The Grand Finale of Rabbeinu Tam Tefillin - The Halachic Conclusion

this Tower class is brought to you by torahanytime.com today's our grand finale about the topic of the children of ravenotam and hopefully we could come to some type of halacha conclusion as well as uh hashgraphic conclusion we're going to start this morning with number 14 on your sheets that what is this bottom line we know just to summarize the maclaces is the opinion of Rashi is the look the one who sees the other person wearing that's fill in the hakai kasidran which means from the view of the onlooker who sees Kadesh and the opinion of Rabino is and that is Shema okay that is my quickest route and intimidated number 14 on your sheets the magadder brings down the opinion of Rashi and the rambam and then he brings down the opinion of Rabino Tam and very interestingly the Macabre is he doesn't say who he holds like personally instead he says already for hundreds of years is like Rashi and the random okay so the telling us that uh the the authoritative approach is then to put on the opinion of the children of Rashi because that's the minigo island however he says in Phase I'm a God-fearing person should do both and how do you do that you put on two pairs of spelling at the same time you put on two pairs you see have in mind and the ones that I'm being um the the ones that are in accordance with and the rest of them should just be regular straps calling them there's enough room on the head and on the arm for two pairs of filling okay and then he says VA shimrim that if you can put them both on the vasakas put on Rashi make a bracha and they should be on for Christmas and after davening you should put on ravino Tam without Abraham you should reach him out okay so the shogunark is certainly 100 recommend that if you would like to consider yourself a God-fearing Jew you need to wear two pairs of sewing preferably two at the same time if you can't do that after another however he immediately qualifies in Seth gimmel loyasa Kane don't do this unless you are world famous and you are well known for your piety and saintliness otherwise do not put on both pairs of tone okay a person needs to do two preferably at the same time if not one after another but you shouldn't do this unless you are world famous as a Hustle and the million dollar question is shouldn't do what unless you're world famous shouldn't we are two other two at 301 during the Avenue and one after the Avenue or it doesn't mean you should not ever put on robino Tom stolen unless you are world famous in casidos and this is where the two paths diverge right this is where the path uh diverges and we turn from number 14 to number 52 okay those so you got nervous when you saw the booklet don't worry we just skipped you know most of the sheets you go from number 14 to number 52 at the same time no it's not no it's not the same it's absolutely different it's are the middle partios coins [Laughter] says so comes the vinegarine comes the gra and the girl tells us that when the Macabre says gimmel don't do this unless you're a world-class Sadiq ka'i it's going not on don't put on the same time don't even put it on one after another why she is right not the Minogue is like Rashi the halacha is like Rashi the Passat but the Macabre didn't say that says if only going I say that I say that how long as I crashy it's well known in the hakatama to the Beer hagra his children write that the girl wanted to take every single Malik as we shine him in Chasse and the mahuria who's right not like this they didn't let him do it uh Heaven didn't let him do it but here the heavens let him do it was like Rashi says the gra you know why you don't put on Rubino Tom's villain because Robin's villain or not spilling what are they they're a black box with parachute theropostale that's a big attack that's what the villain going past games like Rashi and therefore now one second one second so then why if you're a big sad big should you do it because very very big sadiqlo is for but unless you are of that caliber then the villain going says do not do it you can't do it because like Rashi who doesn't understand like Mr brew-up Haskins like the going Mr Brewer says the number 51. don't do it even if you're a big unless you're a big Sonic even if you want to put Robin after davening you can't do it unless you're a world famous addict what about let's say my custom is to wear Avenues and I'm diving in a show where nobody wears it am I allowed to put it on after davening says the mission bura no now how to do it skyba skyva who do you think you are to be better than everyone else in the show if you're the rough of the show and your customers you put on a minute okay you're you're you have the credentials but if you're just sitting there says it looks like you need to stop foreign like Five Guys in the shoulder doing their thing can't do it you they do their thing you can't do your thing and what about if it's in front of another God though that's not doing it you can't even do it privately in other words if it's in the presence of another girl who doesn't wear out you can't even put on raveena Tom fill in privately so this is the opinion of the going and the mission of Brewer that it's not that that Icarus came to the best by the way if you look at number 53 the Republic now let me ask you a question was the villanue development line