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A Blueprint for Persecution By Rabbi Shmuel Goldin
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good to be back I trust that uh you
learned well in my absence I'm going to
be sitting I usually teach standing um
I've been falling and as you can see I I
fell again and um we're trying to figure
out why so uh I have to be very careful
okay uh our Shear today is going to be
somewhat sobering because as you see
from the title a blueprint for
persecution we're once again going to
see something that we've seen often
before and that is that the stories The
Familiar stories in the
Torah are very very relevant and not
only relevant that what happens to us in
our day mirrors in many ways what
happened so many thousands of years
ago all right we're going to begin if
you take a look at the beginning of the
of the shear setting the stage the
Israelites confront EX
this is setting the stage for the
persecution that's about to come from
MIT and let's take a look at our
involvement in that as
well the second PUK um well the whole
the whole
paragraph This is y
speaking and he asks you what
your what your job what your uh what you
do what is it that you that you what is
your
business I want you to answer him
carefully I want you to say that you are
breeders or Watchers of shepherds
Shepherds or mck or that you are cattle
hers from When We Were Young until now
and it's rooted in the family this is
what we
do so that you will be living in ER Goen
because the Egyptians hate Shepherds and
they're going to allow you to live in a
separate place now let's understand who
is speaking here this is Yos the
Cosmopolitan Jew the one who has
succeeded more than anyone else in
living in an outside world and what and
succeeding and rising to the top and yet
what does what does yose do he
orchestrates the first ghetto he
basically says I want you to be a part I
I I know the I know the dangers I was
able to succeed but there's no guarantee
you will succeed I want you to live
separately I want you to maintain your
traditions and and and then you will be
safe do the Israelites do that let's
take a look at the next line vom Al Paro
these are yosef's brothers speaking I
can't sit these are yose's brothers
speaking and yose's brothers say to
par we have come to what dwell in the
land now let's remember we there are two
different ways to talk the Torah talks
about living in a particular place
generally what's the difference between
the
two one is temporary and one is
permanent right lore comes from the word
g we're we're coming as we're we're not
comfortable here we're strangers we're
not settling loet means to to to live to
set yourself up in the particular place
now now look at what the brothers of
yoseph
say we have come to dwell in the land
because there's no place for our sheep
to to to graze where we
are because of the famine so we we've
come down here to
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dwell and now let us
settle this may be a Freudian slip
centuries before
Freud we want to
not dwell what do we want we want to
live we want to settle in arid oan and
that's exactly now take a look at the
next next
paragraph the Israelites lived in the
land of Egypt
in the land of
Goen they held on to it they acquired it
completely they that's to hold on to and
they multiplied Vu they grew and and
increased in in a wonderful way now what
what words are extra in that
line what would you say ER mitzraim
right why doesn't the Torah say
which we know it's
in so what is the Torah telling us that
they settled in the MIT that they felt
that they were part of mitzraim they did
not maintain their
separateness and not only
that they settled they this is where
we're going to stay this is this is our
home now uh yeah nice Aliah is a
wonderful idea but we like it here in ER
we want to stay in ER
MIT go on to the next book of the Torah
and take a look
in multiplied increased became stronger
and stronger and they land was filled
with them it doesn't say the Eric Goan
was filled with them right it says the
land was filled with them and they are
starting to move and the medish says
what what does this
mean they have the theaters became
filled with them the the the bathouses
became filled with them
basically they were exceedingly Mighty
and the circuses they they began to be
part of
they began to be part of
mitan and assimilate to assimilate is
correct and take a look now they're
becoming part they're becoming part now
take a look now at the hame D this
is hudlin
then and he is building on the text in
an amazing way what does he say look at
the underlined sections B made to L Bar
he
says so comes to teach us they did not
stay in
ER look at the the last line every open
space they they would take they they
looking for the real
estate they looking for place to buy to
acquire and they're moving out into
MIT I'm skipping to the next underlined
section hus how he makes a turn that is
that is fascinating and that you and I
know to be true the more we try to be
like them the more what they hate us the
more they push away and he says this
this spreading out the erit MIM was not
just not just is problematic because it
we're assimilating into Egyptian culture
but it's problematic
because
all hatred from Egypt and the edicts of
the king are happening because they are
trying to assimilate into into
Egyptian
culture look at the
next they they moved away from the
desire or the the plan of of Jacob of
yov and yose they they broke out of M of
erit Goen and now look at the last line
he
this is the reason this is the the the
the Catalyst that causes them to work
