Daf Yomi Yoma Daf 50 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning today sponsored by joe schumann caleb ester for successful operation in reforeschlemo by the famous ethanol gorick look at that spread he just brought fruit platters pairing cake is even zapstein okay he's a chef he knows what he's doing my mother miriam bashmore schmelke i know i know the epitome of mdy accepting of everyone she loved all jews she's mamish the epitome the epitome the last thing i heard her saying listen to this last thing i heard her saying [Music] her say was telling my father who's here right yeah here he is is this true what do you wrote here it's true huh this is what she said go do the daf with eitan yeah he's here ethan is here and the father is there okay may she be in melissa for all of our family and all of claudius roll on maine by either bernhard in honor of the birthday of sarah burnhack many more healthy years amen the yeoman bloomberg lily nishmas's mother beilochana bass lady hirsch on her 18th yard site all right your boys listen to this i love when the island comes up with ideas because of ideas we were able to advance a lot in a lot of different areas here's a beautiful some beautiful ideas that we could expand on dear belly from saul rosenberg without the bezel hashem have a bunch of seoul coming up on the road to the grand cruz he's talking about the cruise ship you remember about the cruise ship simashas yeah we're going to be finishing yuma in less than 40 days then we have sukkah which is less than 60 days then you know all these smallmouth to that end i would like to present this proposal to you for your consideration hey spock enjoys visits by rebellion of course a local live share is a special treat b then spock enjoys meeting each other and getting to know each other so perhaps may i suggest the following template format for forthcoming student this allows us to scale not to feel we always need to one up the last one etc one rebellio chooses a different city for each local cm two in each location the program is straightforward some introductions they may be a poem by uncle phil three besides the actual cm hadron etc another big highlight is to meet the participants in each location why don't we think about that we can pre-produce everyone doing a 15-second introduction to themselves or just go around the room with a close-up on the participants and everyone introduces themselves even if you have 200 people you can do 10 groupings of 20 people each space through a two-hour program most cases you'll have less people it's even more doable these meet the family videos would then continue to be available for the respect to watch imagine a scene in lakewood in chicago in toronto miami etc of course harry shalom has bobble head groupies on the west coast just in a different consideration thank you great idea the only there's one problem with the idea that he said i need to be in all these locations we have to figure out how to do that i think no i have a much i have a simpler solution i think the 8 minute daff mdy needs to buy a private jet by haskell josephson no i want them to pay for it fundraiser rabbi said by the way if you are on zoom zoom or you want to be on zoom please put in your private name on the bottom otherwise it's very very difficult what a full private name so that we could see you in the waiting room and let you in unfortunately with the latest anti-semitism and everything we had some issues so as much as our khaburu enjoyed to see shaq doing khafina it was strange to us where he comes into such a holy base mattress with such holy people however i'll make it short and sweet and give you a tremendous limits host that is told from a goddamn from the goddess of shaolin bells in those days without electricity they used lantern candles and by the time the eela came it was about dimming so they called in a guy to light the new candles so they continue diving william kipper rabbits and malka asked the holy rabbi to please see to it that the guy shouldn't come in in these holy moments of an elo the rabbit bells replied who knows if khashoggi was some kid rogan giden and the fact that the guy came in i told everybody to let him look at the difference between your children and this guy that's why i put up his hand and he said look at his hand look at ours believes that our holy rib ellie also knew that something was hanging on claistro we're bringing in this guy every short lifted all katrina and claudius roll forever and ever from the holy kabul of boro park haskell josephson okay listen high school you're very good company we had right after this year a very clutch of a very very close a person came over to me said it was inappropriate okay each to their own i was just showing that i was also trying to make a point some people look at this guy and say for kavan for what he did for him that's a hundred eggs guy has a hundred eggs worth that the gemara so yeah this man is there this guy with a hundred carbon in his hands okay but it's not appropriate to he wasn't classical didn't see the time i brought jordan kissing the floor with the yamakin that's this is the whole thing okay it's a big big number but he's he's he's a yiddish he probably also is very [Laughter] jonathan's the fans he's in the house he wasn't here yesterday and he says what's inappropriate is when i show skinny kohanim doing all that i hear you're saying based on the gemara that