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If I Were a Rich Man (Ep. 136)
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[Music]
hi this is david rolofsky and welcome to
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so uh uh that's wonderful i
i want to continue the series that i've
been doing which is picking
out uh lines from the schneier's at
random
and different program of perky evos and
like i say when i run out i may just
start again
there's so much to say my gosh i i
haven't even scratched the surface
and uh we're up now to perignality and i
thought i would start with the first
mishna and i'll tell you why uh
after i read it for you benjamin
who is why someone who learns from
everybody
his county
and who is honored he who honors other
people okay four aspects
uh strength wealth
wisdom and honor
and in each one the mishka gives a
definition
and the definition seems slightly
counterintuitive
because i would say like this who's rich
someone who has a lot of money
you want to pick a number in today's
numbers 40 billion
50 billion i said doing okay
that's i would say that person's rich
you want to lower it
yeah 100 million 10 million
whatever it is just say if you have a
certain amount then you're considered
rich
the mission to discuss is what's poor
poor is anybody who has less than 200
zoos a year
then then you can take from stockholders
if you have more than 200 zl's
then you are not considered poor
not because of the rich so give us a
number what's rich
someone who knows of tanakh
all of vishnayas
kim or uh rambam no
no or the mishnais whether you show me
that's a smart guy
um he's a who
keyboard guy who can bench press
400 pounds yeah
give me give me a definition everything
here seems kind of like
uh you know a little sketchy
who's smart somebody learns from other
people
okay so
the answer is that the problem with
being rich
or strong is that it's relative
uh i lived i grew up
we were in a small school there weren't
too many
giveram there was one guy
one guy had a successful business he was
the kavir he wasn't
wealthy by what we would talk about as
being wealthy
but he was he was the gevir you know why
because he was the richest guy there
yeah um
every now and then this happens uh
i i would like to mention the community
but i always get flack afterwards with
people saying
you could have been mostly lives in an
entire community okay but there's we
know what we're talking about
like a secret but there are certain
places where there
is a concentration of wealthy people
and when you go to one of these shoals
in this area
so you pika you're worth a few million
people there worth hundreds of millions
of dollars you're nobody
the show i grew up with you would be the
biggest clear around
so sometimes these younger geviran go
off and make their own shawl
so they could be somebody important than
the issue then
they're the ocean so who's rich
which goes by the situation you're in
it depends compared to who
yeah if you add the uh
you know collection of uh
godeli torah you may not be that smart
but you go into a different venue you
might be
i mean although it tells the story about
this guy who went to
uh age a short period of time and he
went back
and he was in his reformed temple
for rosh hashanah and the question came
up
uh should the person who's been blowing
show for all these years continue to
blow the chamfer
after all he has a kazoka but he's
getting old and he doesn't blow so well
so there's a younger fellow who blows
much better
should we give it to him or should we
keep with the older person
the rabbi had no idea right
uh in in the reform movement rabbis
learned
very little judaism it's mostly more
like social work and things like that so
you don't have to know those things i
think it's a few hours of talmud that
you're obligated to learn
if i recall correctly i if i'm making a
mistake i apologize
i have to admit that uh you know i
haven't really studied the requirements
to become a reform rabbi in a long time
um but um
so he didn't know rabbi had no idea so
he turned to this guy
he says well you were just studying any
yeshua in israel
you answer the question because you are
the most
knowledgeable jew here
that's uh that's a scary reality but
it's a reality
and the land of the blind the one-eyed
man is king
so how do you how do you give a
definition of what's rich and what's
and what's smart and what's strong
there's variables
it depends on the situation
now the reason i mention this is because
i would like to focus on one of these
um i was in america for a
quick trip my granddaughter's school
was making a virtual dinner and they
wanted me to be there
live virtually i'm not sure
i said why can't i just do this on zoom
he says no it'd be a much better quality
if you're actually there
and so they flew in me and my wife
so that we could film a virtual dinner
in person
so uh okay listen i've been getting some
comments recently where
some people are noticing that perhaps
the production
level of uh raviolaski's show is not
up to its usual high standards and
that's true
because with the whole pandemic i've
been forced
to turn to my own resources and full
disclosure
i've been filming this on zoom yeah
which has advantages and disadvantages
one of the disadvantages
