Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 107 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] I go welcome welcome to all the guests we'll start with you sh you're in the guest seat what's your name Rose from I'm from the Shi wow but next time you you're doing it on your [Music] own oh got this kind of but the do chuva I see the D Chua what's your name Rafal from North woodmar you together he's my nephew ah his father's over there for coming ah so your father will give you the merch what's your name El gross from Bergenfield New Jersey oh very nice and what's your name raie Rafi thank you for coming who else Bo I got to tell you something it's a terrible story and um will learn from it when you meet me in the street and I don't recognize you oh is right there's a there's a very very guy he looks he is he's very serious he sits right in front of me in ding the last few months so Friday night I went over to him I said I see you do the da maybe you want to join my Shear he's like I come to your da for the last two years I sit in the Bas Med every day I said oh what's your name his name is bar he sits right over there look at him sh can't make this stuff up my son ran home he was mortified he told my wife he says you're not going to believe what happened I come home my wife is like what is it said I don't know I hope it's not something serious I hope it's just because I know so many people I get this meet here he is two years two years one year I'm already forgetting what he told me I'm not even gonna ask what his last name is I know his first name is Bar B I'll never forget it it happened to no same how long were you here until I noticed what sh what's your name I don't recognize you hi Dad all right P who already brought hundreds to daily learning has also volunteered for the Hebrew shear and prep for us a translation of the successful ad encourage more people to join this year for the beginning of Bia says Shai Cohen so Shon wrote in two languages in Hebrew and English and he shows what in two two languages thought it's very interesting because ghi Rose wrote a email in two languages and it says says like this happy birthday shapi Cen it's in two languages while rebelli was partying in Florida sh ran off to a wedding in Manchester KES where the C when the cats are away the mice are out to play so first har I don't know what he calls parting I know Miami is a Party City but if you call Landing with jet leg and giving three shum to four in the morning parting and then the day I had to leave I had to get up also like in two in the morning and and prepare the sh okay go to sleep for a couple of hours wake up prepare the sh and give it before 9 o' in the morning if that's parting sh you're you're new don't tell me you've been here like for a year sh yeah yeah yeah I remember the name now not the face wow unbelievable we met up briefly since he spent most of his 24 hours here learning the Hebrew and English D here his siblings 17 out of 18 were here and they celebrate what your brother still in the he was there also the one that I'm talking about the the guy the guy with the voice we here and celebrate his 50th birthday which is actually in a few months ah see you're not 50th they ah his behind the scenes and is mindblowing on behalf of the M the Reps You' like to extend our war M of wishes so he says like this so the explains between 50 and 60 you get the better of the Two Worlds cuz up until 50 you still don't have the experience but you have the brains from 50 and on you have the the brains and the experience but you're not it's it's you're not as sharp between 50 and 60 you're perfect you have the experience in the good brain it's me SPID at the V of fellow MD wire Schwarz and weisel this is It's rear to see a car with both magnets the8 minute and the mdy can we have a shout out ma to Morty fer on his 12th birthday our dear son brother brother-in-law who sits down day in day out to listen to the shear and learn the inspiring us all with his enthusiasm such a young age thank you very much Ma beautiful this is from Israelis who wrote in here says this is our own schlomo benak he sits he's uh he's in the yeah he does half this year before he goes out on a mission and half this year when he comes back he never misses a DA even in the hardest days it's a tremendous GA for Mish mdy is who oh I don't see the M what are you you're off duty now Shalom stay safe for all your work for doing the give us look you look really young in this thing look at him here put him back over here for a second or both of them you can do it's a youngster all right very nice what are we fine we'll we'll skip this for now it's already going on too long reell the birth of elz GR in honor of Ravi gross's upcoming by Mitzvah and the Art of the M oh that's what it is get over here get over come you're ready [Music] here to learn all of by the time you're 20 he why not we don't have a share thank [Applause] you [Music] beautiful so this is part of our Mr trip put F on Friday at the cotel at the not here beautiful ah beautiful beautiful unbelievable all right we're holding