KRIAS MEGILLAH AND ITS BROCHOS WHEN READING FOR LADIES - Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

And tonight here we're going to speak about inilla by night and by day we ver Sunday night for butes and I think there's a lot more still to speak about and even after I finished still what to speak about but he still there's a lot what They still speak about are women in what's the sh why should they not be why not cuz it's a mitz they're from eating m not matzah the from sitting in the from lul it's so you would say that ladies are from kaill all the business or >> so that's a good sh we're not going to get to it in tonight it's a beautiful question we're only going to focus on after all we're learning now afterwards I would like to show you some about it interesting about the other mitzvah it's a good sh there's a lot to talk about connected to night share but we're going to focus on the why are they? They were also in the nim. What does it They were in the nace doesn't mean they were in the nace just like the men. The of was for everybody including the women they were also in the nace and therefore their mill that brings from the bomb is actually in these two other places. There are two other places in where the Gmorra says that ladies as well as also but I'll come upon him one can mean because they also had the nace or actually which means the purim happened through a lady through Esther amala but alapon the gammor says that on a side note if we're speaking about the I mentioned it in last week's sh briefly but I think it's to elaborate a little bit more see it's the general the briskov and stencil and clares what is the What is the of is its own? In other words, of what's about the because they they were part of the N. That's one way to understand. Or says, "Even though in general we say when it comes to we say that even but why are they not because of a with me what's the not today that ladies and giller are Because that's the of course their for wait a minute we'll say it very good very good this you didn't say in the so thinking what's the difference for one minute first let's understand the shel is that's the but why are they are they because or are for why everyone else is because the migill says that you should read the why don't we why don't we look at other places where it says nothing there even though they're not >> what do you mean why do we look at different places I don't say in three places >> right >> we said we mentioned other places yeah >> so but it only applies doesn't apply by meaning if you have this message apply to all the asking good cautious why you don't only say it other places but I'm asking you something else where there is you see over there that doesn't it doesn't it's not it's not it's not a it doesn't void the so the original it shafts it own >> why why you say that why can't you why can't you say >> it should apply to all the >> so Okay, you're asking a good child. We'll get to that soon. He's a about it. Let's [laughter] is the or is the what's or is the not if the were not in the was not in the reason why is because even though it's So that's also if they were not in the was for if the that they have is because of the grant that we were able to get to it then there will be >> what you So, so we'll get to that if makes it into we spoke about it in the previous we'll get it in a minute puts it back with the same question one second of is a very clear you want to know even if what do they Let's let's get to that in a minute. Mama minute. That's the next step over here. I'm happy that I set it up this way. This is the next Indian takes the original doesn't have that. So back. No, it's that >> if you hold that reverse to the original then it would apply also >> says the brisk says that if that's the reason what are we saying over here that you mentioned very well that we spoke about this in last year. The following question that's the other way the speaks about why are ladies not to sit in the They were also in the covenant the midbar you should say. So what does answer says that is not applicable. So that's other mitzvah also which will by mitzvah I say that you don't say I didn't find it now but I I remember seeing it in the past is that the says so it it doesn't pass to say that came and came and were in a mitzvah on when the were. Okay. So the were also not only for women as well. Why would they? Because even if you have by night. Some by day. Why do you say ladies? No. If [clears throat] you tell me he asks. So ladies and says that the for [clears throat] ladies of is only we were very busy in last week's year that the why ladies. You don't say it's only that we have a very clear if day is and if it's all the we said last week four or five fall off because by night and by day it's the same thing. However, in the verb says it can't be that it's because it's The same shily. What does ask you of ask that ladies should be in matzah? The Tory says that ladies are why do you have to have a ladies in matzah? Because with Russia if not what do you mean? So Tyus's first heritage is that is only only accomplishes to make a only to make a so right now asked based off says you don't say how do you say by which So he argues and he says it's only on this you see says that even by you would say where do you see by says it's only you wouldn't necessarily want to be bothered >> I'm just showing you a steer >> no but that steer is not a steer in the g So once I have >> that's why I'm bringing in really I was looking I mean what am I saying? What does that have to do with the I'm speaking about ladies in the terret of