and forth
so and ended up it says this law he
calls it a law
predominates in the world it's sort of
it's sort of just one of the
one of the many rules that the Creator
embedded in the universe that's just how
it works that when there's influence
going it sort of gets bounced back
that's how I'm describing this
gamelim okay so since that's the
situation how do I mean since that's the
law that's the way the world works
so for sure it's applicable also in this
situation
what am I talking about
I'm talking about the opportunity for
some of these religious members of your
group to have an influence
on the organization and its policies and
and uh
did just the organization in general
and on the other people in the
organization
and specifically what I mean is that
they should have an influence regarding
our religion Arturo and its mitzvahs
in other words these guys joined the
group okay so you sort of brought them
in and gave them uh a platform but
what's going to happen is it's just
inevitable this is the way things work
is just like you gave them this position
they're going to give back and they have
now an an opportunity to influence the
other members and the the Gen the the
the organization in general and what I'm
saying is maybe this new organization
can have a little bit more of a
religious
tone to it uh or or even just
a religiously sympathetic tone or maybe
even you could say as opposed to my
Pie's history it could at least just be
a little less hostile against religion
that's that's what the devil seems to be
saying here that you're shaking things
up anyway you're you have a few
religious guys in this new group as well
it would be an opportunity to sort of
adjust things and to get people to maybe
be a little bit more aligned with
traditional Torah values that's what the
dev is saying so you see that is seizing
an opportunity here
um
should I be like Paul Harvey and tell
you the rest of the story I mean we're
still in the middle of the
we're still in the middle of the the
letter
um I'll just finish this paragraph and
then I'll tell you the rest of the story
Thomas
says I love this there's always room for
improvement in this area
you know why I love it there's probably
other reasons to love it that I'm not
thinking of I love it because it's not
like the dev is saying oh you you're not
religious you need to improve you need
to become more religious no that was
saying there's always room for
improvement in this area if you were the
chief Rabbi I would encourage you to
strengthen in your personal observance
and your influence on other people's
personal observance I mean there's
always room for improvement when it
comes to
being more aligned with uh with Torah so
I like that for that reason okay so
anyways the rest of the story
is
um you know this live net was not
religious and to my knowledge he never
became religious but
um and his party never became religious
in the organization itself was not
religious but there was a softening
at least on his part personally
and he had
not only a sympathetic View
of Yiddish kite but later on
when things became even more difficult
to do so when meaning when there was
even greater pressure he stood up and he
took the side of yiddishkite
um
in touch and lamid so we're talking
about 11 years after this letter
um that I've made some comments about
Miu yehudi about the law of return and
about who is a Jew and defining Jewish
identity
and it was taken as a controversial
statement
and uh we're going to speak a little bit
more about mihu yehudi here in this
letter but mihu yehudi I'll explain a
little bit more was not such a hot
button issue in this in 1959 as it
became uh in the coming years
I will talk about about that a little
bit because the devil mentions at the
end of the letter but when the mihu
yehudi issue was becoming extremely
um contentious
uh
there was a big
pushback against statements that I've
had made and in fact there was an
article in
and it said that because of the devil's
position on mio yehudi that we should
prevent
uh the rabbit is moved to film the film
Campaign which of course we know that
ever started on the eve of the Six Day
War in 1967 the initiative of going
around and offering every Jewish man and
boy above Bar Mitzvah the opportunity to
put on philan as often as possible on
every weekday all days including
excluding Shabbos and yomtev
um and uh
so apparently
the the pushback was that since the deba
said something that the establishment
didn't like so now we should thwart
his villain campaign as well so Olivia
got up and again I mentioned he was a
gifted writer so this is very important
he used his pen and he wrote
an article defending the rebe
and defending with Philip and the devil
responded to it directly wrote him
another letter
and told him it was very interesting
that I just said first of all you should
know personally it's rare that the devil
would give glimpses into his personal
life but he says I grew up as the rabbi
as the son of the rabbi of Jacob in in
uh in in Russia in Ukraine and during
the
really heavy uh days of the stalinous
depression so it was uh not
it was not so uh it was not so easy to
be Jewish then