was certainly as holy as they come so you would think that uh never put on raveena town why not so the answer is because the girl was so maxed on fill in he works filling the whole day we were filmed the whole day you're wearing Rashid feeling the girl held to take off Ronald let me know Tom is not a humra I have a chance in the kind of Mrs I say die rice so I'm not gonna be it's time the ground never found around all day but I who don't wear Ashley all day I only wear Rashi in the morning so it's not detracting from the Die Rise of villain should I put on Rubino's I'm certainly says the garage don't do it why not says the gra because if you're gonna go around bingoid say all the dice then what's gonna happen you're gonna have to put on says the girl 24 pairs of filling you have to wear 24 pairs of stone so now you're gonna be spending your whole day on and off on and off on and off how many tallest bites you can get confused you're not gonna know if you're coming or going so the girl now the gruff says like this a very interesting lotion and we're gonna see again this is the this is the villain Guardians approach look at number 53 in the castle is foreign you have to put on 24 pairs of filling why you have Rashi everybody no time you have the shimus you ever have high going and then you have mahoycus whether that's Villa needs to be upright or lying flat and you have various other mclakes so nobody's gonna put on 24 pairs of filling I mean that would not be a reasonable thing to do to spend your whole day putting on by the time you're finished you know you're gonna have You're Gonna Lose circulation in your fingers at the end of the day yeah so therefore the girl said oh but then I asked him foreign [Applause] and at that point the tomidum of the girl stopped putting on her Phantom there's another version that the Panasonic love ask the going negras said if you want to wear Avenues you have to put on 64 pairs of films someone sent me an email that if you want to be used you have to put on something like you know 50 000 pairs of filling questions so now it's very interesting they came out with a new safer from the mahogany Revolution and ramosha is very incredulous that the grow would ever speak this way such a sharp way yeah you want to wear you want to go to Island Harbor you put on Rubino town it's out of Ramos as in his perception of the going it would be out of character for the going to have said such a thing and look at number 54 veganism such a sharp expression that is anyone familiar with the way the girl communicates the girl would never speak that way says probably not the words of the going places that teaches us that not everything printed in the safer Casa Rush can take it to the bank that's it's accurate just a story you had you hadn't been there don't don't be so sure that the girl expressed terms that you want to go to Island map but again one thing we do know that the girl wrote in the bureaucrashi that we pass can like gravity I the says that a yard should wear both according to the girl he immediately qualifies that by saying unless you're a world's famous Sadiq don't do it however on both side there's another way to read the if you look in the glasses the footnotes on the town he says no he argues with the Quran he says that's not how you read the the doesn't mean don't put on Rabino tantalin at all unless you're a world famous Sadiq he means don't put on two pairs of filling at the same time unless you're a world famous sounding but Avada God-fearing you must put on two pairs of filling one during the happening and one after The Happening not like the going this is that look at number 57. look going on the words of the shulkarnara don't do it unless don't worry at the same time unless you're well famous addict but Avada one after the other if you claim you're a God-fearing Jew you need to do that so in general the ashkenazim maybe the lift for xylem they follow the difference and the minute is not whereabino times more like that you don't put on both the same time unless but certainly one after another if you're now again nobody says the going says that we're not there unless you're a world-class static and there's another way to read the shokhana but what about those and in this community is the only place I ever saw where you have fired them wearing two pairs of twin at the same time and everybody agrees you shouldn't wear both at the same time unless you're a world famous Saturday I mean even if you want to say like the Chula is certainly saying don't wear both at the same time unless you're a world famous sounding so for that we have a very important comment directly where did they get the source for them and best at the same time ideally at the same time and because it's room for both and if you can't do that you should wear one after another and then he says unless you're a world's famous Savage you shouldn't do it which could be understood to me and you shouldn't wear both at the same time but so where where do people come off wearing two pairs of twins at the same time says like this foreign by us everybody does it so it's not it's not arrogant it's not a guy with dick if everybody does it it's only arrogant if you're gonna stick out like a sore thumb everybody's putting on one pair of filling all of a sudden you you're you're you know you're you're a saint you're wearing two pairs of filming