like 12 lines from the bottom got it it goes like this 2 4 6 8 10 12 13 lines in the bom or 12 depends what gar you're [Music] using here we go going back to this picture because it was so beautiful guy says did you find my cow oh I forgot to change it back into the English okay yes I found the cow but it was stolen and there they are in the backyard eating the cow so we had a whole we spent a lot of time on it if somebody claims that it was stolen but it wasn't stolen so we charge him like a thief has to pay double okay we have a and over here it just continues you should make a and he says it's important if I hope to remember later on in the Su typically speaking you you say Amen there is an exception to the to the rule that you don't have to say Amen in certain cases we'll see in a second so here's the and it says at the end of the you have to pay now it says in the is is is means an adult and therefore if this Mitzvah potential Mitzvah boy and you Rafi Rafal you [Music] are get over here so I know there's a Rafi somewhere so if Rafi oral they give over an item to somebody to watch right now it's nothing you have to wait 30 days for it to go to mean something it says in the is you have to be an adult zero so if later on this C becomes a Mitzvah 30 days later oh now he wants this thing back could he get it back could he inv what's that it says so perhaps both cases when he gave it and also when he wants it back he he remained the C how do I know that it's nothing to the point it's such such a nothing such a zero that even if he becomes an adult later on he the Scher never received it from a bar Das there's no Das over there sorry guys no Das you know what Das means okay it's better like this it's like that where's that kid where's that kid that said Tav I'm not he's not here tonight great it's better sometimes better no Das means so when you come an adult you become 13 you get the T says that you have enough brains so it needs to be given over by a bardas and if later on the person becomes an adult he didn't receive it from how do you know this what's here in the at the end says so we learn both the giving and the demand must be that he is an adult so as but why is it worse when a c a 12-year-old gives you something to watch you say it's a zero and if you find it in the street and the guy comes over to you and says okay I would like it who gave it to you the street gave it to you why is the street better than a 12-year-old if a 12-y old gives it to you and then later on he becomes an adult and he says he demands it back we say you don't have to make a sh you lie I don't know where it is n nothing if you found it in the street so who gave it to you the street now you became a why is that worse why do you have to make a like says not only that you have to pay kful everything because was talking about that the he decided to get rid of it when he was still Aon but when if if he got rid of it when he consumed it when he was an adult it comes out that you do have to pay if that's the case so why does it say that both the making him a and the demand to have it back have to be when he's adult listen that when he ate it when he consumed it that's that's the main point here the consumption and the demand you're right you're right that's what we have to say that that's the main thing not not when he gave it but rather that it was consumed and the demand happened when he was an adult is another you're right there is a difference between a cut giving you something to watch and you finding it in the street why because when you find it in the street the owner is still a Bas you found an object owned by somebody that has D when when a coton gives you something to watch so at the end of the day it started off on the wrong foot it started off it was given to you by somebody doesn't have D when you find an inst read the owner ofas so cute story this guy was on in first class and he pulled out a cigarette he looks around he only sees one other guy figures okay big deal so he starts smoking the first class so the guy excuse me excuse me what are you doing what are you smoking here in first class he says it's not your business so he says oh yeah I'm going to call the conductor say go call the conductor so he calls the conductor conductor what are you doing why you smoking says first of all this guy doesn't belong here he's not he's not part of first class check his ticket so the guy goes say let me see your ticket he sees it's not a first class ticket so he Chucks him out gets rid of him fine that was the end of that when they both get off the train so the guy they got thrown off the the first class comes over him and says uh very good but had you know had you know that I didn't belong there he says what do you mean you have the same color ticket as mine [Laughter] so at the end of the day in order to have a tinina to the conductor you have to you have to be you have to be part you have to belong if you don't belong you're a cut you don't belong so that's it you're not you're not you're not in the T so this is a huge huge when a person claims so again we're talking about somebody