Making A Wedding In a Beis Hakenesses

this store class is brought to you by torahanytime.com this morning we're going to be learning uh two different topics the first topic um my brother-in-law got married this past Tuesday night thank you so first of all learn a little bit about khopa and then recently we received the Shyla they wanted to rent out our show to make a sasana so the the question came up whether it's permitted to make a sasana is that permitted or not and because you know we could make a little bit of a stretch marriage is very relevant to pastures why karate was married right no because hibashi says at the beginning of the Parsha parishes right and what do you wish okay so with that very legitimate introduction we begin um that where is the correct location to make a wedding foreign that The Offspring should be as numerous as the Stars after all that's the uh and therefore we want to make a good cinnamon so the wedding should take take place under the heavens under the stars as a Simon that uh right you know people say people don't always view it that way everyone knows that uh castanova but zarino not everybody you know has the same uh has the same attitude so you know we put it together no zarena in any event that's what drama says should be made under the heavens and again this is not mention this idea of having a wedding under the heavens and in fact that the wedding should take place the supper should take place okay now in that case you can't make a hook on a show you can't make a clip in the house you can't make it indoors the Hoopa has to take place Outdoors and yet if you look in the Rama in a completely different place then I'm all in a different helicopanaka in Hills he's talking about an oval can a novel go into the Super when they're not eating and when they're not dancing so listen to the brothers of the Theos okay can an aval enter the the room of the khupa to hear the brachis some are oisa so what should you do stand outside fine and you listen to them [Music] at the time that they're playing the instruments don't go in at all again Germany Medina live in Germany Dharma lived in Krakow in Poland so not only is the minute not to enter the place of the when there's music if someone's an oven in Germany it's the Minogue in Poland also is this is all in the house that they make the wedding that they eat there they drink there they Rejoice there foreign whoever heard of making a football in the basic nessus very clearly that they made in the basement SS where there's no sincero you can enter there if you're a novel ishment that the other has to stand outside of the mentions the possibility of making a wedding and uh sure is able to make under the khupa in the basic nessus that means if he is the Masada kadushan he could enter the basic nessus so you want to say one time that Allah mentions the possibility of a second message okay maybe I don't know it's snuck in it's a mistake two times three times Rama mentions that the possibility of making a wedding initial right in January you freeze right in July you melt June let's say third you soak doesn't matter what's going on you make the wedding and in your dance three times they're most talking about it in the house in the basement what's going on what's going on what's Rama talking about do you have to make a taco question are you allowed to make it in the show and you're there drama seems to be very okay with making it on the shore says no you have to make it he brings in the name of the first Israel yeah we saw lift shirts who's a contemporary of rubikivago he wrote the commentaries versus he has something called and in our space the expresso writes the following look on the third line of the USA once we're talking about hasanas let's mention the following foreign get their notion from right in other words the Taurus Israel is commenting on the recent innovation of the sadashim to make the wedding in The basicness Who are the Kardashian the modern the reform that's where they're getting it from now we are ashamed of them their whole intention don't let them convince you that they want to modernize they want to up to date they want to be like the goyam they want to be like people that we're now to be like the armor Los Angeles and it's proper to be based on this Rama it's proper to make the basic nurses says it first is wrong aside from the fact that we're prohibited to make a wedding initial for many many reasons that we're not going to speak about at length over here they're hanging themselves on spider webs right you ever try to hang from the ceiling right right so if you're hanging from if if you're hanging from a pole so you may be able to hang on but if you're hanging from a spider web You're Gonna Come collapsing down so these reform they're hanging onto spiderwebs why but the Rambo have mentions three times the possibility of making a wedding in the show the Hamas in this foreign you got to look up the source of the Rama you're gonna take the Rama at face value drama says grandma doesn't say anything on his own he thinks the most citing a source by the way does anybody know the majority of the either come from the Mario or come from and so forth so if you look up the source rabbisai of the Rama less alloy bad guys because if you look up the source of the