is the quality is not the greatest and
so therefore people are starting to
notice what can i tell you
pavarotti the famous uh uh
opera star said if i don't practice for
one day i notice
if i don't practice for two days the
orchestra notices if i don't practice
for three days the audience notices
so i guess it's been going on long
enough that people are starting to say
hey
hey i don't think he's really standing
in front of his bookcase
[Laughter]
is that is that like it's like a green
screen yeah
so um no i was not i don't know why you
would think such a thing
anyway um so uh
so it's uh it's it's
everything everything is based on uh
you know i mean if you go all the way
back every now and then i get a letter
from somebody
who discovered the rarioloski show and
goes back to episode one
episode one i was like sitting in a
corner in my bedroom you know
with a little camera being filmed you
know and someone said to me it looked
like a hostage video
[Laughter]
please come and get me
help when i was a kid my parents had
this
dish child that said help i'm being held
prisoner in a chinese laundry
[Laughter]
that was funny but anyway um so
things about this i wanted to focus on
these things so i go into america
and uh you know i have uh i have a soft
spot
for science magazines and
um so i picked up a copy of scientific
america
and um and scientific american
sorry i know the fact checkers will be
after me and
discover magazine and psychology today
even though it's uh let's call it more
of a pseudoscience but
i've always considered perhaps uh
going into psychology um
but it's going to take a lot of time you
know when i was working for
samaya they were writing up the
biographies of all the speakers
remember wine went first two days later
it was uh
dr gottlieb and uh two days later
it was me and i said well i'm married
and i live in jerusalem and i work at
arsenal
said anything else i said that's about
it
so he said well you have any degrees i
said yeah i have a ba in psychology from
queen's college
i'm very impressed i said yes my wife
she's not using it she said i can have
it
so
one of the russians she returned to them
and said what what do you do with
someone like this
[Laughter]
that has been the question that uh has
been asked many many times
yeah another weinbach one said to me you
are so effective
but what can we do about your big mouth
anyway so um
[Music]
so okay so uh
[Music]
so psychology has always interested me
so psychology today you're not picking a
copy
and what's the the cover
of the of the magazine the good enough
life
and it's an article going through
different aspects where you say
it's good enough i don't have to be the
perfect parent
i don't have to be in the perfect
marriage i don't have to have the
perfect job
i don't have to be the perfect person
[Music]
you could have good enough and this
obviously was a tremendous critic
because there
it's a cover story and psychology thing
so i want to say deeper than that though
than just that
whereas it's true that you don't need
perfection but it's it's more than that
as well
and that is whatever you need
you have you you have
everything you need in your life and if
you don't have it because you don't
and there's nothing that you need that
you don't have
yeah all the tools are available for you
to be able to accomplish what you need
to accomplish in this world not ed
everybody is the same
i've pointed this out many times batman
will not fight a kryptonian
that that man is essentially um
psychotic sociopath who lost his mind
when he saw his parents murdered in
front of him
and uh since he's a billionaire he's got
enough money to buy himself all kinds of
gadgets
and he runs around dressed up like a bat
you know but he got people
okay issues i would say yeah
but you put him up against somebody with
real superpowers forget about it he's
just a guy dressed up in your bat
i mean what's he supposed to do i shank
superman
superman wouldn't go up against the
joker superman would fly at super speed
pick him up
drop him in prison and i'll be the end
of it all of his stupid little tricks
so joker is good for the batman because
he's a nut dressed up uh in a costume
fighting another nut dressed up in a
costume
so uh who is superman who is fighting
general zod
from krypton broke out of the phantom
zone yeah
so superman fights another kryptonian
with superpowers that makes sense
and the iron man will fight other people
in iron suits
because you get all of the skills that
you need to do
what you need to do
i have to be the best at everything
i have to be the best at what i can be
the best at and it's
so sad that people don't appreciate
where their
own skills lie and they so often
would like to have somebody else's life
yeah rabbit left said on the puzzle
do not covet your neighbor's house
your neighbor's wife your neighbor is a
donkey
so he says why are you comparing
coveting the wife to the donkey
is either something very wrong with your
wife or something very good about the
donkey
he says if i want my neighbor's house
and i want my neighbor's wife and i want
my neighbor's animals it's because i
want my neighbor's
life
why would i want to be me when i could
be somebody else
and the answer is because hakushoba who
gave you
abilities
gave you gifts things that you can do