against us we
feel because we don't want to live as
strangers we don't want to maintain our
separateness and when we break out it
causes problems it gets worse and that's
set so that's what we're doing to set
the stage for persecution what we're
doing to set the stage persecution is
what is we're trying to be like them
moving into the circuses moving into the
theaters breaking out of Goen filling
every empty space and it doesn't work
it's not good for
us that's well that's correct whe all
right to repeat because the camera's on
me whether or not they assimilate they
assimilate we they hate us correct but
their hatred
increases when we try to break out their
hatred increases says the NIV when we
try to be like them if we are proud of
what we are and we maintain our
Traditions then they will hate us but a
bit less a bit less all right now
setting the stage now let's take a look
at the next setting the stage right
we're setting the stage through the
actions of Ben Israel of the Israelites
then the Torah tells us
in what else sets the stage a new king
arises a new parro arises shal yose who
didn't know Joseph and and doesn't feel
that he owes anything to Joseph even
though the last king loved Joseph and
made made him particularly powerful
Along Comes the gamarra
however and it brings down a mes a
dispute between two famous rabbis RAV
and schmuel who were ma major figures in
the tulic era and are always very often
arguing with each other they're
contemporaries they're colleagues and
they often have varing views
karos
m one of the rabbis said and it doesn't
tell us what who said
what that King was actually a new
king the other one said no it's the same
King he just flipped changed his mind
became better for him to hate the Jews
than to love the Jews now why does why
does the to would bring that why are the
rabbis arguing about this it says
clearly in the text M
why don't they accept the of the text so
clearly what kazal are telling us is
that both of these things happen and
will happen right your friends quickly
will become your enemies when it suits
them be careful don't assume just yes
there will also be a m there will also
be a new president and a new this and a
new that but there will also be those
who you thought were your friends and
who were your friends for a particular
period of time can easily become your
enemies okay so that all that has set
the stage our breaking out increases the
hatred and a new king or the king who is
changing flipping on a turning on a dime
changing his changing his particular
um love of the Jews to
hatred now we turn to to the actual
blueprint itself all right now what
happens
here so I we have the whole section the
blueprint in front of us on page number
three but we're going to dissect it Case
by case and I'll
repeat that are critical for us so you
just have that that's the blueprint and
now we turn to the
ramb what are the goals what are parro
and his henchmen and trying to do what
is their
desire says the the
ran parro and his yat and his advisers
and his wise men could not immediately
destroy the rise up against the Jewish
people and kill them couldn't be done
you had to to to do it slowly it had to
be step by step even from the Egyptian
perspective from the Egyptian
perspective he could not rise up and say
okay the Jews are our Ines let's kill
them the mstre wouldn't allow it the
Jews came the Israelites came and again
they're not Jews yet Jews are from
Yehuda right um they're not not Jews yet
they're Israelites the same will be
acquired in the same its
vot let us be wise to them let's go step
by step let's make them think we're
we're we're we're we're doing certain
things but we're not really going to the
full extent and then we will be able say
the Yim our nation will be
prepared to hit
them then after we go step by step then
the MIT will will agree with us and
we'll will be able to do what's
necessary so what's the first step turn
to the next
page he says to his Nation behold the
Israelites the children of Israel
are greater in number and stronger than
we
are let's go and we had this just a
moment ago pen lest he lest they become
even
War if there is a battle against an
enemy what they're going to do is
they're going to be a third column
they're going to join the
enemy B inits and there are various
interpretations of that last phrase they
will by force leave us or what what what
go up from the land means but they're
going to become on they're going to
they're going to take advantage of our
good
hospitality and they are going to allow
they are going to allow themselves to
become part of the enemy now let me ask
you a
question is it possible that Israel
were that that the Israelites were
greater in number and stronger than the
great Egyptian
Empire so what's he
doing propaganda that's the first step
that's the first step you have to set
the stage you have to have textbooks
that demean the Jews right you have to
have uh the the Nazis who say outright
lies and say that if you say the LIE
often enough and strong enough what
people will believe it and that's what's
happening now in our world is it not
right the genocide genocide right over
and over and over again and all these
different places and all these different
universities and all these different
schools that's setting the stage you've
got to start with propaganda
and and what about and what are we going
to do we're they are third column Among
Us right they are they are they they are
people that will rise against us when
when we allow them to so let's let's
plan to to take care of that potential
Danger
as P Pon V
ranes he placed they placed upon them
specific tax