the second terret what's second terret ladies even the reason why you need a trump because really you have a fak you need this tv not going into the butus is second terror in migilla's mv that the afain hoy would be we have three different over here. We have a mahal which we spoke last week. Even if you're confused, this summary is very neat. We have three ways to understand at least by day. Either you can learn by day. Let's say the which is the most simple women are that's one way to learn. There's another way to learn like that men and women are both only and now we're showing the third from says that you would say what would come out. I'm just saying overus so for the first 15 minutes of if there's one takeaway how we got to it we could smoo and over it again but I think it's clear the takeaway these three ways how to learn by day I don't want to get confused we'll hopefully we'll get to it that by night also these it's not but at least It's very clear by day either men and women are kabala or bothan or menabala and women um menal and women. Now let's go to part two of this year. Could a lady be moy a man creat? I'm not talking about zoosa. Could a a wife be moy a husband with ka sagilla. So this is finishes. It's kad to go back to see the tes also aim that's very relevant if you have time it's a now before going into the let's just make one quick which we spoke last week already if men and women they can't be right that's they're a different level just like we know a cotton can't be a god can't So that's even be that should really be the answer on this shila that should be the answer on the shila before anything that if between of a man and a lady and a lady's own cannot be an in could they be could no be an isus brings one sheet that they can they can yes they could and it's like that there's another that they cannot the can which is brought explains because both are men [snorts] both it could be what's it sad that they cannot so we said before it's two types of but let's say that it's both or let's say that sad that it's both why why not so over here that brings the doesn't it's not so clear but in when Tyus brings the he adds another two or three words and Tus says it's that men have and that women have in men are sabag to read the migillah. I we all don't read the mill. So we listen the person the has a mind to be we have a mind to be and with that nothing you have the clock before have a mind and that's how you read the even though you didn't read the but when you listen to the meill with sha you read the migill women what >> I don't know I don't know but one thing I could say clear what the bak says is that to read the meill I'm just saying even if you don't read the meill you only listen to the megela you're reading the megela we'll get to the one minute one minute women their mitzvah to listen to the to listen where we have the meaning what do you mean I'm saying over from the that says where does he get that idea from where he gets >> so I'm going to say over to explain I might answer your might answer your shilah why is it like that it's a good sh I'll say over the mares maybe these But first before the let's first get the facts very clear and we're going to get to in three minutes hopefully we're going to get to so what's the changes we'll get to that in a minute but first let's get it very clear that the of ism by men it'sa that because the for ladies is only what I just mentioned Before you have to be to listen that's only for men by ladies they come to they don't have to be to be the bal doesn't have to have a mind to be mighty they have to listen they come into shul and they listen and they men need more than just listening they need ka and the only way you get with ka is with shmea kina the next two three minutes I want to just say it's because I want to really get to the but just to point out you asked why are is it that ladies only and he says the following he's also going on and he says that there are two accomplishments with kaillah to denim number one is with kaillah you accomplish the same thing that is the same thing like the second thing that's accomplished with with ka sagilla is pum haness for the samik you accomplish it with ka women are not so there's no kera for that you accomplish. You don't have to be the one reading it. It's read and therefore men have both and ladies only have I'm going to leave out these big by night and by day I'm leaving it out, but this is getting into the part. I want to be able to still cover the the of the of the so we're saying over here that are that even though the to hear the mill they could listen they could read the migilla it doesn't mean forget about to be mighty for themselves could a lady read the mill was saying that her then to listen to the megilla. Could she read the mgilla? Sh they could. Why? Because when they read the mill, when a lady reads the mgilla, she also hears the mill. So if you can read it, you don't you don't need to read it. >> You're right. You're right. You're 100% right. The says it's true, but she doesn't need she doesn't have to hear it from someone that's what is. We'll get to the soon. We'll get to it. I want to bring you cuz you're pointing out they have to listen to a from a proper meaning to say they can't listen from a tape because it has to be a from a good we get to in a minute in the but they could read it because when they read it as well also they're enough of to read it to be able to hear it la it's not part at all it's not part at all for a lady to read the migill the moav brings from the zy the brings medelum the medelum on r is the zoyer