that nobody else can do
and so isn't it worthless to sit around
and wonder what if i was somebody
else is rich
i'm happy with what i got because this
is what i need
if i had more than this who knows if i'd
be able to handle it
oh yeah now he sees this really poor
person and he says that good morning
why is this guy in poverty he's such a
wonderful person and he says okay
you're smarter than me yeah here's a
magic coin give it to him and he'll
become rich
so he gives him the coin and finally
takes the coin buys himself a new
set of clothes people look at the
clothes they pay him four times the
amount of what he paid for it because
they think they're the nicest clothes
he goes and buys more suits before you
know it he's in the garment business
then he buys a house he's selling houses
back
making lots of money and as he becomes
wealthier and wealthier
he hasn't got time anymore for his voter
session
and he becomes a not nice person
because broccoli says elio what do you
say it's smarter than me
says well apparently not he says okay
get your coin back
so he asked the guy for the coin bag and
bit by bit he goes back to his
life of poverty and as he does he
becomes
much more of a year of shamania many
davidson's princes
i i'm not jealous of very wealthy people
i wouldn't mind being a little wealthy
i think that would upgrade my lifestyle
a lot
or not i think i told this story already
i bought a powerball when it was at 640
million dollars and my son bought one
too and i said ah don't waste your money
i'm winning and he says to me abba why
would a coach borrow who give it to you
what would you do with the money so i
thought right away i said well the first
thing i'll do is fix up my car
he says you see what i mean didn't even
say i'll go and buy myself a fancy car
i'll fix up my car that's about as big
as you should even go
he says come let's play you boy all your
kids apartments you buy all your kids
cars
now what
um
he said i said you could spend it goes
oh and a heartbeat
[Laughter]
why because i basically have what i hate
would i change my lifestyle dramatically
i grew up with a father who grew up
during the depression
there was no food throwing out food was
the worst
sin you could possibly commit in my
father's house second only to walking
around
the house in your socks i never
understood why
look around your socks my phone would
scream at us
what do you want me dead
i didn't know the house of chevy you
wear socks and my father
associated walking around his socks and
a house of shiver you know
gosh
there were other things that were you
know a little more important than that
there was
you know like punishment by death that
we weren't so careful with but
you know things like that
but throwing out flu my father went
hungry
he knew what it was to be hungry my
father
most people don't know what that means
to be hungry when i say hungry i mean
there's no food
we live today in an age where there's
safety nets and things like that that
some place can go
so uh possibilities exist but
you know so i walk around my house and i
see
like my grandchildren i'll take an apple
and take a bite out of it and just leave
it there
so i cut it up and you know i'll
we used to go out to eat i never used to
order anything i knew i would eat
everybody's leftovers
i'm gonna go and order something and
then uh the rest of it goes in the
garbage my kids to this day
you know i mean gosh like a bunch of
kids in their 30s you know i mean
they still remember we would go out to
eat and you weren't allowed to buy a
soda
now the reason you were allowed to buy
soda is because i know you would order a
can of soda you would take two sips and
leave it over and it would kill me
they're wasting it drink water
so like one of my kids was like married
you know we went out to dinner and she's
like can i buy a soda
that was like as extravagant as you
could possibly imagine
because that's how i grew up when i open
up the little foil
on top of the coyote cheese i scrape it
off
when i crack an egg i go with my finger
inside of the shell to make sure
that i get out everything that's in it
i can't just throw it away just throw it
away just waste it
that's not how i grew up so i guess if
you have like 500 million dollars
you know most people like that aren't
worried too much about what's left in
the egg
but uh
you know every shabbos we have some
leftover challah slices
put into a plastic bag and put it into
the freezer
every now and then we have to clean out
the freezer because there's no room
anymore you know
and i gather together all the little
bits of bread and i say the bread
collection from jcpenney
he says well you know no one's actually
gonna eat this stuff
i can't throw it away but no one's gonna
eat it
i'm gonna take out slices of old challah
you know
put it out for everybody fine we're
gonna make french toast at this point i
can make like 600 700 pieces of sliced
toast
of french toast with what's left but it
just doesn't happen i could take it and
make it into croutons
breadcrumbs i could uh you know
make it into stuffing but nobody ever
does those things
uh listen you know it's not just because
we go up the depression it's also my
palace of yin
that's how we all are let me tell the
story of this payload