and uh he said my you know my father was
was a target of the of the government so
he says I I know what pressure I know
what pressure is all about right so he
says um
says
I wasn't
really so bothered by the the attacks
and the pressure
but why does villain have to be the the
the the victim here it's villain why why
is philan guilty why does there have to
be less filling you know they would want
to come after me okay come after me but
why why are you punishing villain so he
think livner for standing up for
thrilling and making sure that the mitza
would continue
okay so that's that's the rest of the
story that's where this relationship
goes but let's let's continue the letter
so you as the organizer of this group
by the way I think that he left that
group a year later
so
it wasn't necessarily that it
wasn't
the specific issue that that was writing
to him about
didn't necessarily materialize in an
obvious way
but it planted seeds which one of those
seeds sprouted in a way that we know
about which I just told you about a
minute earlier and who knows how many
other ways that it sprouted we're
talking about a very influential person
who was in the halls of power and spoke
to
all of the top people so whatever
influence that ever had on him I'm sure
had an effect that there would be
absolutely no way of us to actually
measure in any quantifiable way
so you as the organizer of this group
according to the newspaper article
you're the guy you're like the main
initiator You're The Advocate you're the
guy who came up with it
foreign
maybe you can be like the initiator and
you can get up and you can announce
meaning that I was saying it's not like
you're just invited to the party it's
your party you know you can do whatever
you want over there you started the
whole thing so you could be the guy who
gets up and announces
it is essential that we return to the
sources and I love this poetry here
to return to the sources which are
old new eternal
sort of a beautiful expression there the
old new Eternal it's a paradox it's both
Timeless And Timely
you can meme that if you want
send me uh
your likes all right
um
remember he was starting a whole new
thing that was his thing his whole thing
was called the new party or the new
organization that that's what he
actually called it so that I was saying
okay new is good but the new old eternal
so meaning it's funny
you can make you can truly be
Progressive do something new and shake
things up and and introduce Innovation
how by returning to
are
our tradition okay which is
both
ancient obviously has that
that Advantage but it's also
absolutely relevant
in
today's day and age I should tell you
also
the letter the next letter that ever
writes to live now
there's a great line in there
where the Nevis says
about
Toyota has to be practical Toyota has to
be actionable
and it actually says their hamisa which
is something that never said publicly
thousands of times the main thing is is
action so the devil points out
that you know in in Yiddish kite we have
philosophy the deepest philosophy and we
also have halaja which is a guide for
day-to-day practice so the devil says
look at the I said I said dubidus look
at the Ten Commandments themselves it
starts with aniki it starts with the
proclamation of of monotheism which is
the deepest of the deep
philosophy theology but it ends with
things like don't kill don't steal don't
covet like really day-to-day stuff
really pedestrian uh issues that people
deal with oh that actually uses an
English word there it doesn't use it
doesn't write it in English she writes
it it's one of those modern Hebrew words
which is actually an English word that
ever used the word Instinct team
instincts
that so the The Ten Commandments starts
with talking about the loftiest
spiritual Proclamation I'm the Lord your
God and in the end it talks about how
human beings have to deal with reigning
in their instincts with their most basic
animalistic instincts
well found that to be fascinating okay
and what is the old new Eternal uh
Source it is the
Torah that maishirobeno got from from
Sinai and all of its
mitzvasi dafke
and in a practical way specifically
meaning an action not just the ideas
um
yeah whatever says it here as well the
mice is the the main thing
foreign
only action is the true indicator of any
ideology in any person you want to see
what an ideology really is don't tell me
what it means on paper show me what it
does you want to tell me who A person is
don't tell me what the person teaches
what they say show me how they live
that's the only available that's our
only indication of what something really
is ubisignan
and in the language of the Magilla which
we're going to read in a few hours
remember I told you that I was writing
on Tinus Ester it's literally a few
hours before the
night mcgilla reading
so the devil says in the words of that
mcgiller that we're about to read
um
who knows
if it was for a moment just like this
that you ascended to the government to
the in this case in the megillah means
the kingship speaking to Esther that's
why it's in the feminine
um so why did you become Queen why did
you
why were you installed into the palace
perhaps just for this reason Esther so