because everybody doesn't okay it's it's standard so that could be a justification let's say in many kilos let's say by hasidim where it's the minute everybody wears a bit Mexican everybody does it but if you're gonna go to a place where not everybody does it the mission Brewer says it would be Mexico and there is achuva fundamental number 58 feel like where he's sort of um undermines and mitigates this idea that it's Maxi kiwara first of all he says like this the fact and he quotes he says let's listen carefully to the language is saying don't wear albino time to fill in unless you're a world famous scandic otherwise it looks like Iva who's he talking to if nobody's wearing Urbana times fill in then then there's no reason for him to address this issue if no one's putting on there have been no time to fill in in these types of shoes so what does the base system need to say anything for LMI because it was very prevalent for for people to put on the Rubino Town filling in places where not everyone's doing it so sister mommy panel if it's so prevalent then it's not much secure in other words the way he says is from exactly what the basically safe says is a is a a support and a certain degree of basis for those who are doing it because the fact that the basically is acknowledging that many people are doing but this is not talking to one out of a million he's talking to something that was somewhat prevalent of somewhat prevalent foreign it's reasonable that that could be a bigger concern than the slight concern that you're acting like gaiva well if you are acting guy with dicks then don't do it but if you know yourself then in your heart you don't mean to send off the message that you're better than anybody else so then he sort of uh defends that practice but again the way the going not only says the gun do you not wear two pairs of ton at the same time you don't even wear after Dominic okay now what I would like to do is I would like to spend a few moments trying to explain when we have a Mac like this we shine in we basically try to side we try to be mathuria we try to come up with one authoritative approach and this Indian of fill in is one of the only in yanem where we say you know the minute is like Rashi but yarisha Mayim should do both nobody has two types of Misses on their door nobody has two types of safety even from zachar you're not gonna it's not a common thing that you can go to the shoes and they're gonna link some difference when this kind of I mean what are we doing and for some reason when it comes to the Midfield to fill in you have an idea okay fine so maybe not everyone does it because it's but what's the uh you have one straight in one level it's not it's not really diagonally it's straight it's like Rashi not like Rubino Tam okay you put it a little bit like that that's not just a little it's like a token gesture like but you don't have too much this is one straight up and one you know right so what he says up so what's the union of the rash in Albino town so one thing we saw already uh and this comes from the South situation and we have that on our sheets let's see who remembers we are 42 we're review who um used to send questions up to the heavens and asked him we banish them what's the he wants to know there are two kinds of villains well it's filling one is like Rashi and one is which one do you like better and remember we saw the hey Shiva shiman they responded Kim and just like there's a Mac like it's downstairs as upstairs where the rebuner slum says and so that means that there is an idea and this is an idea that banished brought down also by both sides if you take a look at number 18 the banished I said that the Ariza was magala to the world both are true and the Ben is high holds and his opinion from the times of moisha rabbenu klau yusra war two pairs of villain you hear that hear what the vanish guy said we're gonna see because we're about yeah dismisses that but better Sky writes in his opinion that from the times of moisture albino clay so worth two pairs of villains and reason was magala to the world a lover like and he even brings ramazim Shamar Tamara Yasha and therefore this is an idea that even though when it comes to every other math Like Us in kala terakula we have not had this kind of heavenly communication that both opinions are right when it comes to fill in there's an idea that via the heavens we got the message that both approaches have a have a a degree of Ms they're both true and therefore that's an Indian for the for those who are the world famous however as we're about to see the pie skin do not accept this as a halachic reason to wear both pairs of tone so we have over here Feinstein and this is really lichitase we're thriving does not really use kabbalistic reasons as any indication at all in the holacic process well this is one of the most interesting Chivas you have a chuba here from Mila babic to emotion Feinstein and the barber wants there no remotion I know when you were in luban in Russia you used to wear albino what happened why don't you wear a bit of a tampon anymore you see how bad they want to be Makara of everyone even with Moshe Feinstein right and he wants to know but Moshe why don't you wear Avenues we're moving along right but emotion says like this first of Moshe establishes the following principle people say my father did it so now I have to do that