collectors and not only Tax Collectors
but officers to watch them work and be
with them in their
work V and they built AR canot they
built certain cities it says the uh
translation here says storage cities
there are those who say that they are
cities that were with suan that that
actually you couldn't build them they
fell down all the time you just kept
trying to build them and trying to build
them right with what with the tools and
the and the material that's given to you
one
second and what what is what is parro
doing here he's isolating the Jews there
are special people with the Jewish
problem is problem is real and we have
to appoint special task Masters
different task Masters different people
different people to take care of them
because they are they are they are
different they're not quite like us and
we need to isolate them and put them to
work and give them labor and make sure
that they are benefiting us but at the
same time we're isolating them hand
up they got slaves already at this stage
not yet not
yet yeah they are they are becoming they
are becoming slaves they're they're
they're but the full persecution let's
understand what the ramban said is that
parro's game plan is not just to make
the Israelites
slaves it is
what he wants from the start is to kill
them and these are the steps that he
takes in order to get to that point so
we're isolating the Jews Nazi Germany
isolating ghettos places right forced
forced
labor
next and MIM worked Ben is and here
they're becoming slaves
be what does
mean so the rabbi so the the P shot of
the word is hard backbreaking
backbreaking labor however there are
other interpretations that are medik
which see in this word something
else one is
per soft right right what what were we
gonna they said the medra says what what
happened parro went out himself into the
field and said well we're not we're not
working you alone come work with me
right do with me we're settling you in
the East right we're not we're not
and we will get them get the Israelites
themselves to buy into what's happening
and not
revolt and in addition to
that they embitter their lives and again
I keep harking back just in my mind to
Nazi Germany and to the to the to the
concentration camps and to the work and
to the labor and what what what that
they made them do and the stories of you
take you know you you're in the field
and you take the stones from one corner
of the field and you take a to the other
and then put them back right work that
makes no difference
but more than
that be also
means humiliating
work work that the rabbis say they
gave this is not politic this is not
polit politically correct but they gave
man's work to women and women's work to
men what what you want to do is you want
to humiliate them you want the world to
see them humili you want them to see
themselves humiliated and you want the
what the Mitre to see them humiliated
take a toothbrush and clean the the
street right do these things I'm I'm
turning them into the other I'm turning
them into the other step by step and not
only the other but the
other right in other words they're
they're low they're not human they're
they're different than us
Etc so next so humiliating work
backbreaking work isolation propaganda
first isolation next humiliating work
next what's the next
stage
um at this point
parro turns to the Egypt Hebrew
midwives right the um two different two
different midwives shifra and Pua the
rabbis suggest that it's really Miram
and Y that it's moshe's sister and
moshe's mother I I've always found it
interesting that for example I have a
daughter-in-law named sh I know nobody
named Pua I feel bad for
her is it an Israeli name okay okay so
they so good I'm glad because pu
deserves pu deserves her place in the
what really pu and
Ison
okay all right okay I'm I'm glad to I'm
glad to hear it because uh I was I was
concerned for
yeah
yes that it could it's it could be it
could be that they were Egyptian
midwives that dealt with the Hebrews or
that they were rwise from but but the
pat seems to be that they are themselves
Hebrews right and he turns to them he
says look on the birth stool and Ben
what I want you to do is I want you to
look ahead look at the birthing stool
see what's what's happening and if it is
a male
child kill it or don't let it be born or
figure out what to do and if it's a
female child it's okay let let them let
her live because we'll use the females
right for what we want to use them for
now let me ask you a
question why is he starting this
way saw that right okay all right so
that's the medic approach which is that
he saw through a astrology that the
savior of the Jewish of the Israelites
was about to be born he didn't know
whether the person would be Hebrew or
Egyptian and therefore he's he's and
we'll we'll we'll talk about that a
little bit later even in a stronger way
but I'm
sorry all right the rabbis say that the
midwives were able right before birth to
determine the the sex of the child
that's what Al N
means so what par was starting
with is
potentially not genocide not murder
right it's
abortion right what I'm I'm starting in
an area that is morally
complex I want to bring the why why
would I want to bring a male Hebrew
child into this world look at look at
what's happening to them so just don't
let them be born take care of them
before birth if you can kill them how
did Hitler begin who were the first per
people that he
killed the handicapped the right the
people right that's you begin with that
you begin with mercy killing right that
I don't it's you're not really murdering
the child you're just aborting the child
you're not really um you're not really
