A DAVAR SHOLEIM (SOMETHING WHOLE) IN HALACHA - BROCHOS, MITZVOS, ISSUR VeHETER - Rabbi Scheiner

In tonight's shaya will speak about the milo of shalim the beginning of the simmon that we're learning now the says that one should make a hami on a shim sai a shimm as opposed to not shulling meaning to say we spoke about this in a previous year that really when you cut it so like gives you your the but if you're going to cut it all the way then it's not a shim. So cut it in a way that you can make a on a shim. Also if you have two one is a shalom and one's not a shim. We should make on the shim the of even though like we're learning now speaking about of course as it's also you're making a braha on a peri you can make a braha on a whole apple or a half apple make The po say it's not only a pre as we'll see soon that has a real den shalim even a barrier in certain cases but something that's whole for an example rebel yash says make a bra on a schnitle that's whole maybe for us to relate a little more a hot dog something that's a These are making it's brought in the name of Kfki that there are some things that it's not the der to eat as a shale. There is no D to make a bra when it's a shalom. For an example, one of the examples is a melon. You have you want to have cantaloupe. The cantaloupe is whole. There is no den that you should make a on a whole cantaloupe and then start cutting it up. It's served in pieces and ma you don't there's no denim over there. >> What say? >> Oh. Oh, very good. Let me get to it in a second. Very good. Very good. But the idea is something that's not other P can bring another example m chocolate bar you could taka eat the whole chocolate bar you could eat five of them but it's not served it's not served as a whole bar each piece you eat each piece I guess to bring out the concept there are of course we could spend a long time going through all the food but kitser just understand the concept cake for an example there certain cakes that are served whole and the po speak about it that round cake some call it a ta a round cake of course once you take a piece it's not a shim but rather before cutting a piece off if you can make a sh on a shim these are my love of making a bro on a shim mid let's say cake sponge cake chocolate cake so over there it's served on a tray for most of the times it's served sliced cake so over there there's No denial. There's no den before you slice up the cake in the pan that you should first make a mus on the whole pan and then starting cutting off a piece. There's no denim over there. But very good about bread. That's not interesting. Shila. Where's the shila? L Marshall in it's common. You have the loaves of bread that are you could you could put them in the machine and they the machine slices it or you could but then you have a whole is it served it's eaten as a whole loaf or the is whatever you cut off a piece and you take the piece to the table that's because it wasn't sliced. So if it's if that's how you eat it that you have a loaf of bread and then you cut off a piece then yes you should make a shim >> by aim for an example at least you know you make a on the so then you should make before you do that that cutting in the to make a >> not how you eat how you serve it's how it's served not how right >> I don't know if the right word is the way so it's it's present entered meaning to say is I guess served you don't put out on the table. Yeah. >> Most people eat >> no one eats even a thing. You don't have to eat it bite into the whole thing. But if it's served as an a whole slice of bread, >> what say >> a whole slice of bread or a bagel? >> Oh, so really that's really what we said before in some of the cases. Slice of bread is the same. A big part of the sh is going to be 10 of to expand in every point. We're going to go through hopefully a couple of different in. But you're right. Is there a milo when you have a slice of bread to have? Is that considered a scholum also say a rice cake rather? You're making a maziness on a rice cake. Even if you're going to break off a piece, you're not biting into the whole rice cake. It's a schol. I'm not sure. A slice of bread. I'm wondering because I slice of bread. It's sliced off. It's a shame. You have a piece of cake and you break off a piece. So then it's it's a piece of cake regardless. It's interesting shil about it just for to think about. So we said over here that let's say a melon like pointed out the way it's served it's served in pieces and there is no dim. You make a on the melon. What happens if you're making a hadama and you have either a piece of melon or arbus and you're going to eat them both. So they're both we're going to get soon to gadmus but just in the concept wonder I'm wondering if the issa the arbus or anything else that you're going to eat is a shale so me no den of shalem on melon it could come caught up but lisa the other vegetable or whatever you're eating is a rail Look, Even though we said up until now that these to make a bra on a like beginning by pass we spoke about other pya the pkim speak about fruit that you're going to cut off a piece. Should you cut off the piece before? The rabb says you should cut off the piece before because if not it's a heaps. Meaning to say the he overrides rather than making a shim for an example an apple. If you're going to bite into the apple, so of course make a before so you have a schol. But if you're gonna cut off a slice this way and that way it's a heftick and rather cut off the slice make it's not on a it's a others in the say that no just like we see by bread by bread you tak but you cut only up until that if you're going to pick up the bread it's not going to fall apart but that we want the mile by also you should cut you shouldn't cut you should make and then afterwards that the mil of shim overrides the milah the the the maybe as they say it's not a he you're making a before you should Very important to note this is if you should make a on a whole fruit and oversee say and oversee heaps or maybe not you should for everybody agrees that if you need to check the fruit for tailon for an example you have some of the nuts that you have to open it up to see if these talom and if there's talom you can't eat it over there everybody agrees that you have to open it up and make sure there's no talom because it's tako of but the milo of shalim doesn't override being eating tails these are shil but if it comes to a fruit that you have to check inside and by opening up the fruit you're gonna make it that it's no longer a shame That's clear that you you have to do it if you're checking for even though these are if to be or rather go with the mile of it's brought in the name of the and brought mafur later in the that says that if you tak out that slice of the apple you should put it back in. And by putting it back in into that hole, it's up until now we said is a mile of making a but is also a but and you cut out that piece of apple when now you want to make a but you want a you put that piece in and it looks like a shim. That's good. On the note of it is brought in the name of Alman that a slice of bread we had a shila before if there's a mile of a slice of bread before breaking into the slice before taking it ap heart. But if