that you could save your people and
whatever takes those words that were
said to Esther and he says them to
Eliezer livnir and says maybe the whole
reason why you are a powerful guy and
that you're on the inside and that
you're uh connected in Israeli politics
is just for this moment so you can stand
up and tell this new group guys you know
what we're making some changes anyways
in economic policy
I think it's time to soften our approach
about being against religion to the
contrary maybe we need to draw some
inspiration and some guidance from uh
from our tradition
so that's what the dev is telling him
with uh Steam and blessing
and you should report good news and
everything we said and you should have a
purm besaider I like that usually we say
you know happy poor but here's like you
know beside that what does it means
zeissomatis that means
like the Magilla says that the Jews won
the Jews won meaning
this should be a victory everything
you're doing should be a victory for for
real Yiddish kite
now
before I read this last part which
almost reads like a PS
because that I've already wished him a
happy poem or a porn besider I just want
to give you a little bit of context
um
I mentioned Miu yehudi earlier
at this point Miu yehudi was not
the huge hot button issue that it would
become later and I'll explain to you why
it wasn't yet
but how it was starting to cook up and
that's why the dev is referencing it
here in this letter
Ben Gurion
had a son
who
was hospitalized in a British military
hospital he was injured
while fighting and uh
he met an English nurse and they married
and
this became obviously an issue
not just for Ben Gurion as a private
individual but then as a
representative of the Jewish people
so uh long story short
at the end of 1958
Ben-Gurion started writing letters
to Jewish leaders of all types and of
all backgrounds all over the world
um
asking how to define
who was a Jew
regarding the the law of return
regarding who is given
citizenship in the new state of Israel
and ben-gorian wrote 51 thinkers
of all levels of religious observance
and all different types of political
Persuasions
he received 46 responses
to his to his 51 letters
and of the 46 responses
38 of them including the response of the
Rabe told him unequivocally that Judaism
should be defined the way halacha has
defined it
for
centuries in Millennia
not to introduce any Innovation into the
definition of a Jew
so that's why I say it was a little bit
less controversial
of an issue in 1958 and 1959 because the
overwhelming response even from
non-religious
uh people was to
allow the religious definition of Jewish
identity to stand meaning only one who
was born from a Jewish mother or has a
halachic conversion
and that's why the issue sort of rested
so to speak relatively speaking uh after
that point it became much more
controversial again later okay but here
was the beginning of that contention
the Debbie's response actually
um was a month earlier
a month prior to this letter that of his
response to Ben Gordon is from
your tests so it's a month and five days
because this is other base so the
bengurion letter was adirshine
um
that's that's the the background
okay
so let's read this
a series
um
is kind of an idiomatic phrase
there are many
and some also
very unusual
among them some unusual
perusem commentaries Le megilisaster to
the biblical Book of Esther
okay there are many many many
commentaries to the biblical Book of
Esther
avoid
but they all say the same thing
regarding this regarding what
egg although homin said to annihilate
the Jews
and Mordechai wanted to do the exact
opposite save the Jews
but how many Mordechai agreed on one
thing
as well as in the entire generation
everyone agreed will a light cell shall
Suffic without any shade of doubt
who is a Jew
so the who is a Jew issue was starting
to become an issue as I mentioned
bengurion had just sent out
those 51 letters that ever had just
responded a month prior to this letter
to livner
and I should also tell you
that remember that episode we're going
to Chris mcgilla in a few hours
so
the next day
the day of Purim
there was a fabrangin
is I mean officially it's the day of
form but it's coming out of
it's the night coming out of the day of
porn Okay so we're talking about the
next day
that night
there was the devil's poor fabrengan
you remember a few letters ago we talked
about the Reba's famous poem for
bringing of tuftshin khai of Tosh
what was it nine hours
is that what it was yeah
so this is the next year
tests I don't think it went nine hours
it did not go nine hours
in that fabregan
it's actually the fourth Ciroc
of the performance test you could look
it up in Terrace
and many of you will recognize that
fourth Circa of Purim Tufts in your
tests gimmel
zacher
the actual sikha was originally said on
porm at this poor fabrangin but in it's
a section unto itself called uh Parsha
Zohar Parsha zachar is the special Torah
reading we read the Shabbos before poor
and it's about the obligation to destroy
a Malik
and the half Torah of that Shabbos
tells the story
of Shaw hamalak the first Jewish King
and how he had an opportunity in his day