doing something negative you're doing
something positive because this child
will have a a miserable life so we're
taking care of
things right and it's also pretty secret
as well correct all right so but so we
see that that that you're beginning step
by
step the bid wives by the way what what
they don't listen to parro and parro
then says okay we've got to go to the
next step
all right now we're now we're getting
down to what we what we want to do every
male child throw that child into the
river we're we're out in the open now
right and notice that parro does not say
this to his
army he says this
in other words he's enlisting all the
Egyptians to search out to find Jewish
babies to make sure that they kill and
to be involved in this genocide this
this by the way is genocide all right uh
and to ensure that no Jewish male
children are born you I'm going to take
the entire population of misim I'm going
to put them as
the individuals will take care of this
they'll be it's a problem it's it's not
the soldiers it's
everybody I'll get to that I'll get to
that I'll get to that okay all right
okay so what what we're doing is we're
enlisting the entire population and
bringing them into so that nobody can be
against us everybody's doing this and
when you turn to to the world
it's the whole Egyptian population is
taking care of this now what are the
results aside from aside from the major
result which is enabling parro to get to
that stage and enabling him to enslave
the Israelites totally what what
results how do the Israelites end up and
how do the Egyptians end up so take a
look at
the the bottom section of page
five every male son that is born you
shall cast into the river what's
missing right it doesn't say every
Hebrew child it says every male child
I'll get you in a minute and
okay we're at the point where we we need
that okay um
so what what's missing is it doesn't say
every Hebrew child it says every male
child which leavs the rabbis to say that
again what you said about the
astrological um prediction that a male
child would potentially be a Savior and
he doesn't know if it's Egyptian doesn't
know if it's Hebrew and therefore he's
going to tell them to kill all of the
male children now you say to yourself
wow hold on a minute is that possible
would the Egyptians really be willing
to sacrifice their own children well
what happens in our world what about the
suicide bombers who the mothers say were
wonderful and were heroic what about
theas using children as as Shields
right it's happening it's happening but
the the most telling is the families of
the terrorists who are basically saying
they're Heroes they're go to heaven so
what's happen then is happening now all
right and I see a number of hands up yes
it occs to me that it's very selfing
destroy his own people is what it's not
going to be continual it's it's not the
the astrological period is the baby is
only have to do it for now for a period
of time
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yes that's an excellent question I don't
know all right that but I'll I'll
research it and probably try to get you
an answer question was question was how
long does it take from propaganda to
genocide how long did it take this
process take and uh I'm not sure I'm not
sure it had to take some time it had to
take some time
yes it's a good point very good point
the reading that says that that um the
Egyptians were throw putting their own
children into the Nile as well is
contradicted by the fact that parro's
daughter upon seeing a child in the
river immediately says that's a Hebrew
child so it may be it may be that it's
after that period where the Egyptians
were doing it or it may be that she had
another way of seeing
or all right maybe that the Egyptians
didn't didn't listen to parro all right
and it may be that that we're reading
into the text uh something that really
isn't right I don't know that's that's
Kish study allows you to see layer upon
layer and sometimes even conflicting
positions but you learn from each layer
and the possibility that the Egyptians
would do this is a real possibility and
that's something that we learn in our
own
day does he
wasn't
saw
brother
interesting that's very interesting
that's very interesting okay so in other
words I'll repeat that I'll repeat it
she she says that the balim suggests
based upon based upon the the the the
gatria whatever that that the
Nar and I would I would to support this
state this you don't call the baby AAR
you call Anar is a lad she heard the lad
crying that doesn't refer sayal to mosha
in the in the Cradle in the uh in the
the Box in River it refers to Aaron
haken crying for his brother and and
then she knew that it was a Hebrew child
so it's a lovely thought very nice very
nice thought and as you said when she
heard one Jew crying for another that's
when when
she
what yeah naron would also not be called
a Nar but he's more more of a n he's
only a couple of years older all right
okay all right so the results are
that's correct that's
correct the answer is through this
entire process step by step they're
becoming the other they they are we'll
see what what what how this affects them
in a moment in a moment in terms of a
very powerful statement in the Torah
but there's no particular point
where you become the slave right that's
that's part of what we're learning that
basically you become the slave gradually
when you get to the point finally at the
end game that's that's where you are all
right um now in terms of in terms of
call there was something I wanted to say
and I just forgot so I uh you you'll
bear with me that's that's been