matter him the person of the drama is quoting it doesn't says he says there's a difference between a shul and a wedding hall as long as there's no talking sometimes talking is allowed and there is no difference but the way it's show supposed to be it's not a wedding is says it first Israel what we have in this Rama is a tall Cipher drama didn't mean to write he wrote base yud hey none which stands for it the wedding hall the nearest Senator we us have never heard of making a wedding in a Shoal Allah's hey it stood right look at the review of the raviol The Source says right if he needs to save space he makes it wider he makes instead of uh makes the words bigger if he wants to make it shorter he makes the word shorter because it's a tall Cipher the printers made an error he wrote base hey and the printers understood that to mean basicness and what I'm saying is the absolute truth so says it tries to smile is it permitted to make a wedding in a shul of course not we never heard of observant Jews making a wedding initial who makes the wedding in the shoals reform modern but not traditional Jews it's a misreading of the Rama because if you have to look up the Ramat The Source Rama is calling the ravya quoting quoting the the dark emotion himself is sent in the folios to the printer and the printer went off or or perhaps in the times of the Rama the printers were Outlook and they got it right and subsequent printers misunderstood the Russia tables so acquaintance first Australia you had to make a wedding in a Shoal absolutely it didn't seem as a wedding in a wedding hall you can make it but not in a shoe not initial again what's slightly problematic is that it still doesn't answer the stereo in the Rama because even if through in how does that coincide with Ramon who says you have to make the wedding whether it's a shul or a regular building either way you're indoors but what happens with Rama said it has to be under the stars so we come now to the major source on this topic the major marimakaim an amazing piece and from the chances and uh samsifer is dealing with this contradiction drama that there are nebanizer says he has to make it and the ammonia are there says the possibility of making it in a base access which if you want to read based on the sue him it ain't gonna help you too much foreign just looking at the original Source itself needs tremendous clarification let me explain s like this come to the place the kala stands on the right side interesting though we take it for granted but if you would ask us who should be on the right side the constant should be on the right the college should be on the left right there's a captain and there's a first mate two captains well you know we'll steer this this the ship in circles there's a captain and there's a first mate the cousin should be on the right the college man left but we don't do that we do the opposite well we put the cousin on the left and the kala on the right why dude yeah okay and that's what we do out of here left the car's on the right why it comes from the maramense you know what why because some puts facing the West excuse me toward the west side facing the East so some have let's say that's the East that's the East so the kala is going to be on the right side and the Hudson's going to be on the left side why why do we want to face these says now you can start playing around with um with textual amendations he says opposite the orange there ain't no orange in the wedding hall so it is absolutely clear from the Mario mints that they used to get married we're in the show some put them in the north why you're going to put them in the South again the north would be over there and you have the right that's the uh if that's the East that's the west north south so the khasan he says like this is the person the captain he should be closer to the orange that's the logic the logic is to put the Husson on the left the kala on the right so that should be closer to the orange okay because in other words he's saying like this some place to the north because if you're going to put them on the south then the kala is going to be closer to the to the iron Kai Dash and that is counterintuitive so what do we see from the maramins rabbi Sai where do they used to get married in the shoalsis so you could play around with the letter base and the hay and the printers and the errors and this and that what do you do with Aaron kaidesh if the whole positioning of the custom account is dependent on who's closer to the iron that we want the Customs to be closer to the orange it's clear they got married in the show but you look a few pages later he says the opposite listen to it says at the time of marriage we make bishas many things that portend to success and we'll see what this main is they use torches at the time of the main you know why they lit torches because light is simcha and this is a big now if you remember we learned before schuess from the pashmates that there's another reason why we have torches okay says you make the under the heavens and the Stars and what else do we do we throw wheat we throw weed at the cousin and Kawa wheat now wheat wheat wheat right so it's right so as if to say we tell them to be fruitful and multiply so we do three things as a good omen torches Stars wheat no what do