to destroy a Malik completely to
eradicate them and
shmuelanavi prophet Samuel found out
that shawl uh came up with a clever idea
he said you know what I'm gonna leave
the king agag to survive
and I'll take him as my prisoner and uh
yeah so during the hours
that agog was a pow before shmuel
executed him which he did
he conceived
a
a son who became the progenitor of Haman
so the whole business with Homan was
because Shull didn't follow the rules
and as the haftura and its commentaries
explain Shaw wasn't trying to be
rebellious no not at all and he wasn't
even being lethargic in carrying out
lacks and carrying out his his uh orders
he actually had a reason
he he followed reason he followed reason
and he had a great argument why what he
was doing made a lot of sense and that
even adds their explanations while
could even be argued what he was doing
was a really cool thing but you know
what
that wasn't what he was told to do he
was given very explicit orders and he
didn't follow them
and so many many of you may be familiar
with that like I said it's
uh
and it's basically about the idea of
don't try to outsmart Hashem and even
when we have really smart ideas
um
we're not smarter than Infinite Wisdom
and we need to have Cabela's oil and
that means to submit to the Divine
Authority I want to mention also because
it's just something that I am passionate
about in that same sir which happens to
be one of my favorites actually he
explains that thinking is also a part of
Kabbalah soil he says because if you
think that you're going to just turn off
your brain and that way you'll have
cobola soil he says that that's that's
cheating you're not allowed to do that
because cabalis oil submission to the
the Divine Authority means to give
Hashem all of you not just your action
but your brain as well and to give
Hashem your brain means that you have to
be a thinking being you have to continue
thinking but you have to think in the
ways that are aligned with hashem's Will
so yeah it'll be easier to just become a
robot and never think again and then oh
I have Kabbalah soil that everybody says
that's not Kabbalah so cabalis oil is
not only when you do hashem's will but
you teach your brain you train your
brain that's why we're learning egress
guys that's why we're learning to have
this worldview when you train your brain
to think in alignment with the Holy
Torah that's true Kabbalah soil Kabbalah
soil has to be not just in a level of
action but also emotion and intellect
okay so that's that famous
at the end of that and this is not
included in the edited portion that's in
the series is highly edited never spent
a lot of time editing and re-editing the
transcripts of his fabrangians to make
it
acceptable to him in the format
this is a very different format than
just a transcript of a talk they each
have certain mileage there's a certain
ishmaq that you can really only get when
you read the original hanaka where you
see the interwoven conversations and how
the Deb is Flowing from one subject to
another subject and even commenting on
current events or commenting on things
that are happening right there in the
building at that moment and obviously
you don't get that liquidity is more of
the of the alumnus it's more of the
scholarship but here's what I want to
tell you if you go look up I told you
the fourth from Purim tough
you'll see that famous
there and it's very recognizable it's
very close the edited version is very
close to the transcript but then at the
end there's something that's not in
liquidity circus and that is the Debbie
says since it's poor I want to say a
poem Torah
poor Tita means a clever
witty
uh teaching that is more about the the
the
it's more about the humor than
necessarily scholarship but if it's a
true form title it also has to be the
point of it has to be true yeah
obviously it has to be something that's
uh that aligns with Torah and it's an
alliance with truth so the devil says I
want to say a Purim Theta
and the never says you know there was a
machlaikus in the time of Purim and this
is almost what the devil writes here to
live near
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but the way that episode is just
slightly different and uh
definitely a lot funnier it never sets
it up as a poor title and it is very
cute and there's recordings of it by the
way if uh maybe we'll post it on the
WhatsApp groups if people are
um
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from poemtation your test blender uh so
the devil says like this in the time of
Purim there was a machlaikus
um
it was Homan versus Mordechai
Harman said
that we gotta annihilate the juice
and Mordechai said no like we just said
earlier uh tonight
at
abdallah's tie in
my house
that now the Jews should have uh light
and joy and gladness and and Glory
so they they were at an impasse because
they wanted very different things for
the Jews however one thing that they did
not debate
was me who yahudi they had very
different plans for the
Destiny of the Jewish people
opposite plans but
they did not debate who the Jewish
people were and what the definition of a
Jew was
okay so that's tonight's letter and we
will see you Hashem tomorrow night