let's see if this is even it I don't know oh this is ital the farmer comes and says new story new story he says I gave you two cows to watch so the the guy with the Yankee hat is uh is a shimer and he has a p so what do he say he says no uh stolen so if he says they were both stolen say then he's you need to be a in order to invoke you hear what's going on there you have to be a nobody thought about that one to be you have to say something like this one of them was stolen and one of them was lost but I'm negligent so he says I'm negligent with the loss that's a he's the other he's lying about completely now very interesting that when it comes to you don't have to say so if he says this the wrong thing if he says okay swear okay well I I'll talk about it later when we talk about swearing but over here my time we saw before let's see if we have it here yeah here we go is referen to he's being a little bit so the son of the villain says a beautiful here on Friday the Israelis helped me out no I kind of knew it but if you know dick it's it makes a lot of sense when an when you're talking you're what in first person let's see if you know this oh you you learned here in school when you say you're talking to somebody what is he very good and when you say who who is what say it loud very good when you're talking to somebody's you were hear him Friday yeah ah okay good I was like wow look at these kids in they might know their stuff yeah you did remember it's learning it's not even people and they remember anyways the point is that who when you speaking about a random person that's not in front of us it's called in in it's hidden so says the son of the villain going who who is Nar Z is right here so some of it I admit some of it I don't that's it fits into the words says what Z is right here Z here here I admit to it who is already hidden so the says we have a little bit of a problem that the that you're referring to are in the wrong place says you're right it's in the look it's in the of but no no no in fact it's not even talking about qz is referring to a loan a monetary loan money and there's a big difference between a loan and a lost object or sorry not when I give you a cow it's different than when I give you money as a loan when I give you a cow to watch or money as a loan I can give you a cow or money to watch that's the same thing but a loan is different the RAB RAB very famous gar in fact you know it's so famous we got lucky well not really lucky because we could have had like the shortest shortest da because look at this massive ters over here it's massive and then says all the way in the bottom the last last words on the says and the tus if not we would have had another giant tus like we have in the other sugus so we' have had like one word on the and one word on fine like what D was it or whatever like P okay really was that long ago how do you remember that a it is wow okay so anyway so what's the famous let's think about it logically if a person admits to some of what you're claiming you say Hey you owe me $100 and he says no I only owe you 50 so he's a nice guy he's a good guy so why make him make a sh if anything it makes sense not to make him make him sh why he's saying the truth why are you saying the truth so the says no he's not if because there is a that if somebody does you a favor you're not going to be Brazen in front of him you're not going to be May you're not going to say something that's that's not truthful at the the truth is he wants to deny the whole thing explains and why doesn't [Music] hey because of this kak I you cannot look at a guy in the face he gave you a loan and look at him in the face oh you never gave me a loan that's impossible that's against logic you say Napoleon asked he says your gar doesn't make sense because I know very well that I could look straight in the guy's face somebody gave me loan and tell him you never gave me any money so what doesn't make sense so told him this was told to Jews Jews have a sh him you don't have the I don't know huh okay whatever it happened with some or something so oh if he's not may he doesn't have in front of the guy that lend the money so that same should make him admit to the entire thing no I cannot be to the whole thing because then they'll say Okay pay me up right now this actually reminds me of a story I hope I to remember remind me if I don't say it in 10 seconds the reason why he's admitting to some of it is because he wants to buy time he cannot deny the whole thing because he doesn't have the he cannot admit to the whole thing because then the guy say pay up so the guy said so he says you know what I owe you some and I'll I'll go I'll get money and you see from here that even so we make him let me just say the story before I forget famous comes to to to to this other Yi friend and tells him May I'll just take out the forget thei you'll just put in the back of your head says where's the money you owe me you owe me $100,000 he says this I can't pay he says you know what will you take 50 the guys you know he's chasing him for 10 years 50 50 is good you know what 50 cents in