Daf Hashavua - Nedarim 53b

This Torah class is brought [music] to you by tora anytime.com. >> Okay, good evening everyone. We're continuing in. Tonight we're learning. We finished the six parano said like this. There's a cloud that when it comes to nadaram you follow the um you don't necessarily follow the in other words the garra said um if you make another from she is your mut in um she and your inas and the reason for that is uh because more than a Shaman means shaman uh zas and inl they don't use sham sham shaman. So Gumarra says you would think uh and if you use both then you're user in both says okay obviously and says no uh we're you would think even if a majority uses one and a minority uses the other we should follow the no we don't follow the then the garra said uh quoting the if you make another from vegetables in the rest of the years of meaning besides itself then you're also from having the vegetables of the garden cuz when you say vegetables you mean vegetables of the garden usually you eat vegetables of the garden you're allowed to have the the vegetables of the field because most people do not partake of the vegetables of the field it's the opposite During you mean the vegetables of the field you're permitted in the vegetables of the garden is said in the name of Rabi and it's very interesting um when do we say that in the year you're only in that's when they don't import from when they import then it's even in vegetables that grow from the garden. [snorts] Okay. The therm says it's like a place that you partake of both vegetables and vegetables of the field. [snorts] [cough] Okay, fine. Says the garamara. Says the holy garum. So we have a mus between the tanakama and khina benlina benl is not concerned for importing vegetables from gardens during and the tanak is not concerned and khalina benl is concerned their is why the we don't import vegetables from says, "We do import vegetables from Israel. We do import um we do import vegetables from Israel." Okay. Now what is this mak like is the tanakama of the tanakama here says we don't import says we do nowaniel is that we import what's the reason why the tanakama of the previous obviously held we don't import why does he hold we don't important what's the reason of the opinion that we don't import said. The reason we don't import is because when you import it might uh cause uh pieces of earth to come with you into Israel and it's going to uh spread tuma in Israel because is mame. So the tanama says you're not import vegetables from because it's going to cause a spread of says we're not concerned for that says [snorts] to bring it because of the clouds of earth which cling to it say the clouds of earth of the land of the nations are the shab and now the closing Mishna on six since the knew from that we would have to start late tonight so they gave us a short unbelievable the hashka anyway the mish says like this bisparagus [snorts] if you make a a nether you're not going to have cabbage, you're not going to have asparagus. Now, we're not talking about the vegetable asparagus here, but it's obviously some kind of cabbage. So, if you answer cabbage, you're also an asparagus. But if you answer asparagus, you're allowed to have cabbage. No, asparagus. [snorts] What's the vert over here? Um I guess one is a species of the other. So when you ask her cabbage then the more specific one is but when you ask her the specific one it doesn't answer the general category. If you make another you're not going to have grits then you're not allowed to have this kind of cooked dish. that has the greas in it because this cooked dish has greasen in it says it's mut because that's not what it's called mikbah if you answer this cooked dish so you're answering the dish everyone agrees mutin you're permitted in the grits mikbah if you answer the cooked dish you're [snorts] not have garlic Why? Why you not to have garlic am I missing somewhere around here? Yeah, it's on olive. Asparagus. Go back to asparagus. Mr. It's a type of cabbage mikvah. Your mikvah. What does that mean? Um, mikvah is tab of a thick dish. Shall greasen. If you ask a grein, you're user in this cooked dish. The user, the reason why you're in the cooked dish is the curry mikvah. The grein people call it the cooked dish of greasio mio [snorts] permits it. Why? Because in his place are in sh your in the if you ask or cook this you're in sh because the mikvah the word mikvah includes anything which is congealed and thick mikvah sh is also called a cooked dish garlic is also called this congealed dish You smooth out with a little bit of water. It's eaten. It's like a thick porridge. So when you ask her mikvah, you're in garlic says it's garlic mikvah. You're you're mut in the cooked dish. Fine. If you asser lentils user bashim you're user in the lentils fried in honey we had this earlier mater cuz according to theish is like a specy by itselfish if you answer the honey fried lentils your inashim wheat wheats that I'm going to taste whether it's flour or whether it's bread. When you say that implies one entity bread when you say implies many the flour. So when you say both you flour and bread grease and shiny grits grit singular grease and grits plural then I'm not going to taste your whether they're raw or whether they're cooked. What does that mean? Let's see the ran. I'm not sure. [snorts] Maybe when they're when they're cooked, they're combined. So you're asker when it's raw as plural or when they're cooked as combined. If I ask her, grit or wheat, you could chew it, not cooked. What does this mean? Let's see the run. If you ask, you'll chew it raw. When you chew it, You don't chew one at a time. So when you say singular, you could chew it but since it's one body it's called wheat. We find this in the garina [snorts] we have a g over there. It's usual for men. bread could be referred to as we learned in a I'm going to eat. You're not allowed to bake. [snorts] You're allowed to chew it. You You're allowed to chew it raw. So in other words, if somebody says wheat that I'm gonna taste, you can't bake cuz you you have it. That's that's referring to bread. Oneita, but you're allowed to chew it says the pass is called one body. person chews many wheats together. So the Bryce continues I'm not going to have wheats. You're now to chew. You bake wheats. It's you're now to chew it. You're now to bake it. grit to my eating. You know how to cook it as one. You could chew it. I'm not I'm not going to have plural. I can't chew it. How to cook it. Grease. You know how to cook it. You know how to chew it. You see, cooking makes it one entity. chewing, usually it's uh many of them together. So when you say singular, it usually refers to the you're taking upon yourself not to cook it. When you say plural, you take upon yourself not to not to chew it raw. Thank you very much everyone. Have a great night. Maz Maz >> recording stop. I'm sure it's a big sashm for to bring you and bring you consolation. >> [cough] >> You've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by tora anytime.com.