he's on his deathbed he's surrounded by
his families
he says show you here he says yeah says
yes
yeah you here says yeah then who's in
the store
my uh my cousin who knew my grandfather
you know
well so uh she's closer to my father's
age you know
so she uh she said she it was a
snowstorm once and he was taking the bus
and she says papa why don't you take a
taxi and he said
because every click of the meter
is like a knife in my heart
so yeah okay what would i do with 500
million dollars
you know would i buy a new car it's time
to buy a new car
give my other one to one of my kids
that's what i do with my last car
yeah but uh
my father his dream was to wear a new
pair of socks
every day that was like it's wild
so when he got older towards the end of
his life
my mother would go out and buy boxes of
socks
he'd wear them one time and my mother
would wash them and give them away
and every day he put on a new pair of
socks
i said that's what they call saknas yeah
but there are people always unhappy with
what they
have if only i had this if only i had
that if i had more
no then you are a poor person it doesn't
matter if you have 500 million dollars
if you're always feeling like i'm i'm
deprived
so you're a very poor person and if
you're
happy with what you have
the more you own the more you worry
[Music]
i was learning once with an outbreak and
we left the house and he didn't clear
he didn't lock the door i said
you didn't like the door he goes what
are you afraid of someone's going to
come in
what are they going to take
i i hope they break in they feel bad for
me they leave something behind you know
but there are people always i didn't get
this i didn't get that or what was this
what that's what's happening here
which people got to eat no time they're
looking around every other table what do
they have what is this what's going on
yes sir
oh i could have had this i could have
had that i could have done this i could
have done that you know
is what you should have smacked with
coco what i have
is what i need and i'm happy with it
you'll see people circling around for a
parking spot the tests like three
parking spots but it's not
as close as it possibly could be
let me get the best one go to the
supermarket and get a
get a cart the wheels not exactly you
know you should take it back switch it
get another car
they spend the whole time worried about
what do i have
and why is it not good enough
i'm a very poor person because you're
lacking that's in
honey is lacking
you make do with what you have and you
celebrate it
yeah i told this story
but uh but it fits it over here to it
thank you i was online in the drugstore
and there was somebody a couple of
people behind me it's pretty crowded
and he says to me how are you doing i go
back hashem
he says really then why are you in the
drugstore i said
hashem they have medication for my
diabetes
medications my high blood pressure
and all the israelis are dying this
israelis never say a word about anything
and they're like
you know what to tell everybody
yeah i'm very happy
i had a bypass operation
um my brother gedalia had a bypass
operation
mitchell had a bypass operation
my brother jason had a bypass operation
but by the time my mother passed away he
he already passed on and uh were there
we were six boys one of them was nefter
you know and my son was there and he
said to me
you realize that if this was taking
place 50 years ago
there'd only be two of you left because
they didn't have bypass operations three
years ago
50 years ago that's it
my friend david wilner came to visit me
when i was in the hospital after my
heart attack and bypass and he said my
grandfather had a heart condition
he had a heart attack they put him in
the hospital they let him stay till he
rests up they send him home he has
another heart attack and this keeps
happening until he dies there was
nothing they could do
they couldn't unblock arteries they cut
you open and take out a vein from your
leg
and then cut open your chest and they
re-routed around to get blood to your
heart
science fiction
and the medications that we've come up
with and the things that we're able to
do
how many kids used to die of the measles
and diphtheria and uh
you know it's unbelievable
we we have we have so much
but there's this attitude today that
we're always lacking
i don't have this and i don't have that
and i didn't get this i didn't get that
tell the story it was and tells but she
was about to make kiddish
pushed on the cup walks to the dining
room
he sees this one of the bakram already
took a piece of cake and put on his
plate
he says you need daft good back piece
or you're just afraid you won't get a
piece of cake put it back i guarantee
you'll get a piece of cake
i don't like to stay for kidushim as a
rule because
people attack it like they've never seen
food before in their lives
it's it's mafrid
when senator lieberman was running for
vice president
of al gore so he was in a shul
on shabbos in miami and afterwards
they're having a reception for him
so they took him out before the end of
davening they brought him upstairs to
the kiddush
the secret service people you know uh
you know took care of the room uh
secured the perimeter
yeah yeah we have the uh we have the
present candidate over here yes i
believe i know yeah