is that true you have to do everything your father does is do we say everything that a person's father did now I have to do a minute ago Dana Minogue what's the Minogue this is a militia very important thing but Moshe says if a father is makbita on something there's a certain opinion and we passed in one way and there is and a person's father is not incumbent on the child in any way whatsoever it's not a Minogue the father kept the kumrah it's because something that in the place where your father lived that was the Minogue of the makahim that was the custom of the place but if it's just a personal practice that your father did to be Zahir in a certain halacha it's a nice thing to learn but it's not incumbent on the child that's not a Min hug my father Reb David wore up in a Town's villain he was and I also wore abena Town's film when I was in luban Russia you know why so emotion like this it's very dramatic because we need a little music right so emotion says like this but Moshe says that there's a difference between something that's an absolute obligation let's say villain you have to where it's fill in what if you can't get philan what if you can't get beautiful feeling so then you can't get beautiful it's fine get cautious villain but you gotta do it you have to do it there's no excuse there's no way out uh and you do the best you can even if you can't get the nicest in the world you try to get the best film that are available but that's for the iCarly we passed away so if you have a good Cipher who could write beautiful albino Thomas villain absolutely correct so then get them so Android Marsha says I did but many many Sorrows came my way in Russia and the cloud became very difficult to get philan and there were no cipherim available anymore this was Communist Russia so my villain that were very old and only maybe not I don't have a choice I have to wear it fill in but if I'm going to be mad for that Romano time and it's not going to be nice for albino Tom's feeling questionable Town's villain then there's no Indian there's no Indian you're being mahmir so it's only a khamra if if you're doing something you're accomplishing them but if anyway the villain are somewhat questionable then that's not incumbent upon me and ramasha said I came to America and I wasn't able to find a cipher that I was really completely satisfied with and therefore I continued of course to wear rashid's villain but I did not I was not able to find Rubino Tom's villain so dear Reba if you have a cipher who you think is qualified and right beautiful stone with Casas basically safe of course but if you could get me a time then then I'll consider it this is his answer to this yeah there's the answer to to the rabbit well he lived in Russia he had originally but as the years passed by and both of his pairs of fill in were not on the same status as the day of his bar mitzvah so the raw Sheet's filling you got to do the best you can for Rubino Thompson if they're if they're not really mahuda then ramesha says there's no point but that's the chuva but I want to point out something where Amisha says a very interesting you sight in halacha that I want to bring out from here what's the Indian let's say you could get beautiful albino says I would wear it you're not you're not marketed by every Mr director you don't get 20 kinds of love him you don't get 30 kinds of stuff right you don't get 15 kinds of mezuz what's the union of two pairs that's fill in so Moshe says he doesn't even entertain the idea you'll see you read the chuba it's not even mentioned says let me explain something to you the Indian of philan is because for many hundreds of years some Jews put on Rashi and some Jews put on Rabino like we saw in the rambam the rambam quoted by the customer said that where he lived everyone whereabino times fill in until he came to aratus Israel and the site from there says what in the world are you doing you got this feeling wrong and he right the sofa threw out the pair of filling but what do you see from there that for hundreds of years Jews were albino times filling so yes in the time of the already it became the Minogue came like Rashi but for many hundreds of years of Jewish history there were many times villain cesra Maisha this is the kind of thing where you can't just dismiss Rabino Tam even though the is already showing the past and why because so many hundreds of the years and so many dollars of Jews were albino townsfun and Moshe says um if you take a look at number 60 about 14 lines on the top IC since there are many places I did like um says remote who do we pass in like Rashi is it 60 like rash it's a hundred percent like Rashi it's a thousand percent like Rashi if you put on Rashid filling you should have no qualms you should not nobody's Levi knife nobody has any doubt he was a hundred percent yet start that the entire Community ah that was the sheer three that we give two weeks ago right where where they came from two different pairs of fun how did it how did it happen so it gave different uh explanations says this explains why you know the villain again says fill in so then you might as well wear 64 pairs of filling yeah but the north doesn't say that says he doesn't say why are we only worried about this Rabino Tams and not all the other says her motion answer is it's not that we're we're more concerned with this opinion than other