we see from there Under the Stars so tomorrow means contradicts himself first he says then he talks about this myself that we want the wedding to be under the stars Under the Stars yeah it's not a couple no talking right under the stars as a good sign so how do we do this how do we do this how do we reconcile the maramins says I'm Cypher let me explain this to you the maramins was a talmud of the my real we know Omen Hage ashkenaz are based on the piske Muriel it says of some suffer let me explain this in the times of the my real this is what they used to do they would take the Hassan akala outside and they would do something called simha and under they threw wheat they had torches and they made a Sim and they said you should prove that was the first Hopper and they would say give brothels why in the show because they wanted all of the brothais to be in amakam kadosh at the bhima but the mark of the safer Tyra so says the ancient Minogue ashkenaz which we know we've seen them so far right where does ashkenas come from it comes from Rashi tices and all the great we shine him that lived in Germany so they what they used to do was they made two sasanas two khupas one was khopas nine where they do it under the stars and they would throw wheat and they would have torches and one is where they dab in the shower Brothers only initial however no no no no one second he says or if your girlfriend listen to what he says take a look in the second column he says excuse me go back to the first column two lines in the bottom because we still do the main today the zelison of a shackles domain we call everyone to the shulen to the main Bells they will lead the fasan the salaam and everybody follow him by Torchlight because when they got to the Courtyard my weekend they would guide The Crossings and when they got together when the khasana standing together Frankfurt domain today and after the main on the fourth line is they would take the sauce on and they would put them in the basaknesses and they would put next to the orange and the kala next to him and they would say the Chevrolet Broncos and they would make two however says they would we're not finished we only would make the two boys we would only make one so which one did they do if you have a choice now either inside in the Shoal outside under the stars which one takes priority which one takes precedence in other words push comes to shove which type of is more important says the samsifer let me explain something to you why would they take the class and akala and put them under the stars how are the stars going to help the fertility of the Hassan ah very good so we find that when their brothers on promised children of you know look at number five he took him outside he said look in the heavens count the Stars says the simple explanation is Hashem took him out of his tent says of some Cipher if Hashem wanted to promise children to abramovino you don't think he could have said avraham you're going to have children why do you have to take him outside for what does that accomplish what does that add the answer is ramban tells us in many places that in order to actualize a prophecy in order to make it come to realization you need to do a piled immune you do an activity the action brings the nebulous prophecy into the islamasia it makes it it realizes of the prophecy in other words we find that when Kaiser were attacking Aram the navi was supposed to motion with the fear toward Aram that would actualize the prophecy that we would destroy our own or for instance says that Abram avinu needed to create our history by actually going to swallow and walking through the land and going through those messianics the action creates the realization of the prophecy says wanted to promise children to avram avinu it wasn't enough just to say you will have children he needed to actualize the navua by taking avraham avinu out of his tent and saying you will be as numerous as the Stars no that's what they did for for anyone right then so now the question is for the basula they made both type of hopos but for the Amana which Kappa do they do in the base hacker SS or outside under the stars says that some Cipher they would only do it outside under the stars so what do we learn from there now when push comes to shove which type of Flippa is more important by the show or under the stars under the stars why is he choosing Under the Stars the answer is Krakow in Germany they would make both type of couples so if you make both you have football we're under the stars and yeah but in Poland where they only made one type of hopa says more important but that is under the stars because the same way fernam yeah but no look they were called ashkenazym but with Rama lived they wasn't asking us right it was it was uh people didn't crack out so therefore in other words like this we're saying that of course originally there was a tradition to make so you make part of it under the cover in the show but the same way even for an Amana they only made one in Krakow they only made one which one says Rama right the ashkenazymouth and therefore should be made only outside but let's just see his conclusion over here he says on the last tag that's the third line the Uline is they never had a custom for there to be this Corridor before the show Mustang ah