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A Lomdus Related to the Kiyor
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We mentioned recently in Chumash here
that
I recently got a hold of a safer it's
called Yikara D'Iraiha. It's five
volumes all Torah. It's a Likute, but
it's a little different than most
Likuten and it's very shot centric.
Either way,
this possuk right here in the safer
Yikara D'Iraiha, the brings from a going
of Tzi Rothberg shlita who
we mentioned recently in Chumash here
he asked a few beautiful ha'aros on this
possuk. The first ha'ara that he asked
was, the possuk says
the kanim
l'rachtza.
So wait, Tzi Rothberg, why does the
possuk have to say that the purpose of
the kiyor and the kan was l'rachtza? Of
course it's l'rachtza. The next possuk
says l'rachtza to aharon and his
children es yadayim v'es raglayim. So
obviously it's l'rachtza.
Meaning, if the reason the Torah is
saying the word l'rachtza is to tell me
the use of proceeds, right? What is the
purpose of the kiyor? Well, it says it
in the next possuk. That's l'rachtza to
aharon and his children es yadayim v'es
raglayim. So the freight that the shaila
of kiyor and kanim l'rachtza,
the l'rachtza aharon and his children es
yadayim v'es raglayim it seems to be
redundant. Meaning, aharon and his
children es yadayim v'es raglayim that's
the possuk that tells us what's going to
be
the purpose of the kiyor. So then why
does the Torah have to mention again, or
the first time, kiyor and kanim
l'rachtza? The second ha'ara that he
asked in shaat is that if you go back
and you look at all the other kaylim
of the Mishkan, when the Torah mentions
the
of the kaylim, right? The tzivui of the
asiya, it doesn't say who, what, when,
and where this kayli is supposed to be
used for. For example, v'asisa shulchan
atzei shittim amasa yim orkay.
tells me all about it. Then at the very
end
But when the Torah mentions the tzeva,
you go ahead and build the shulchan
The same is true by the menorah. The
Torah says
And
the Torah just goes on to describe how
exactly it's supposed to be with no
mention of what the purpose of the
menorah is. So Frank of Rothberg, that
if you look at every single one of the
kaylim of the Mishkan, it follows the
same thing. Make a shulchan, make a
menorah. I'm going to tell you later,
don't worry about it.
There's going to be plenty of time. If
you have a seder, you'll see it like 50
times. You'll know exactly what all
these kaylim are supposed to be used
for. But right now, that's not what
we're talking about.
I'm giving you the tzeva. I'm telling
you make a shulchan, make a menorah.
There's no reason to tell you right now.
Doesn't say make a menorah and then
light it and put oil inside of it. Make
a shulchan and put bread on it. And then
on Shabbos you should go and do Torah
from the final and then eat the
like a my opponent and split it between
the Mishnah
Torah should be seven Torah should be
that's going to to come about. But when
it comes to the kiyor
lirochtzo. Whoa. Why have to know the
rochtzo right now?
And even more
By none of the kaylim in positive that
introduces the sea void
for Mosha and Betzalel to go ahead and
build the Kaylee does the Torah tell you
what the purpose of the Kaylee is or
what should be placed inside the Kaylee?
There's one and only Kaylee where that's
true when it comes to the Kaylee. But
it's a Kaylee
that kind of Kaylee the rocks
that I sat to build a minute
to really three hours. Number one, why
does the Torah even have to say in this
positive that I sat to build a minute
that's the next positive the rocks that
I had to build a minute
additionally why in the positive of that
are we even talking about what the
function of the Kaylee is going to be?
It's going to be the rocks and why are
we talking about what you're supposed to
put inside of it but I sat to show my
mind by none of the Kaylee that were
mentioned do you find this? He said a
beautiful chat based on the Seforno and
the Seforno
is on this positive in the parsha of Ki
Sisa.
The Seforno says as follows but see the
Kaylee comes there a Kaylee like who's
going to my lamb shower Kaylee.
There's such a glaring observation that
everybody's made in their life at some
point either consciously or
subconsciously and that is where does
the Torah talk about the Kaylee? Which
parsha? It's in parsha of Ki Sisa and
then it's Ki Sisa and then it's Ki Sisa
like all the Kaylee are. The ika parsha
that talks about the tivulium of all the
Kaylee was in parsha of Truma. There's a
little bit of Shir Hamapasha of Tetzaveh
but the Kaylee gets pushed all the way
to parsha of Ki Sisa. Parsha of Ki Sisa
is the parsha of the ego what's
happening in parsha of Ki Sisa? But the
mitzvah to go ahead and make the Kaylee
says the Seforno very interesting it's
mentioned in parsha of Ki Sisa. Why
isn't it mentioned in Truma? Says the
Seforno again but see the Kaylee like
who's going to my lamb shower Kaylee. By
the way what's the Kaylee Kaylee what's
the other Kaylee that he's referring to?
So the other Kaylie that he's referring
to is the Mizbeach
Zahav. The Mizbeach that was inside the
Heichal, but that's for another day.