opinions and so on it's that this opinion for hundreds of years you didn't were we aren't feeling like that so in in deference in honor in commemoration out of covered and there's a certain hashivas to the fact that for many dairoys that's villanovino Tam were being worn ramesha says not because it doesn't even bring in the revelation of the Ariza the Revelation it's a matter of if there is a certain halacha that was Kept For hundreds of years for many Dai rice then you're not but those who are they they pay homage to that ancient Jewish custom that's where emotion understands brother that yeah also wants to know what's the union of Rabino Tam's villain so first He suggests and he rejects it he says that's not the reason to wear two pairs of fun you know why because this name listen carefully we're trying to explain why would the say only here that a God-fearing Jew should fulfill both opinions so what do you want to say because this is so maybe that's good for the because but if you look in the rush the rush says the same thing the rash says should wear two so what are you going to say the Russian knew what what the rush knew what that reason would reveal hundreds of years later it's not shot the fact that you have reshined him saying that yarish shows us that the union of tooth fill in has nothing to do with the kabbalistic idea of so what's the idea service and this is an idea that we mentioned in our first year and that is this is an ancient maklakis it's not a Mach like us we're showing them as we pointed out it's not just a Mac like it's remember tices holds like who like Rashi the rambam held like Rashi many bring down they found like Rashi on the other hand there's a you xiaomi uncut shim an ancient yushami that says this is in the Zion so all the other Mac like a sin that we have are usually Macaulay because we shining us not only in the Hmong do we shine him but if it could date back Natasha a Mac like us we shine him that goes back to the mahilta that goes back to the usual me that goes back to the Zaya itself it's such an ancient mclicus that it gives it more of an acquaintance to say let's let's try to be able to shoot this if the math like if we shine him but if the math like is so deep-seated and clowning throughout that it goes back to the very Origins then maybe we can't even be my anymore that's the idea that just says the idea of yarish Name by the way rivervadia does not put it this way he approves more let's say for them not to wear two at the same time he says the Saddam should follow their brothers ashkenazim in this regard that if they want to wear albino Thomas villain put on one during davening and one after a dominating okay so let's see Lamesa what's some of the uh throughout the ages did in terms of the two pairs of films already said the Villa going did not wear Rabino Tam villain and his talmudim who asked him also even if they did originally they stopped based on at the behest of the building guy okay no no we're not about Tyson no no no no no no no no no you can only have four packages in the tone you can't have eight patches in the town lucky number 59 no not quietly mode after he learned shot he finished uh finished opening by the way by the way though was Macbeth he held not to say Shema in the raveena town's villain because it might be uh foreign [Applause] foreign [Applause] Woods but in fact well the cover time did put on so we have over here we have over here in one of the biographies in the second volume brings down the story ah that will be sure kalinski diving in the shuloff who was one of the uh of the time and he saw that this time of the time was wearing he said were you wearing them in the town's villain who uh I actually it was in Facebook not not that one I don't think so what happened what happened was the son of the godomi Minsk came to visit and the god of immense the son of the governments asked rally pupko to ask him why the time is wearing ABY no times villain after all even with Khan brisker then we're uh he said like this it's not an issue of uh it's not an issue of fromkai because if because the girl said if you want to be macmur you want to be from you have to wear 64 pairs of time so why is this time why do I wear Avenues because I'm afraid I'm gonna meet ravino Tam my and I've been in time's gonna give me a look and I know it's got I'm gonna still see in his eyes I know what he wants so the Vilma going wasn't afraid though the gun would explain but they don't tell let me tell you why I don't put on your spelling I don't have as much confidence in myself and I'm afraid when I get up to the bezen show Milo and robino Tom looks me in the eye I don't want to have to you know answer myself so this way I'll be able to Face robino Time in the island it's a little bit of a frightening thought how real oil yeah it was not much reality and they're different versions also of why the club is fun well another version is brought down here that time said he was afraid there'll be no time would say why are you wearing my fill in well Simon would say you know we passed like Rashi so you could spend half your lives learning my Telluride you can't wear my filling the time was uh there's a contemporary rub I don't know his name he went to Switzerland and was asked why yeah did you see my house yeah I don't know the name of the road yeah representative hers yeah but that's somebody