aha let's see the conclusion now the conclusion is we make we make the under the heavens as a good salmon the sky invoice Abraham but these what we call the reform the uh the modern they don't want the bracha do not take me Manu H they I want to distance themselves from the brush of Abram and they want to learn from the ways of the goyam Asher line is who are not blessed like the stars so therefore this is awesome they get married in the show they won't be blessed no problem is it also for them to do an initial no are we going to be my friend no it's their problem they don't want the broccoli novino so they won't have the Brahma but those who desire to be blessed like avra music they will have righteous descendants and their children will proliferate like the fish so that is the conclusion of some Cipher it used to be they had two right and that's the answer to the Stephen Rama the Ramon evaneser says make it under there is talking about making it in the show it's not a contradiction they used to do both they used to do both but if nowadays you could only do one where should you do it under the stars why only if you want to have a good future but those who don't want to have a good future let them get married and they're sure like the guy in initial no no never oh tons of some Cipher they did yes they did in the shorts but if you could only do one then everything should be outside everything should be outside if it's outside the summer I understand you have no sweat but in the winter now let's see it's bad weather it's cloudy you can't even see the stars stars are there they're still there [Music] they throw the weed they throw the weed at the casino right they don't eat the wheat yeah okay so according to the Sam Cipher according to the Sam Cipher According to some Cipher should a wedding be in the show no is it awesome to make wedding in a show it's not awesome however his time with the maram shik takes it a step further man I'm shaking evidence like this take a look in the second paragraph Em Right Simon is if you want to change the custom and make this now it's important on the paragraph before he said that even though originally they did make the weddings in the show it's already been hundreds of years that they took the wedding outside of the second Essence so if you want to change says momshik and make the Koopa in the show why do you think you're doing it why do you think people want to get married in the show the whole year you're calling them we need you for the minions oh I can't make it right the whole year you do not be found in the show and all of a sudden they get married they want to do it on the show why are they doing that because cadilla damasasanim [Music] this is a big principle anytime you have any movement even though it may look like they have Noble intentions no says let me tell you what the intentions are primarily the intentions aren't Nia kagai and we want to be like someone who wants to move the wedding into the shul ISA you're over and this is not to be like merely said is you don't want the broccoli don't get the broccoli maram shik says you want to Reform Judaism and you want to take the wedding into the shul like the Christians the hospitals so Mr direisa of mimicking the volume and this is also the opinion of the chance he also writes that in the second paragraph um so this is the opinion of the matter I'm sicker says sulfur okay that was mentioned already no disclaimers necessary but the Maria Assad also agrees with the maram shik that it is an Israel to make a wedding initial so so far we have two opinions why not do you need the brother Madam chicken Maria said further say that this is a mimicking there's a third problem with doing an initial if anybody uh has been at a wedding recently say no you know what's taking place at the wedding cell phones are ringing buzzing smoothing tumult Ruckus right says we've heard sag and shouts that to make a wedding in a show is a hello of the basic message did you know it's very it's a very interesting Shayla is one allowed to talk in a show forget about davening Dom are you allowed to talk initial no no you'll be very hard-pressed to find anyone who says if you're allowed to talk in a show you can't talk in the show even if you build it out tonight says openly can't talk in the Sean so they have to come up with uh rationalizations if your cavano is to say good morning because you want to make your friend feel good because you want to be Makai in the midst of the day right so then it's Advanced but stance you know well you know what was the score last night and it's right not doing that thing we're talking about okay very hard-pressed even those play skins will say maybe you could eat in a shovel eating is not considered a um countless wish talking is considered under the category Varma Talen is under the category of something that there is no really justification for it unless you have a specific Havana for uh Mitzvah but any event knowing what goes on at a wedding you're going to bring that into basic classes that by definition holds that's the what's the reason for machitza because men and women together is Carlos so you can have men and women intermingling in the show it's Carlos you can't bring it into the shop I will tell me in The Times They had the wedding in