they have to be a little heavy and not not to have space between the fingers it's a little bit of a problem like larash all right boys here we go what i'm going to tell everybody is because naftali's in the room starting tomorrow smooth sailing yeah for real tomorrow is the void and the coin that goes from here to there very it's a story today we have kochim gomorrahs also very geshmak brings back from zwarchem remember all these yesterday we were discussing is is the blood of uh oh hold on i have to find my thing yeshua maybe i can find one though i think he cleaned this thing out i need one of those pointer things that uh zombiegamey no maybe it could help me find somebody cleaned it out okay sorry we're discussing whether the blood is considered the the bull the bull in the blood are one so if the kind goddale dies the next kangal will come along and just take the blood and continue doing what he has to do it says in the pasty escala so if you look at the sukim it goes like this positive says and then in possibilities it says it's called par so what do you see the after it's already dead very dead because this is still called the power that's araya that after zach it's they'll call it a bull so if there's dead i can still take the blood and say here here's the bowl says gemara no shi yoiti is kuloi it's not referring to the bull that it's called the ball it's called it's just saying that you have to remove the height see is call apart everything that's remains to take it outside of the base amigos get rid of it burn it outside of the basement uh there's another possum so look at this puzzle it says over here they is again very dead because i brought their blood so it's not alive yet i'm calling it a power so i see that something that's not alive i could call a bull i refer to it as a bull omara papa okay so we have a new cloud says the gemara the oil basar ufaresh the kuliamali pleague when it's all put together then it's considered a cow it has its height it has its meat yesterday is when there's only blood left is that considered a bull when you see the whole thing it has the whole outline and it's everything that's a bow even though it's dead but what about its blood could i say this is a bull i look at the at a cup of blood that's a bull so you want to say that without the blood it would be dead it's not my nephesh so maybe yeah maybe not that that's the majority of our damage holds that the blood since it sustains life it is the bowl so that's the bowl it's no different than the the the then the skin and the meat on rabashi foreign so this is how aaron should come into the kaioshin darshan so how is he going through the kaishakh dashing says the gemara when he grabs it by the horns and drags in a two thousand pound animal into korea hello the dummy he's only going to bring a couple the correlate power bizarre he's coming into the culture with a bull but he's not coming in with a bull he's coming with a little cup oh so you see that the cup of blood vicari laid part so the bottom line is therefore if the kangaroo dies then the second one could come in with the blood because that is the bull he's bringing in a bull what has done this it's not talking about the physical part it's talking about how is izaika what's matter him what allows him to go into the basa into kosher kadashim the fact that he brought a bull but the second guy the second current goddess did not bring a bull so how is he going to go into question he's going to have to bring another bolt how does the second guy get in how does anybody get into kaiju kardashian his key is to bring a bull but he died so the second one can't rely on the first one's bull so the second one is gonna have to bring a boat but she's not talking about a physical thing oh he came with a cup he came with the ox he dragged him by the horn no what allows and what gives him the hector to come in the pyramid okay gevalde now the gemara goes in to the sugiyo or some of it is the tsugi of catastrophe we're going to talk about these five katais not all of them some of them these are five chateaus that die it's almost cruelty to the animal you take an animal that's a chatos designated you put it in a room let it die what are they the offspring of a cantos the offspring of ajatos is jatos we can't do anything with it you can't bring it as a katos it's it was never designated as hot as its mother was nothing to do with it you can't redeem it you can't do anything let it die temura's jatos we're going to be discussing this one number two and that is that if you brought an animal that's let's just show it for a second you brought a skinny animal as akatos yeah and then you see a nice gazunta festa animal in your body so you know what fresh hashem deserves the better one so you say this one is instead of this one two is instead of one that's called temura awesome idea rises to do but what happens is number two becomes instead of and light not instead of equal to number one in most ways so that's temura so if you do that to hatos this guy cannot be brought under his bear he's a torah he's a isser what do you do you let him die mesut bella a guy designates a karmakatos and then he dies nothing you can do with it let it die keeper bale let's say a guy designated akatos it got lost so he brought a second one in in instead of it and you brought the second one and then you find the first one there's nothing to do with the first one let it die average