the dollar great fine but you're going to pay me right away yeah next day he goes to him he says no where's the 50 he says listen we came to some sort of agreement on the 50 we come to another agreement on this 50 all right so he says listen you owee me you owe me I owe 100 I'm not going to admit the 100 I'm just going to admit to 50 and this will buy me some time so I can get some money I'm a good guy at the end of the day he's a nice guy he's a nice guy he wants to pay the whole thing he just doesn't have money hard times but speak about this speak about you see from here that even though the guy is he means well and he wants to pay nevertheless we'll force him with a to pay it up and says no this wasn't said by a p this was said by a by loone because you have this kind of logic is the guy that has the cows he doesn't owe anything to the other guy the opposite he's watching the guy's cows for free or whatever it is so of course he could lie he doesn't have that problem of is only when somebody does you a favor when you borrow money from somebody you're not going to look him in the eye and lie to him but by the cows he didn't borrow the cows he's watching the cows it's a so he doesn't knowe anything so he could be May over here you don't have K of oh talking about loans I got to tell you this there was a guy that was a big as he he helped people out he was the go-to person in the city so somebody from mdy went to and said no maybe you should join the da she said I don't have time I don't have time every wherever I go I have to help this guy that guy I'm constantly helping people 247 I can't do the D so he said listen I give you a this is what you do if the guy that comes to you for for help he's very wealthy ask him for a loan if the guy is very very poor give him a few dollars like this everybody's going to run in the opposite direction when they see you the rich guy's going to run because he doesn't want to give you a loan the poor guy is going to run because he doesn't want to pay you back like this you have so much time to do the da another to tell people how to join the da almost this is also simple stuff we know this stuff where are we here in the charts so here's the sh we're very familiar with and we'll get to the later the difference between them all is as you see on the chart only I'm sorry only almost anything besides if you want to go to the thing it's beyond his control and if it's destroyed it dies while he's working with it so says very POS all these the they also if you want to invoke a they need a they need to admit to some of it all [Music] four talking about I'm going back to the of it's talking about we have says so we learn from have it's continuation and just like we know you have to be and what about a guy that rents what's that of a renter what is he like what does he like so depends if he's like so it's says if learn from so we have one this is the first and we're have later on ra says the exact opposite that what that when a person claims that something was stolen he's watching your cow and he lies and he says it was stolen then we find out that he's lying he's only obviously on the cow itself not but the C part is when he uses the animal when he milks the animal then he becomes my if you look maybe 15 lines down we see it says same words he says if he actually used that cow poter there is no we just said only if he milks the cow and he says if he Milk The Cow he's Potter why because he's going to hold that it becomes the balabas he becomes the owner of the cow through through using it but is not like that in order for him to be in the back says in the has to make says if a person is a how does he become how he's AOSS he says but I can't come close to I don't have the I'm not a big L so he says through through you become close to so we see from here it says in the but if he did if he did use it then he becomes becomes so we're talking about that he the whole over there the whole PIR is talking about that he used the [Music] animal ausa is this we have a number of pictures here first of all we have this ausa is a trout Tru did I say TR Tru it's Epic Center here this is a automated one I thought it's a little dizzying so I said we got to go with the picture oh there's actually sound America how they do it they don't even have to put the food in the trout trough it's not fair the the GH over there it's not okay anyway so it says like this it's not true that he used the animal that he milked the animal the animal's sitting there look at him he's had no no connection to the anal he didn't touch the [Music] animal does it mean only if he didn't touch like says later on is the by the way every time I say it in every time it's the same story whatever there's a few words like that it's not going to help I'm going to remember your name though huh right Rafi [Music] mean that it's only because he didn't touch it it's it's on the trough over there but if he did touch it then he's kind like it became the gav therefore since it says you don't make he he can't swear something that he owns already he owns it maybe meant even if he didn't touch