the show you have to look how they describe it how many women were allowed into the shawl two the color and the two and and the two the mother and the mother-in-law but now you're gonna bring in the men on one side the women on the other side with all the cell phones and beepers and blackberries forget it forget it you can't do it says I've heard sag look at number nine he says on the third line he named it Poland and it's my latitude Valetta in Poland where I was born in Lithuania yeah until World War one no one ever thought of ever making a wedding anywhere other than outside besides doing it under the stars they would also do it in the courtyard shop Anglia but my father brought me to England he brought me with him my father didn't really like it because he wasn't able to change it is the Ireland I also when I was appointed Chief Rabbi in Ireland I couldn't change it but I didn't let them sing at the time piano I didn't let them play you know the uh accordion or the piano that is right but here in Earth is we don't have this bad custom of getting married in shorts anyone who wants to change he's on the bottom side tradition is to get married under the stars can't move it into the show but even the spider they don't care about the Stars but now you want to innovate you want to change you can change he says how could we there's no reason to talk Atlanta already writes that there is no room to be able to change things you can't kiss your little children in the show and what happens after the khupa right this is a woman who's Anita you see I'm on a rampage against all these uh his carbos after the Cuppa so to bring this into the base agnesis this is completely improper and this is we learned three reasons why you should not get married in a soul number one you're not under the stars cause I'm safer you don't have the bracha number two this is number three Carlos Royce tell us rice comes along with much to find things I can talk with Russia and number 10. and he was asked to Shiloh what year was that yeah 56 right from Arab of small and a small hakain rod was um okay and he said where's the wedding and they said to shul he said no way they said then you're here's the pink slip he said I don't know what to do he has said moisha should he after all of these reasons not to get married in the show and there are many places who say not only can you get married if you're the Messiah and you're facilitating these I surim you can't be the Messiah so should he give up his job is it so hammer that the Masada kadushan should give up his job not to officiate initial foreign even if you wouldn't lose your job you should still be the Miss other condition what's wrong with being Masonic condition of a wedding that takes place in a Shoal s even if they wouldn't be considering removing you lawyer actually not only are you allowed to go you're obligated to go kiola rice because it is your obligation to make sure that the condition is foreign in Harvey you should get married Anna Wednesday and the beer should be on a Thursday says do you know anyone who gets married on a Thursday night it was Macbeth I know people get married on a Thursday because the holes are cheaper but do you know anyone who's marked with to get married on a Thursday Wednesday on a Wednesday Thursday night because the gamara says it's a Bronco the Duggan foreign that's cystosis that if someone violates it's just good advice because certainly if there's no Baraka over here the gamara doesn't say to get married under the stars it's a Minogue Goodman hug him back LeBron James another thingara says to get married in the beginning of the month when the moon is bimilua you ever hear that drama recommends I know um my wife's side of the family they uh they hold by this to get married the beginning of the month when the when the moon is getting bigger you know people people do this nobody does this who's not going to get married in the beginning of the month foreign about getting married on a Wednesday and having beyond the Thursday because of the Brasa then you're gonna tell me we have to be concerned about this bracha that's not found in the gumar that's only a Minogue ah because I'm sorry first said you should get married in under the stars because I'm super nervous that you're not allowed to Alex they have an awesome woman with him some servers only talking about in his times the modernisha the reform who they were trying to learn from the game he just said that they should forgot the handling on my shot um advised against it he just said they're just evening but but still looks I'm super seems to say that getting married in the show is indicative of someone who doesn't want the brachi Sam Cipher says some Surfer was only riding in his times is trying to you know play on the conscience of the Jews who are getting married in the shore and saying oh they don't want the bracha because he was fighting the reformant movement the Harvey equator uh glasses that's what if some Surfers says these people don't want the bracha available but what if the guy doesn't want to get married outside because the forecast is 15 degrees below zero or the guy doesn't want to get married outside because the middle of July and you know he wears a strimel and he doesn't want to soak the new strength or what if the guy