nasa is also something you're going to see today at the end of the sugar it got too old too old to bring zakatas let it die that's the gemara what happened yesterday where's the big kasha the coin goddess dies and he brought a power can the second kind god will step in and just use his power continue with the blood and do his rika what's the power the power is the katos so that would be number three on this list if the owner the coin gold dies nobody can bring it you gotta let you can't use it it's finished you cannot continue doing that and bring it onto the unto them's bear he died what it's parroi oh so that's the discussion again mario today that's exactly the discussion says good morning no this is not yes it's called his power his bull but it's not really his bull he's bringing it what to be mahabhava for the kihana so it's a communal it's a communal carbon and therefore what so i just want to point out now so that we we're we hold cup rava is going to admit that loyola misa asla it doesn't go we don't kill this animal are allowed to use it why for a different reason though not because it's communal but because it's a partnership it's a partnership of the kangado with the kaihanam there's almost no difference it's almost the same thing and the kumar is going to say a slight difference that people shouldn't get confused or whatever but he agrees to this idea it's not i'm there mayor now the tanaka holds that a carbon yachid doesn't push off shabbos and tuma so if you have your own personal carbon you want to bring the oil or let's say somebody's uh mikhail shabab is by mistake she brings a carbocation you don't bring it on a shabbos you wait till sunday you don't bring it when the queen is tummy you wait until somebody starts another mayor so he made a blanket statement the tanaka oh i'll give you a rule a carbon yahood can so he talks about our bowl that we're talking about and what did he what does he call it he's calling it a carbon jacket not like you wanted to say that's a carbon rabbit valley paris let me prove to you that you're wrong the bull of him and the kind of girl brings every single day of the year every day he brings aminha from his own money carbon pesach how do we view carbon faceoff well we typically view it as a carbohydrate each individual goes and buys a carbon he might have a bunch of people with them but it's called the carbonyl these are the carbonyl here i have three examples that you're wrong it's an individual carbon and it pushes off shabbos pushes off too much yeah you can bring a current pace of tumor it's shiny the whole thing says listen to this deal if your mayor is saying that it's a carbon yakid then then the tanaka is saying it's a carbon robin it's a must be the tanakama that he's talking to see seem a foolish that's a carbon ultimaker oh my lord but the government says i don't like this diok because rib yakov like tac teams him says yes yutan and kama say that a carbon doesn't push off shabbos and tuma but a carbon seabird does that's also not true i'm going to focus on the tibor part i'll prove to you that this tibor that doesn't push off shabbos doesn't push up the world that what hello hello [Music] syrian the carbon seaboard so parallel dover is if the community forgot about allah they were told they could do yes or they forgot so they have to bring a power and the syrians can have them if they were tall they're allowed to do a desira they have to bring a sawyer is very interesting because look at this this when we're learning this was to prove that your talmud hakam they could go to your friends and show off how many carbanas do you bring on pesach here's the list everybody says carbon pesa well there's more there's oil as rio every individual has to bring your oil spreader then there's that's the individual right individual brings it on the 14th and on the 15th and xiaomi the gemara calls it a carbon sieber you see tomorrow why but basically so many people bring it it's considered a carbon sibo everything every hug there's a corbin yes not just a peso every the shoulders were gone and also you don't have a dalit you only have one not two hagigas no no but that's because you bring a udality the current pace of la sava it's only to do it so you're full so doesn't apply to any antiv and the current peso obviously only applies to the pesa so the other you'll have with us all right says the gamora valley parallel tv [Music] your clown is wrong you told me every carbon siever pushes off shabbos every carbon symbol pushes off not true here i just brought you two that are three that don't make loud now you you can't say that the tanaka holds oh if he holds it see bursts in the tanaka holds this jacob over here it's impossible to say that this is my first apostle that it's a carbon sibling ella so what does it mean then your whole ray is off the shaman they call it carbon he heard the tanaka saying a rule so you want to break his rule what's his rule that if it's a carbon sebor if it's a communal carbon it pushes off shabbos bushes and rule number two oh mother mayor so that for that mayor comes and shrugs him up not that the tanaka argues tanaka agrees he just says it's not a good rule your rule has to be consistent it's not going to this holes in your rule only remember is that a rule value he agrees that it's wrong so why did he say his rule because 90 of the time it's right he he's not arguing with anybody you can't argue with