happening uh all right let's go on so oh
I know what I want okay what we see here
though is if we're right if we're
right what has parro managed to do he's
managed to engage the entire
population with through this stepbystep
demeaning of the Jew of the Israelites
right now the now the nation sees them
as bugs now the nation sees them as less
than human now the nation doesn't
hold back from from killing them so
clearly the process worked remember we
said in the beginning that the raban
said parro and his Nation could could
not suddenly rise and kill the Jews the
Israelites here they're they're they're
okay you don't see any push back from
them and you don't see any push back
from the Israelites either right because
step by step they're being degraded in
fact now take a look at a very very
powerful
uh paragraph in the in the Torah most
I'm it's fast forwarding to the point
where M and Aon have come to start being
the saviors and they have come to parro
and they have said you've got to let the
God wants you to let the Israelites go
and parro says absolutely not I don't
know this God I don't know I don't know
who you are I and he what does he do he
increases the labor upon the juice he
says in order to do what they were doing
they needed to collect they needed straw
collected to build it to put it into the
bricks he said we've been providing the
straw for you now you've got to go
collect your own
straw and we will not diminish the
number of bricks or the number the work
that that that will will be required
from
you right we're not going to diminish
that so
clearly parro
is
refusing and making things worse and
Moshe says that to AES mosha says why
did you send me here I've only made
things worse but look at this
paragraph This is talking about the
Israelites they encounter Moshe and
Aon as they are coming out from the
palace
V that you made our
Aroma negative bad in in the eyes of in
the
world of parro in his eyes and in the
eyes of his
advisors you made us look bad parro we
we we managing and you've just killed it
because you made parro see us negatively
now hold what's going on here parro is
throwing their babies into the river
right what has happened here the
Israelites have been demeaned the
Israelites see parro as a potential
savior as someone who if our reu if our
odor would be good if our Aroma would be
good then then he wouldn't would do this
terrible thing to us and therefore we
see the result both upon the Egyptian
population and the result upon the
Israelites they've been beaten down they
no longer searo is the enemy but what's
the stock syndrome it's not quite the
same but but par parro is close to it
right close to it parro is
really not so
bad they're blaming Moshe and arrow
they're blaming
mosha all right and there's one last
point to be
made and that
is if you see step by step the
enslavement and the persecution of the
Jews of the Israelites and again I I
urge you to think up to look at this
section again in the Torah and recognize
how relevant it is this is amazing I
mean it's happened over and over and
over again the same things same things
and here we are now
Freedom so what what does a
kesu he it says in a famous paragraph
that According to some authorities is
the source of the four cups of wine at
the
Sor he
says I will save
you I will redeem
you with a strong
arm both I actually I skipped one I
skipped one start with start with the
first thank
you
one
two with great signs with great Miracles
now the rabbis say that these are the
four cups of
wine
right is the
fifth oh is the fifth okay thank thank
you correct correct correct and is the
fifth which we say is
a which only happens after we re-enter
our homeland and begin to do what wants
from us
now what why does the Torah use these
four expressions and then a
fifth because according to kazal the
Redemption of the Jews was also a
process you couldn't take the Israelites
suddenly out of Egypt and say now you're
free now you're free I remember um we
were we were instrumental in bringing a
family from the Soviet Union out um I
it's an amazing story I had I was there
with some other rabbis two other
rabbis and we were in the Soviet Union
to meet with
refusenik and on the last day of the of
the trip we were in
Leningrad a young man came up to me and
said to me you you're Jewish I said yes
he said you know I'm a I I I love music
and I'm very interested in the rituals
within the synagogue so I've been going
a little bit to synagogue I'd like to
find out more about
JIS and I began to we began to to to
talk that day and somehow I kept in
touch with him afterwards eventually we
brought him and his wife to the states
and eventually
now he is a leading figure in the Jewish
community in Staten Island New York he
has children who have gone through the
the day schools and are are observant Je
but when we met
him there were things he couldn't
believe for example he thought we had
two cars he thought that it was one car
and you pushed a button and became a
second because you couldn't own two cars
it's not not possible in his world he
was paralyzed when we took him to shoppr
right and saw all the boxes of cereal he
didn't know what to do he didn't know
what to choose and the you can't take
someone from one world to the next and
expect them to be able to embrace this
new world immediately it's not
possible so one of the commentaries says
very well why do we have
wine corresponding to these stages
stages thank you because wine affects us
incrementally all right the more wine
affects us incrementally and therefore
stand for these these stages which were
incremental and and someone within kazal
will spend time saying what each stage