doesn't want to get married because it's uh you know outside then the guy wants the bracha he wants the brother he wants the brother right there's a shock say get married in the beginning of the month when the moon is getting bigger and someone who rejects the bracha of the Moon he'll get married at the end of the month do we plan on the guy's conscience like that no we don't try to make him feel guilty because you want the block you want the broken if it's not going to work out you know don't sweat it sesame I he says like this he says that even in his time they no longer get married when khazar said foreign you never heard of getting married under the stars and it's a Pella and the sunsafer that the sun separates the ballet twice this would get married under the stars says of emotional the balitosis did not get married under the stars the balitis got married loved Afghanistan maybe what the samsar for means is ah foreign ties during the Advent of the reformal movement but nowadays nobody thinks about where the goyam got married they don't even get married anymore and even if they do who knows what it is right so it's a guy getting married in the show he's not thinking he doesn't could care less what the gallium do there's Mana zester of Maisha there's no problem of you're not under the stars there's no problem you're mimicking the guy in I but there's a lot of Tomos that goes on myself didn't uh wasn't worried about it he's not worried about the kravis he's not worried about the wrist not even meet us casidos says if you want to get married in the show to get married in the show let me tell you one uh one point one interjection which is very interesting that drama this idea of getting married at the beginning of the month where does it come from says look at number 11. at the end of this is an Evidence not to get married only in the beginning of the month when the moon is getting bigger okay you do it you do it you don't do it you don't do it I'm going to tell you something very interesting there's a steer on the Ramones okay said get married in the beginning of the month there are more in archives three weeks which is coming up says don't get married says you don't get married already again the middle again is not to get married foreign no one's getting married then anyway listen to this you have to be very madak they can Allah never said not to get married only in the beginning of the month he says there is a tremendous difference between the word the nahagu and vinay Hagen you know what the difference is means you should have this customer no hagu means people do it even though there's no reason for it that's a drama now who says this Clow drema himself in the Chulas Rama the Rama says you should know when I write vinaya again it means you should do it when I write binagu it means people do it not to get married only in the beginning of the month grandma is not saying it's a good minhook he's just pointing out people do it you shouldn't get married so I believe what Pam would say people say oh but it's the beginning of the month Emma never said this is a good minute he's just saying people do it nowadays people don't do it so there's no reason to do it never says anywhere you should have the Min hug of not getting married in the beginning to look it up quotes and some tough static there's a difference between and let's just conclude with the following what's this represented by the new moon right the moon as it's getting bigger is uh the waxing and winning of the of the moon is uh symbolic of claw Israel so at the beginning of the month as the month as the Moon is getting bigger it's a good good NASA good muscle rabbis what about what we do we get married not in the show you know I've been to weddings and shawls most weddings are not outside though you get married in an industrial Hall with a little you know hole in the roof you know you you look up and you can you could see a star Maybe is that are you I'd say the Indian of the Stars getting married indoors under the glass roof where they open it unless so the division writes in case number 14. of course that's good enough right he says he says some make an opening in the roof he said you could do that don't do it in a Shoal but but you could do it and um you could do it you can make a hole in the roof and your yard said the Indian of getting married under the stars however the voucher Mordecai Winkler he says no that accomplishes absolutely nothing getting married in a wedding hall with an open roof you're not you getting married in the show you're not getting me you're to getting married Under the Stars right what what do you mean why are you we not like afromovino so he says like this he says you don't think Russian could have made a hole in avraham's roof why did I why did I supposed to take off from outside apparently if you want to get the brotha you want to get the brotha you got to go outside but I believe you know the minute you saw is like the different malkiel that we get married in the holes and you open up the roof and uh this way we may not get married on Wednesdays and we may not throw the wheat but at least we still have a little opening on the roof foreign you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you 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