the fact he's just saying you want to remember this here's a way to remember all carbon is sibor push off shabbos oh but there's three that don't you're right but ninety percent do all carbon don't push off shabbos oh but there's three that do you're right but i'm giving you a general rule oh oh here's what they think ella says ramayana you should have said much better here's a beautiful rule that has no holes in it elena quite high quality this is the rule cosmetic if there's a specific day in the year that you're supposed to bring it bring it i am kipper when do you bring it on the 14th pushes of shabbos pushes off tomorrow is if it doesn't have his mount kavoa even if it's a communal carbon but it's not a specific specific to a certain date for instance power hilum davar kleistrol does a navera when did they bring it on tuesday afternoon there's no they don't have to bring it on tuesday they can bring it on wednesday oh asthma what about carbohydrates very specific to a date and we say that it doesn't push off tomon chavez that's rashes kasha and the answer is what oh says jonathan stefanski he's not just a let's he's atomized i mean all we hear from is late sonas i'm saying he knows he's holding he's holding was that an insult that's what it's called i was talking about myself where's the fan skis we're in this together okay i just call myself down and clock them in public what yeah that's to say that so to me that's a moment of compliment i don't know if somebody called me a lens i'll be wow jeez give bobby say that again hey the next guy's gonna write the email you're let's you're let's repeat this six times okay says jonathan's advanced game yes hagie is supposed to bring on the first day of jantip but if you don't bring him to the first day you bring the second third fourth six all the way to the end so mela it's nad's manuka vua current basically can't bring on the second third to the day of your young tif it's one day only yom kippur one day only you can't bring your matayam kipper very good you kiss it rabbi so you don't even need me you haven't been there but hasin kashi if jonathan stevenson is in paris and show me his role says the gemara what roy brave not right we had all sugiyah come on all right says that the bull is not a carbon sibo as in cash says parvis sawyer purim what's that go away from this for a second on this list right over here you designated a second carbon instead of the first one so that is number four kiproo bale in other words i brought i brought a carbon i got lost ran away i need a capara what am i going to do so i go buy another car but bring the second carbon to the base let me just check that everything is great i get a cabarro all of a sudden he shows up somebody found him so what do you do you got to kill it you let it die and that's yeah you let it die dies by itself it's kind of like killings nothing we had a whole issue here dr avi's father-in-law dr epstein is not here today we we had a discussion about it three years ago cruelty then it was the whole thing he wasn't upset about it it's it's hard to understand this it's allah seen we don't understand it you put into a room close the door no no no no no that's different in a different situation not in these these are allah that's it if that made you feel better you should believe that the king syrian okay by the way this is part of him you have the the sawyer that if you struggle they got lost rib shipment says that you let it graze and you sell it and what do you do with the money people from the name of the devil why meso where this is a communal clatos doesn't go into a room to die so what do you do with the communicators you let it graze and what do you do with the money nadav what doesn't the dava mean whoever learned skalim and nadava means it goes to k times bear remember what k times means the the desert of the mesbah there shouldn't be any downtime in the mizbeh so in order that there shouldn't be any downtime we throw onto them anytime that there's low value in the dough so what do you see from here [Music] so what's the cash here no oh so we're saying see see from here that the par is a carbon seaborn ribaliza says mafurish why don't you kill it because it's a carbon sieber carbon sibor doesn't die saccharova say that it's not a carbon sibo sibling we're talking about the power of yum kippur kiktani at the sawyer uh malay my par par helen we're not talking about the the bull of the cayenne of the kind god all that was the whole discussion robert says the kind of brings it it's who pays for it kangado from his own private money so i is going to give a capper to the kohanam okay but it's not a carbon seaboard it's his own private but it says over here so my answer is no it's not his private bowl we're talking about it the other bull power helm dover seaboard not it says that we're talking about yom kippur we're not talking about a wednesday afternoon the clydesdale did have a desire or they didn't have a dessert but another available sawyer sire is certainly a carbon seaboard and that's what yom kippur is referring to when it says him kipper it's referring to the tsar when it says bo is referring to the bull of a communal average but we have another bryce okay fine he made a nice and we got out of her first second but it says my fortune to bryso the two things combined power shelliam keeper that you can't get out of it's the bull of him keeper visage just the wording is