But, Gam zeh actually as relates to the
Keilim, "Who is K'lei Mayim Sha'ar
Keilim?" Keilim "Ho'iseh Hakavanah
B'eilah Hashchinah B'Mikdash." Says the
Sforno, because the tachlis of the
Keilim was not to be one of the Keilim
that was going to now facilitate that
sh'chinah B'Beis Hamikdash. Keilim "Ein
Hakavanah B'Oiseh Hakelim K'mov Olam
Ha'i."
Which was the intention of the other
Keilim, like I already explained
earlier. "Aval Ho'iseh Hakavanah" You
want to know what the purpose of the
Keilim was? "L'hachin
Es Hakohanim L'avodah Osam." One purpose
and one purpose only, and that is it's a
K'li that's machshir Es Hakohanim to be
able to go ahead and do the Avodah. Says
the Sforno, from the location, location,
location of where the Torah mentions the
Keilim in the Torah, you know everything
you have to know about the Keilim. The
Keilim is not a K'li like the other
Keilim. The tachlis of the Keilim was
"Not L'hashkin Sh'chinah B'Mikdash."
Which was the tachlis of the other
Keilim. If it were, it would have been
mentioned with all the Keilim that are
mentioned in Parshas Terumah. This K'li,
the "Kavanah was L'hachin Es Hakohanim
L'avodah Osam." Let's just explain this
a little bit better. The Eibishter said,
"For us we Mikdash V'shachanti
B'soicham." The Eibishter was mechadesh
the idea of Sh'chinah B'Tachtonim. Above
my pay grade, income, or co-signor. And
the Eibishter said if you want my
Sh'chinah to reside with you, "B'oifen
T'midi," you're going to have to build
me a house. And that house is going to
have to have certain Keilim inside of
it. There has to be a Shulchan, there
has to be a Menorah, there has to be a
Mizbeach. Right? It has to have a
tzurah. What does a house look like?
Okay, the Eibishter's house also has to
have a tzurah of a house, a beautiful
house. And that is what is necessary in
order to have Sh'chinah B'Tachtonim, in
order for there to be a Mishkan. Says
the Sforno, the Keilim of the Beis
Hamikdash, if you think about it, had a
dual purpose.
They obviously were part and parcel of
that avodah that was done in the Beis
Hamikdash. But even before that, these
are the keilim, the amenities of Akodesh
Baruchu's house. This is the way Akodesh
Baruchu's the architect of his house
that I want my house to look. These are
the things that are needed for a house.
I need this, I need that, and I need the
other thing. Zoch the Sforno, all those
keilim that were part of the tziuras
habayis of Akodesh Baruchu that are
me'akev in terms of being able to have a
bayis, a bayis where the Eibishter will
be able to be mashri Shchinah say, those
are the keilim that are mentioned in
Parshas Terumah. They're in the parsha
of "v'asu mikdash v'shachanti b'socham."
Cuz they're me'akev in the hefts of
mikdash. They're me'akev in the tziuras
of mikdash. They're me'akev in what
needs in order to facilitate the
Shchinah b'tachtonim. The kiyor, says
the Sforno, is not that. The kiyor hoisa
kavana l'hachin es hakiyur l'avodasom.
Period. End of story. That's the whole
tachlis of it. And being that that's the
whole tachlis of it, so it's for that
reason, says the Sforno, it's not
mentioned in Parshas Terumah. There's no
shiyachus to Parshas Terumah. This is
more like the bigdei kehunah. Right?
This is something that's me'akev. A
kohen can't do the avodah without the
begadim. It's a machsir begadim. He
can't do the avodah without the kiyor
because then he is someone that doesn't
have richutz yadayim v'raglayim. But
being that it's fundamentally different
than the other keilim, it's not part of
"v'asu mikdash v'shachanti b'socham."
Says the Sforno, that's why it's not
mentioned in the parsha of "v'asu
mikdash v'shachanti b'socham." It's for
that reason it's mentioned in Parshas Ki
Sisa. It's why it's not mentioned in
Parshas Terumah. Says the Sforno, see
Rotberg. That will feed this Sforno yesh
l'eimar half l've fellah. That's the
deyak. The deyak over here is that as it
relates to the other keilim, v'asisah
shulchan, v'asisah menorah, the shulchan
and the menorah have a tachlis without
the avodah. They're the keilim of the
mikdash. "V'asu mikdash and you should
also make it certain Caleb. And the
Caleb has to be there because it's
what's necessary in order to facilitate
the Shira. Now grab it those Caleb are
going to have also another purpose. A
purpose in that they'll be a mocking to
do a void with those Caleb. That's fine.