you put a slice of bread through a toaster says that that doesn't help by burning it, that that doesn't make it a shalom. Even though we know that if you have a matzah that's cracked a little bit, the ptas and the piskim, you could burn that part and it makes it a shalim. here. This bread, this bread that you have that's not a shalom and you want to make it a shim by putting it through the toaster, it's not a shim. It doesn't say a lot of words, but is that it's not near. You could see it even after it went through the toaster that it's a slice of bread. It's not a whole roll. So at Khan we spoke about the miler of these aer to make a braha on something that's whole and there's a miler to make the brah on something's whole over something that's not whole. If you're gonna eat both and you have a choice what to eat, you should take the shim, the whole bread, the miler of overrides the miler of meaning to say is a den also brought in the gamarra that if you're sitting down to eat two things the same braha an apple and an orange you're going to make eights. So which one is there any preference which one to eat the to make the the apple or the orange is mur brought also in to make a on the what you like better for an example they eating both you have regular and sourdough the one you like better that's what you should make the bra on st on the note of the says that the has to be a of all the time. Not if you're just in the mood today of not sourdough that you don't go means something that in general you like better whatever you like better in general that's so these are my you're coming and you're going to make a bra now on you're eating an apple and an orange which what which one should you make a you're making a bra on which one should you make the bra on the one that you like better. Oh, what happens? You have a whole regular kala and a half a sour dough and you want to have of both, but you like the sour dough better. It's more you like the sour dough. Which one should you make a bro on? So brings in a ratio that overrides whether if it's whether if you have a whole orange and a half apple, you like the apple better. Make a on the over the when you're eating both. So in Kadmus if we're talking about Kadeus of course in a shim comes before a nonsholim a shim also comes before of something that you like better. However, when it comes to Shiva that Shiva Samum, you're making eights and you have a grape and you have an apple. Dina the Gomorrah says that the her should be on the grape. The garra also says that there's a order in the shiv there's a order the order of the pkum asked where do you see from the order of the toyra thera had to list all how do you know who said that these are order these are order so that says based off these another erit these two erits in the pk We're not going to go into it but whatever of the shiv that's closer to the erits comes first. So that says it's the come say that these on the others say this itself that the Tory put order everything that says in the Torah is exactly the way it says the Tory and even though you can ask if the Tyra could have wrote it a different way also whatever way you write it you're going to have a Shila if the Tory wrote it this way it's clear that this is the order. So today tonight's sh is not a focus in of that's a long shar for itself. We're focusing on scholar of shaleim of a whole fruit, a whole a whole piece of chicken is means rather make a shim something's whole over something that you like. However, when it comes to Shiva, you have a whole orange and you have a half a grape. The is that the overrides a whole orange is even though you like the apple better. But when it comes to Shiva over there, the Shiva is shiv is to a whole fruit. And the same is also in the seder of the fruits. The saste you have a seder uh gean is before rem. A grape comes before a pomegranate. Even if the grape is a half a grape and the rem is whole and the sed also the shiv and the shiv is all it's all I have a neighbor of mine that's a a rebby I think a seventh sixth or seventh grade rebby so he said that he he teaches is he teaches the the boys why for everybody to remember to make to make it's avoid but if you you know that these and as we're learning now even we're just focusing on a whole what comes before and after so you have to stop for a minute before you want to eat something wait a Second, I want to eat this and this. Which braha comes first? So automatically you remember you're making a braha. Needless to say that all that we're speaking about if Shalim comes before Shalim goes after that's of course all when we're speaking about the same you have you have a half a grape you have a whole orange a half a apple all on the same bra But if we're talking about different brahas, of course these the sedas doesn't get changed. Just a a brief few more nudis in shale. We spoke about and we said that these are my of to make a bra on a whole on a whole fruit. He said sometimes shim comes first sometimes notic we spoke about we spoke about you should make a mus on something that's whole. What happens if you make a on something that's whole? But not even the nud is not the braha really you ate something that's whole you ate a grape a whole brings the says that even if you don't have the she a whole py they didn't bury a whole py and you make a bra you eat a grape pious even you eat a rem seed eat you make a anything that's a shim that's a barrier says that's the shi and is not sure if the bavi argues is and is also misupic and therefore one should be careful if he's only going to eat one grape not to eat a grape that shaw him like the You should cut the grape in half. If you can only eat one grape, cut the grape in half. They say that not only you don't have to da cut the grape in half and eat each piece separately to be considered not a shame of a a sh of if you have a grape you bite into the grape you eat half the grape and then afterwards you eat the other half of the grape that also is considered not eating a shulling. Even though for a we're saying >> barrier barrier >> 100% barrier. Yeah. But you need very good you need the barrier should be a shim. You find this that a barrier is not bottle but like says that the barrier has to be a scholic a barrier but the barrier has to be a schol. If it's missing even a little bit it's not a shim. It's even even though it's a barrier it still needs to be shin the shila. It's not a sh the mash says clearly if somebody has mor that's less than a kazas but it's a sh it's a full it's a berry it's a full it's a full mo says you're not yita says the reason why you're not y is because you need to count the roots also and then the roots is not a of it it makes it a barrier but it's not you're says that even though you would make a on a barrier less than the that's because it has a for but the kaz for mor that you don't have barrier doesn't accomplish the you don't have even though it's a barrier you don't make a On the note of says that the only reason you need a kaz is for the bra. If you have a shol, you'll be able to make a bra. And one last nuda in the in of mitzvah of using a schol in that we just had now pes and it's brought the maril brings the how we made the air of it says The gam shing is right.