much stronger so we can't get out of it and it says what's considered we're not talking about that it's a carbon katas and that's why it doesn't die allah a machine for me the reason why it doesn't die is not because it's communal but because it's a partnership as the gemara might have kimino so then why did robert drive him crazy we had akasha what was the casual gosh it is kind goddamn a dies and he leaves over ochatas could kind be congratula use it he says how could he use it that the owner died and the owner dies you can't use so the answer is that's not a hat that the owner that that the owner died it's a hattus of the seaborn and when the sieber has a hat nobody dies you can't kill off a whole seber so if a whole siever owns the khattas unless all of kylie's soil dies which is impossible then you get to use that carbon says reverend no no no it's not true it's not it's not a tea board it's a it's a partnership so what but the answer is the same the answer is you know why you could that's the second kind of could use it because it's a partnership so why why was he so upset he wasn't he agrees that that's the answer he's just saying so there's a long rash here do we have time basically clai's role is divided into swatum and each shave it is called a kahala community besides the kahanam because the kehanim they don't have land they're not a community so therefore says amazing i want you to know that if they sin because the sanhedrin said they should they don't bring the carbon like everybody else they're not a community that's what i want to tell you they're not at seabourn i want you to know there's a difference between a t-bird a partnership that's the only thing that he's trying to bring out here therefore he said i'm telling you that there's a difference between a partnership and a seaboard they're not sibo they're not a community they they're not a community because they and therefore if they sin as a community they don't bring a community carbon because they're not a community they don't get away with just one power for a hundred thousand people when they sin even though the sanhedrin told them to sin each one has to bring a carbon they can't get away with power one par helen davar and they're inviting it because they're not a community why are they not a guinea because they don't have a nacho tashima dubai rebel lazar so the new sponsorship of turning the daf turning to the bays and for the success in gashmius and especially his grandchildren who happen to be the babysitters of my grandchild the famous mando yeah that's who you're referring to granddog foreign so let's go back to this little thing what's tomorrow again we got a tamura a guy brings a car but it cost him a hundred bucks and then he found in his bar in a car urban that cost a thousand dollars here so he wants to be a haha he wants to do the right thing and he says why should i bring such a lousy carbon hashem let me bring the better one it's awesome this is the horizon do not do tomorrow remember when basement comes don't do that it's awesome but if you do it then the second one has the same medusa almost as the first one so the question is this bull that the kind goggle brings out of his own bar and he pays for it with his own money cost him five thousand dollar of two thousand dollars the cal cost right two thousand dollars he paid with his own money but the kohanim are all gonna have a capara through it is it an individual carbon which he could go ahead and say oh i found a better bull let me bring the better one and then it becomes tamura or it's considered a communal bull and he doesn't have the right to say tomorrow there's no temura on a community on a communal ball who holds that this ball is an individual does he really hold its individual all the way to the point where oyster tomorrow or no inaudible [Music] so oh so because he said this so therefore a medic that the tanaka holds that it's the tzibor and not like rava not like again just like he's changed the wording a little bit before he's going to change it over here also not that it's not a t-bird but that it's shut it's a short when you hold that this ball that the kaigala brings is considered individual oysters my camera barely what is the cash exactly because the torah tells us that with this bull he's giving a khapara to all the kohanam doesn't that make it communal so the question is ibas or magdish has lean on ibus or miscapper as linux what do we look at do we look at the kind godot who bought the carbon and he designated the carbon and therefore it's a it's considered a carbonyl or do we look at the outcome the outcome is for the random and therefore it's a rabam carbon and if it's around carbon you cannot do temura if it's a yucca carbon you could do temura shitto says the gemara the bosom is lino here i'm serious we have three beautiful al lokas here listen to this a guy wants to be a nice guy he wants to help his friend he sees his help his friend is in tsaris doesn't have money but his friend uh is by mistake now he has to call about 500 bucks for the for the sheep what is he going to do it's on me now the sheep has the mum so they have to redeem the sheep who redeems it the nice guy now it's going to cost some more money because when you redeem a sheep you have to add a fifth or the guy that did that veyron he got the sheep says you're not going to believe this it's not so nice don't worry about the guy that helps out his