and he brings that ladies shouldn't read the miguela it's a it's a it's also a shila how to understand the z it's not part the says the lady shouldn't thees is only saying that you still have a but in the says not to. It's a says that if there's no man to read it and she could read it, she should read it. But it's a sh it's a sha if she could read the mill. >> Can she be the other woman? >> She could read it. A she could be mighty other woman. I I take back a nada because we'll get you'll see at the end of the year that it's a shab maybe it's a shab decree also I take back but here we're just saying if she could read it but if she could read it for herself what's what's a problem for someone else to listen we'll get we'll get to that in a minute we you'll tell me if it's the same thing remember see if it's not the same thing let's conclude over here with no reading the so first we started very clear that maybe by day and by night maybe [snorts] there's a day and night but could they be men it's a it's a showing them and we'll soon see that the says that they could be mighty So it's enough to say it's a let's go now to the what do they make the lotion that we make you take out ash is that's the z and it's quoting the says but the haram he says is to make The brewer in one place brings this to say that you make the lotion. These are brewer that says in a different place brings the lion mrogill. But it's it's either says the reason why you say you should say is about not but even the that it has to be from a mikra it's not enough just to listen to me not just to have a recording it has to be a proper Mikra, but the mitzvah there is. So we have a we have a if the if the ladies make are why can't they say the just like men just like any mitzvah? A lady that takes she can make a so just like she can make a for why can't she make a bra over here also over there it's al so she can make a braha here also she should be able to make a bra on the miko >> she has her own >> and here here woman here it's even better because she has her own so she's a even so the whole thing >> has her Oh. Oh, very good. So very good saying that's what answers that here worse worse in a sense when she's not so she's not that [clears throat] she can make a taking on these may be on the but these two parts over here these the she's and these the ka that she wants to take on. What should she make a bra on? On what she's or what she's on what she's immediately she makes the on the >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Very good. We're going to get rid you just brought up cuz now we're going to go and we're going to come back. It's not but you're 100% right. This whole of changing the is only like the mitzvah is the what's the says many others say there's another reason says you know why you should say because we're busy like you just mentioned before this is all the sabah and what's like that the ina so what are you saying? So even though mikra migill we explain can also work for but at least if it's you also have mikra however you do the similar says whether you make alikra even why as we don't think he brings it but the says not like the bahag. So just for the awareness whatever they're gonna make a you don't oh very good this is the final thing I'm sorry to drop over time but this is very good so really if they make the bra what should they make do they make the bra or does the b make for them I'm not talking about in shul you come the regular minions that the b is making these these regular men's minion and these ladies also but the later cre over here we have a cre at 8:00 9:00 10 11 12 those creas are for ladies so who makes the bra does the b make or the ladies make >> so before you tell me >> ah so before you tell me let's open up and then we'll talk what you're saying the says like this by the is that the ladies have to make it this is very nega I blow and then I come home. I blow for the ladies. The ladies that's very good. words that could make could make the I think he even says this about if they could or they can't which the Misha says that they that the makes the it's a shila but the shil has nothing to do with ladies the the could be make the for them and then what we said whatever the isra I want to tell you even if the is going to make the bra he has to figure out what he's going to make it's nothing to do that only if the ladies make the bra he's making the bra for them and he could he could what you mentioned that the is not do And with this I conclude because it's a big shila nothing to do with ladies. He's a big shila. If you were y the mitzvah already could you make the bra for somebody else but mark them where the other person could the same thing you find also on kashabas you made kdish already you could be somebody else with kdish. However the brings it's a big shim. If the other person knows how to make kdes and you made kdes already but there's a sh and some say you should not do it. It's a it's a says that it's only you could do it. So back to the with ladies can make the if you go to a place and if he makes the for sure he could maybe even less than says in a lot of places the not do that they don't make the doesn't make the not because ladies and you could partial because even if you lame already the first time and you go lane by a later minion a second time over here in the morning we have every 15 minutes with and one he lain and he was and he goes now to the next minion could he make a so that's really the same sh it's this could you make the for ladies as well so to conclude it's a if they could be mighty men and we saw Abra is a Shila.