it but certainly if he's if he touched it he he milked the cow he used the cow then certainly he's I didn't I didn't hear something similar this is not this different he claims that it was L swore and then later on after here this this guy is M interesting guy first he says it was lost I swear it was lost then I guess I don't know he had some pressure people say lost what do you mean lost oh you're right it was stolen stolen and then he swears on that he makes a on that second now you see this idea that the first the time that he swore became his so too once you once you touch it it becomes yours not the that it became yours the is that you cannot do a you have to have a legitimate it can't be a fake it has to be a that comes from bezin and once you made one bz are not going to invoke another ah we had a make five that's different over here when it comes from bezin bezin forc you to make a Shu the second one doesn't count it's not a and now here he says himself if first he swears that it didn't get lost and then later on he swears that it didn't that it was stolen and yeah and come and he say no it's by him the house he made a barbecue finished once he he's out of he made a so bezin cannot it cannot be for the second you know I gotta say this I keep on pushing it off and I thought maybe it's I gotta say it I think I said it by the Hebrew she I'm pretty sure I didn't see say it by the English here but there's no RI anymore if I said it tell me right away there was a guy that I say this about the rich in English anybody no Hebrew the guy old man heard that somebody saw the mag is Rich now a lot of you remember they used to say that about somebody that saw the remember back in the day like 30 years ago this guy they say that that guy in the show like the 95 and people go what do you see and how do you see so this old person wanted to see this person that saw the mag Rich he's dying to meet him he traveled very very far distance to meet him and he comes the guy he says new tell me I heard that you saw the mag he says yeah new this is this crazy story The I had a horse and buggy and and it got stolen I was very depressed so people said you know go go go to the Magid the Magid can help you out so he goes to the Magid says I hear I he he says listen I can't live anymore I don't have nothing what should I do DAV down he says you know I'll tell you go to the forest go go until you find a certain tree that looks like this and when you see that tree make make a right go 50 steps okay has nothing to lose he goes he goes goes to he goes to the forest he sees the tree he makes a right turn boom he finds his horse so he tells this y he says listen I can't say for sure I'm not going to say that the maggot stole my horse but that he was part of that group that's the 100% so so did he see the Magid no he didn't see the Magid he saw something else okay so you have to you have to be a maven when you see so this we saw this m the same words as we had before but he says the opposite when guy comes to him he says listen could I have my horse back and he says it was stolen can I have my cow back and he says it was [Music] stolen if this ghav who's who's lying he doesn't want to return the cow if he touched the cow he used it for himself PO he doesn't pay why he takes the same as before but he uses for his way says seems like that if you did use it then you po we take the and we make him say three things in a first of all I wasn't negligent and second of all I did not use it for my own purpose it's not by me my love have three here so see if I could get to it I doesn't doesn't really make a difference let me get out of here if I can doesn't make a big difference forget it okay we'll do about this for the next year so we have three so the wants to say that one is similar to the other says yeah it is similar to the other but not the one that you're picking to the third one since he's making three so let's compare two of them that what the one that he's saying that I didn't touch it is similar to the that he says it's not in my possession we find out that he's a liar it's in his backyard at the barbecue That's a classic of he claims that it was stolen but we find out he stole it how much why because he's a it's one of the that tells us that even you have to steal it just claiming that was stolen and we find that you were the guy that stole it you're even though it started out in your possession be you sh so wants to compare the two that the that I didn't I didn't use it if I find out that you Milk The Cow you are it's great not a good there's a third he forgot about the third is that I'm not negligent so therefore I'm going to compare the that I didn't touch it to rather the when I find out that you were negligent think about it for a second swears I wasn't negligent and if he was negligent that means that somebody else came in and stole it so he's not the GH of so he doesn't pay kful in that case in fact I'm going to learn learn from the third and from the third you see that you don't pay careful have a wonderful evening a good tomorrow at 7:15 for coming thank you Rafi RAF 710 sorry