friend he's the one that has to suffer the loss moisture what about what if the guy that did that there wants to do it he says you know it's not nice you you did such a nice thing for me you bought me a car bun let me take care of it i'll go to the mac i'll get the 500 does he have to pay a fifth no why be it's only the guy that does the magdesh that the heck the one the nice guy that bought the carpet he's the only one that has to pay fifth the receiver doesn't have to pay a fifth okay next exactly no good deed goes unpunished [Music] we're in a theme we're we're on a roll there first we take the haters i was trying to do a good deed put him in a room let him die it's kisser vamos capra now listen to this the guy that the nice guy that bought the carbon he cannot make tomorrow it's not his he gave it to his friend but the the receiver the bala vera the the guy that got the free carbon if he decides to one-up the carbon and and designate a nicer car but instead of the one he got for free that's called what tamura yeah so you're asking me does it go by the goddamn who bought the carbon or does it go but by the hanum that received the capara over here you see the foolish that it goes by the one that receives the caparra the the receiver not the giver and then we go back there if i'm a nice guy i decide to do true muslim meisters for you okay this is what then i'm israel and i have a grandchild that's a kind because my daughter married a kind so i could have the type of sano i could say that i want the truman's homicide to go to a specific to my to my grandson i want my that's worth a little bit of money i want that for me fine but anyway it says like this lawyer alone she delayed the boss of misconduct no you're right of course it goes by the the guy that gets to forgive so in other words and if it goes by them there shouldn't be any temura why because they're at sibo do we view it as as if these are part of the carbon that shut them they have a helical in the carbon yeah how do we view it you hear a bosai kangaroo takes a nice giant bull out of his barn and he brings it as a carbon and it's mahaprabhu all the kahanam in the world does that mean that every client has 25 cents in this animal or it means that it's one hundred percent declining goggles this side it floats above it there's a it's soft it's floating above a capara but not because they own it as a side point hashem gives them a caparo they're not part of the animal they get a kapara dilma bukufiam is copper kofia so it says that there's a list here you have the original carbon here you have where's that thing sometimes one has more hummus than two sometimes two has more hormones than one primer now we have to remember this i'm looking for a carbon listen to this that could work with an individual work with a tibor sometimes you bring the oil for the community carbon atomic every single morning sometimes ayaka brings the carbon oil okay so that fits that video and this particular carbon pushes off shabbos now why does tamura not push off shabbos and tomo because tomorrow doesn't have his mount kevor we said in order to push of shabbos and two it has to be a specific time tomorrow doesn't have a specific diet you could bring it anytime voice it tomorrow the original carbon you can make a tumur instead of it but once it's number two you can't make atura tatum give me tomorrow and what's so hummer about number two listen to this if i say this should be instead of one and this has a mum that will never go away biggest possible but if if you try to make this guy stop i'm a nice guy i want to bring the oil to the basement and i say this animal should be oil and then i find out that it's missing a leg it's not oil nothing so the inaudible therefore since this guy number two became so powerful of geducho that when i redeem it i cannot share its wall and i can't work it i can redeem it a point but i can't share its work because the zebra never had says now i need to check off three boxes i need a carbon that's yacht kibitibor it works for the community it works an individual i need a carbon that pushes off shabbos and i need a carbon that i can make temura what in the world could that be give me an example the only one i could come up with says the gemara if it's an individual carbon individual carbon is never purchased ella deceiver so you're going to jump to communal one mio says tomorrow we said a community carbon cannot be a tomorrow they'll have the power there's only one thing i could come up with says the gemara it's the bull of the kangaroo which dances onto hasanus it's like an individual but it's communal it's a very specific time you only bring i am kipper so therefore process of shabbos and toma there's a great rai uh during mayor that's considered a carbonyl that's the only one i can come up with because if you hold this the carbon seaboard i can't make tamora see there's a beautiful raya that this bull that we're talking about the whole day today is actually a carbon yakid like remember we're talking about we'll stop over here we're not talking about the bull we're talking about the isle of arin why and therefore it's not a hatos it's a oil and it's a carbon yakid and that's why it makes its mural but the pyrrha of iron is a carbon maybe so it's not a right you're a mayor have a wonderful day [Music] foreign help tomorrow tomorrow it's tomorrow no mises no jokes this style for a whole month it takes a month you