who all the other questions he knew he could answer that's the only you have somebody he's vacationing around the world because he's afraid of La Familia you know gotta send him chill yeah anyway another uh another idea over here is that um The Story Goes that there is a wealthy man in a certain City that it was known to have the most valuable and one time a cipher came into the City and he was checking everyone's phone and this guy did not allow the seven seconds one so why can't I check it so he said I'm afraid you're gonna steal it he's still not worth millions surfaces look else you could sit right next to me and you watch me and sure enough he opened up the Sun and there are mamish puzzle it was missing a word they were never caution and the guy he fainted he almost died the person who had his son almost died saw this and from then on said the fear that that fear that I saw on that man that he was never United States villain in his life yeah we passed in like Rashi but according to have been on time we're never United States fill in okay look these are all stories bottom line is like Rashi but uh did wear a bit of time to Fallon but there's another version of why the club is villain given by his son and on page 27 at um the end of his life during the years of the war had moved closer to the Ukraine um it's almost like uh it's almost as bad as eating the rocks on pesos right so for the club who is the god of for him not to be noyag this way in that kind of location where people who are very mad he felt it would be a kalasha and therefore uh therefore and there's another version that we know in the times of someone miraculously discovered the you xiaomi what can I do for hundreds of years nobody knew those but I've been with Thomas Rhett now it turned out that you show me was a forgery but so so it's written over here that at first all the time would use the usia me but then after it was proven to be a forgery he backed off Kaminsky reached 90 years old so son reminded of Yakov you know Rebecca if you promised that when you turn 90 you can wear a Beno Thompson said what are you talking about but however I never but then he remembered that maybe what this person thought was that he once had uh when he was living in Williamsburg he had a consideration neighbor and he asked him why he said if you have said that and Lita they didn't worry about being a Town's phone so the guy said what are you talking about so Bianca said you know probably didn't start wearing a bit of time feeling until he was 90. so it was sort of construed as if Rebecca was promising that when he turned 90 he would also wear out and sure enough after his Robinson had open heart surgery six months before he turned 90. robiakov started to wear robino town everybody say I'm not telling you what to do everyone should uh consult with their rabbanim and poison but I'll leave you with the following remember we learned and this wasn't when it's in the show we spoke about with machelicus developed the smog we saw lived in a time where people were just push it it was rampant where the midst of spilling was not commonly observed and The Snug in order to sort of be my other people to where it's fill in he gave them a hold Rush remember we learned there was a major earthquake in the location of smack the smog says like this the number 62. somewhat of an original idea that we're trying to advance over here the smog offers the following he says don't make a mistake and think right remember we said only the great red button we're wearing filling but the name when I went on so smack says it should be pink and look at number 62 I'd say starration like we say before we put on the fill-in that the fill in our mashabe the taiva so forth you don't maybe even though you don't even need it but for Russia the Russia needs to fill in more than at Sadiq needs to fill in or Russia needs to filling and then my Rick even uses this as some type of Moira Hector rationalization justification for the period in history where people were not so zoharans villain that the people are on such a high madrego they almost maybe we don't we don't hold this way but maybe they don't even need it as much in fact the Maverick brings down uh that says the following that someone who wears fill in it's as if he's Curry batayra says like this my Rick brings down it says on the possibly filamentia villain that anyone who learns Tyra it's as if he's wearing filling so says my Rick so people who are amaratsim and they don't learn Torah they have to actually wear its villain but people are learning tired of if we're in listen carefully if learning toy is like wearing Thailand so your yard sits filling by learning Tyra now again this is not a reason that's where it's filling but it was Advanced like some reshine him as a justification for what was happening so maybe we could say like this is primarily most observant Jews are not wearing Albano times villain so how could you be yo it's fun so you can say like this we don't hold you uh fill in but maybe we could say that if you learn Tyra at least you could get Rubino Tom sawena right we're learning tiger is not like villain and certainly if we spend four weeks learning about Robina times villain so even though even those who don't pronounce villain Arts feel it is that our learning of the about um you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com