and we're doubting ends and they hear
this
thundering on the on the stairs
i don't know what's going to happen so
they come over
form a phalanx around their man and all
the people who run into the room
go right past them to the food
senator schmeder this chap liver
so sometimes when i am at a kid is your
buffet you know everybody runs
runs and uh
and my host whoever i'm with will say
you know
aren't you gonna get some food and i
said no
eventually people will take enough that
they're satisfied
and almost always there's enough food
on rare occasions you know they run out
of something
but there's almost always enough food
and i can go after the mob
as uh you know has settled down to uh
to eat the spoils of their victory
i'll go get a plate
do i really need to push and shove
someone
for some cold cuts okay cocktail franks
that's that's a different story okay
maybe i would kill somebody for that but
but uh you know most of the stuff
where are you going what are you worried
about you'll get
don't worry you'll get people get so
nervous
i'm not going to get couldn't be left
out
don't worry there's
whatever you're supposed to get in this
world you're going to get
and sometimes it's mazel
i've met some people who are not among
the brightest people i've ever met
who are very wealthy
i know some very smart people who are
not
kumar says when it comes to wealth it's
muzzle
do you know how much is enough israel
shared not someone with 40 billion
dollars
someone's happy with what he has if he's
happy well he has it
what am i driving myself crazy for
the famous story of this guy who had big
villa on the beach
and he sees this guy with a little
fishing boat
and he's uh he pulled it up onto the
sand and he's lying in the sand
stunning himself the guy says what are
you doing there's still plenty of hours
left
he says yeah i caught enough fish for
today he said so work a little harder
you'll get more fish and then what will
happen
because then you can buy another boat
hire more people
and then eventually you'll have a fleet
of boats you'll have a whole fishing
company
[Music]
and then then you'll have a lot of money
and then and then you can sit around all
day and do nothing
i figured out how to do that already
ah i i i think i said this over in the
past yeah
1973 i went to stay ahead of the night's
show
and uh on the plane back you know
ella used to have these big screens and
they used to
show films and uh you know
our flight didn't have enough courage to
actually cover it over with blankets so
yeah
so the film was playing i hadn't put on
my earphones but there were subtitles
you know
anyway so uh
so robert redford wants to do the big
sting
paul newman says listen we're going to
pick our mark
we're going to figure out how much we're
going to get out of him and that's it
and i don't want to hear anybody
afterwards saying it's not enough
because that's all you're going to get
you're going to be happy with it
you're going to get what you're going to
get and you better be happy with it
because that's all you get
all you can do is complain i didn't get
enough
why can't i get more why wasn't i given
this why didn't i get that why
because you're given everything in this
world that you need
and that's it you have to do the best
you can with the tools that you have
to be able to manage
mention this many times i have many many
learning disabilities
i i basically i was written off as a kid
and one of my rishi yeshiva once said to
one of my employers says he effective
says he goes i never thought he'd amount
to anything i don't blame him
i probably would have thought the same i
did think the same
surprised myself i wasn't prepared
to let my limitations define me
and so if you say all the things
i don't have and you're a very poor
person
you know what a wealthy person is a
person who
recognizes i have everything i need
i'm fine
couldn't you have more i could have more
yeah well i like a new car sure i'd love
a new
car yeah it's dented
it's scratched it you know
when you first get the car has that new
car smell and then after a while it has
the
you know grandchildren being sick in the
back
smell to it you know
yay but obviously if i was meant to have
one i would have one because the
kushboroku
will give you everything that's coming
to you and you won't miss out on
anything in this world
if a person could understand that they'd
have a much better life
and psychology today just figured it out
they said you know if you're content
with what you have
and you can have a much happier life and
everything doesn't have to be perfect
and you have to get everything that you
want
so uh
we should know what it is that we
need not what we want
and uh if we work to get those things
be a lot happier a lot happier in life
people who need who want who are always
feeling
uh like
disadvantaged doesn't matter how much
money they have
poor people lord who made the lion and
the lamb
you decreed i should be what i am
would it spoil some vast eternal plan
yeah probably so you are who you are
when the words of popeye i am what i am
and uh
take everything gives you and use it
well
use it well hashem everyone will go on
to have a happy happy life
and that's it for this week you want to
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