what it means um with increasing power
with increasing power all right uh step
by step step by
step and there are those who go through
these four languages and say this hesi
meant this and and salti meant this that
each one of them meant something
different in terms of the Redemption of
the Israelites but what Hashem is doing
according to kazal is he's trying to
reverse the persecution right he's
trying to reverse and to have a process
of
redemption is he
successful this generation never makes
it right this generation never makes it
and the Torah is teaching us that even
withes Bar's stepbystep Redemption this
particular generation can't do it and
what what becomes the turning point that
that Dooms them it's the sin of the
spies what was the sin of the spies it
was the famous story of the spies going
into the coming back with an evil report
or a negative report except for yahushua
and K but it's the last words of the
spies in their in their talk to the
nation we were in our own eyes as
insects and so were we in theirs what
what are they
saying when you see yourself as an
insect that's when they'll see you such
when they when we lose faith in our elv
that's when that's when they and we lost
faith basically what they said to the to
the Israelites
was you think you've changed you think
you've been transformed you think you're
no longer that band of slaves working in
Egypt that it's all been a show it's all
been a you went through yamu and all of
this stuff and all of these and that
sound and light show at Mount Si it
accomplished
nothing because they saw we saw
ourselves once we saw the power of the
people around us we lost our
selfconfidence
and then that's so it's almost again
another Freudian slip before Freud where
they're saying when you lose faith in
yourself that's when you're going to
lose faith
in in in that's when others will will
also lose faith in
you ofans
right very
good well that's what that that's
exactly exactly in other words what
you're suggesting is that the
persecution process turned them into
subhuman in their mind and that remained
and when the Spy said to them that's
you're still those subhumans you haven't
changed at all
that's when that generation's fate was
sealed if they buy into the slaves and
they
did okay
yes right correct the heads well said
the spies were the the the upper the
upper class the the leaders of the
Jewish people and even they saw
themselves as
kagi so yes
all right okay there the comment was was
it not the men wasn't it only wasn't it
only the men not the women the answer to
that is according to medic literature
you're correct it does not say it in the
text but but according to mraic
literature you're correct yes it reminds
me but I don't know if this is your
intention uh you know of the uh you you
know what should we have done in the
second world war should we have fought
more should we D you know this is a big
thing I mean right so you're saying that
it brings up the question of our
response to the Nazis when we were being
persecuted I think what it says is that
it helps us understand why we didn't
fight back because we step by step were
degraded in other words every step of
the way
you know they we believe them we believe
them they're resettling Us in the in the
East they're it's going to be okay there
were people who
escaped after total annihilation of a
particular group came back you know came
back from under dead bodies to the
ghetto and said this is what's happening
and no one believed them could be the
Germans could do something something
like that can't
Beed over a period of time you buy into
it so wasn't it selfing to send the SP
because they also had that same mindset
although they were the leaders of the
tribes if they had that same mindset
then of course that they would come
to all right so I'm going to make two
comments uh the question or the comment
was uh wasn't it it given the fact that
everyone was affected by the persecution
and that's leaders saw themselves as
insects why were the spies sent at all
it's it's right pretty
much number one I think you're right I
think that this had to play out God knew
what was going to happen this is always
the case when it comes to these stories
right didn't God know God knew that
spies would be bring back an evil report
if he knew that then why did why did why
did he allow it to happen because we
learned from it because it teaches us we
learn from it over the ages so in many
ways the S of the spies was
inevitable and it was the turning point
that this generation it teaches us that
one generation can't make that leap even
even with preparation the other answer
is again God didn't do this they there
the fact that they saw themselves as
insects didn't appear until the slaves
came back in other words everyone felt
that but but they but they went through
ramu they saw harini so they they
potentially on the surface felt that
change had occurred it was only when
they heard the spies their leaders
saying that that they said that's what
we feel as
well insecure was it wasn't main who
told the spies to go in the original it
was the people that came well all right
it's
okay that it's interesting there's a
there there's a parent
contradiction between the story of the
spies when it happens in bamar and when
Moser raenu repeats it right so in mosha
renu's words they came to him correct
that he correct in in the original story
it just says Hashem commanded that they
they be sent all right I see people
waiting I don't want to go over our time
thank you very much and I look forward
to continuing to learn with you
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