We'll get to that. That's perfectly
you're right. Like a map on him on the
Shulchan and then of course by the way
there is you're going to light them in
the air etc. etc. But being that they
have a taskless the gift of Isaac is not
for that reason. It's for that reason
that they're mentioned just as though
they are they're mentioned in the
bottom. But as it relates to the cure
the whole purpose of the cure is what
it's being used for cuz it's not part of
the furniture of the base of the big
dodge. So what's its taskless? Its
taskless is season the
the kind of
the rock so it's not punk that's what
it's being used for. That's the only
thing that it's here for. Its sole
existence is rock so there is no cure
without a rock so. There's no cure
without the
show my mind. That's why when the
introduces the
cure and mentions the rock so when the
it introduces the cure and mentions the
show my mind who it's half a
and then he was moist of today. He said
that you see we just went to the the
said that the cure itself was really not
even
right any of this would be okay. You're
any
of this
any of this is good the parents is
because the cure is not part of the
furniture of the base of the it's not
necessary for the but that's
it's just here to facilitate. Okay so
make a cure. You want to make something
else?
You have a right to go ahead and make
something else. And then he said one
more
he said it was there you use the
more than
you said with this you can answer
question. So what's this question from
so it's in the stencils
It's the Sugis we're learning right now,
on Dof Chof Amud Aleph. The Sugis asked
the Kasha that the Gemara had said, "Af
who also much near the Kiyor?" Right? He
made a a much near the Kiyor, this whole
contraption, so that every night the
Kiyor was able to go underground. So,
like this the Mayim wouldn't become
possible in a freak the Brisker Rav and
he applied Sholchi. Said the Brisker
Rav, "I don't understand. The Kiyor was
part of the Beis Hamikdash. That means
there's something called Tavnis
Hamikdash. The Mikdash has to have a
Kiyor. If the Kiyor is underground, then
the Kiyor it's not there. And if it's
not there, then freak the Brisker Rav at
night, every single night they they take
the Kiyor and they put it on the ground.
Well, right now it's Chosul from the
Tzurah Hamikdash. If it's Chosul from
the Tzurah Hamikdash, then the Mikdash
is Posul. Meaning there's a certain
Tzurah that HaShem wants this Mikdash,
his Bayis, to look a certain way. If he
wants it to look a certain way, how
would they have to It's very nice. You
Fardined an issue. You were able to take
care of the Psulin of the Mayim. But the
problem is you opened up a whole 'nother
can of issues. Because now all of a
sudden the Mikdash is Chosul in one of
the Keilim. And if it's Chosul in one of
the Keilim, why should that not be a
problem? Now, the truth is we're not
going to go into this now, but we when
we learn Maseches Yoma we said over
Torah from Reb Chaim. That Reb Chaim
Brisker said that we know according to
one man the Aron
was Nigaz from Kodesh. Right? There was
no Aron during the second Beis
Hamikdash, which is something we need to
talk about. And there's a whole Shaila
what happened to it. But according to
one man the Aron what happened to the
Aron? It was hidden. Where was it
hidden? It was hidden in the Bim Kodesh.
It's Mamesh in the Kodesh Hakodashim.
Reb Chaim said that it's not Punk that
it was hidden Bim Kodesh. He said about
the Etzim of the Mikdash top of an Aron.
He said it was not sorry for the Etzim
that were done on Yom Kippur. And as
long as it was Bim Kodesh Nigaz, so Kum
Tois the Mikdash has the Aron. Could be
this is a little bit of a Tzushtel. This
Brisker Rav Sholchi and maybe you can be
Meiyashuv a little bit. We could still
see that Maran Hagrach. This is all in
Stenslach. But the bottom line is that
said Reb Shmuel Rotberg he has read the
Pidus Forus Haflo of a fellow. Because
the Kiyor Lehedya is not one of the
Keilim of the Mikdash. It's not
something that's Ma'aked in the Mishkan.
The whole purpose of the Kiyor is
the
That's the whole purpose. The whole
purpose is to be
It's actually not part of the furniture
of the Mikdash. And if that's the case,
if it ends up on the ground during the
night, so it's actually not at all from
the Mishkan. And if that's the case,
there's
not going to be a a problem at all. But
just wrap this up.
So, let's see
he's using the to answer the
every night they would put the Kiyor on
the ground. What do you mean the Mishkan
the Mikdash is missing a Kiyor now? So,
if it's missing a Kiyor, how is that
okay? He says no because the Kiyor is
different than the and the and the
It's it's not active in the Mishkan. And
as a result, just there for a purpose.
Right now, we don't need this purpose.
As a result, there's not going to be an
issue. Why did the say that? So, I think
it's because really this is and the is
of of a
right? But it's the first The in the
beginning of base
It's
Incidentally, if you want to go through
just really
at the still the very very beginning.
Right, we're still within So,
if you want to go through it, just read
the in the beginning of base chapter and
verse chapter and verse. It's so clear.
It's so systematic.
It's written like only the was able to
write. But either way, this is in
Says the
the base of Mikdash
The Mikdash had to have seven
and
the
That's
That's number one. That's
two.
The Kiyor is three. The
is four. The
is five. The is six. this shulchan is
seven. I'll go by what the Rambam says,
the mikdash had it been made up of seven
kaylim. There's a certain sura, there's
a tafnes of mikdash. And when the Rambam
lists out the tafnes of mikdash, he says
seven kaylim, two of them are the kiyor,
kiyor and kano. It's not like this
sforno, it's not like this raid. Kiyor
and menorah agrees with coming from this
Rambam, and that's why menorah agrees
with bliy tzarich.