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Best practices for good leadership from the Talmud
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what I learned from this Rabbi is an
incredible ability to connect with
people in a very human way okay friends
The Story begins we are diving into
tractate kuub
kot
17A the link that we had sent it's going
to be the second
paragraph and um we actually discussed
the beginning of this section A couple
weeks ago where we spoke about the
various customs in how to praise a bride
why you would praise a bride how you
praise a
bride and the talud then
continues a statement from RI if you
look at the second paragraph you see it
when rimi came from erel from the land
of Israel to Babylonia to B he said this
is what they sing before the Brides In
the West in the land of
Israel no ey Shadow no I
sorry no Rouge no like makeup and no
braiding of the hair and yet she's
compare comparable to a
graceful IEX is that a IEX or an
IEX anybody
know trying to find the text where
you're looking
but I've always heard IEX in English IEX
what's an IEX it's a it's a uh clean
animal that the long Chau far is made
from oh okay I see okay fine so she's
compared to an IEX the gamor then
relates that when the sages ordained RAB
zra RAB zra is one of the venerable
sages of the talmud this is what they'
say they metaphorically saying with
regard to him in this praise they said
the same exact praise to him no eyes
Shadow no Rouge this Rabbi doesn't wear
eyes Shadow this Rabbi doesn't wear
makeup this Rabbi doesn't braid his hair
and he's comparable to a
graceful
Ibex okay that's an interesting
statement they're ordaining RAB zra he's
becoming a
rabbi and they're praising his great
Rabbi qualities his great Academia his
great understanding of the talmud this
guy doesn't wear makeup and doesn't do
much with his hair doesn't braid it what
does that have to do with rabinal
ordination how is that a praise
let's take a step back for a second what
what is ordination the Hebrew word what
they call ordination in English right
yeah they ordained RAB zra what is the
Hebrew
word
SM what does SM
mean so we know this from the Torah when
Moshe Rao when Moses was handing over
the Reigns to Joshua he supported his
hands on
Joshua metaphorically saying like like
I'm going to be relying on you that's
called SM to support to rely to lean
on so traditionally rinic ordination has
been called
SM now SM of old is not SM of
new what we call rinic ordination these
days is not what rabinal ordination was
what rabinal ordination was so Moshe
receives the Torah from sin directly
from God which means his understanding
of Hal his interpretation of Hal is
authoritative he then qualifies Joshua
because he taught Joshua Joshua then
qualifies the next group of Scholars and
the next group of Scholars qualify the
next and there's this unbroken chain of
rabbis that have been
educated from somebody who's been
educated all the way going back to
Moses and that's what SM traditionally
meant and in order to make certain Hal
rulings you need SM I'll give you an
example you cannot have capital
punishment in Judaism without SM without
a based in without a rical court a panel
of rabbis that have SM that have this
ancient
SM um just side note this type of SM
doesn't exist anymore it ended with the
T one of the reasons why the tal is so
authoritative is because these rabbis
actually
these rabis actually knew something
right they
uh they were they were ordained by
somebody who was they had an unbroken
tradition from
Moses um SM these
days
is I mean it's the idea of it's the same
wisdom that's unbroken but the authority
is not the same what essentially means
is you have
permission from your Rabbi to make
rulings to interpret which is a very big
deal um there's a question by the way
how legitimate SM is these days how
necessary it is these days I mean
everything's in the book just look in
the books
right um at any rate rabi zra is an
incredible scholar and they're giving
him SM by the way just to highlight how
intense um and how studious he was
the talmud
says that you know there's there's a bit
of a difference between the Babylonian
talmud and the Jerusalem talmud you know
the
difference I mean the main difference is
it's a very different style of
learning the Jerusalem talmud is pretty
clear-cut the the way the talmud is
structured it's kind of a running
commentary on the mishna and the talmud
will ask questions on the mishna and in
the Jerusalem tomwood you'll have
answers and with those answers you'll
have conclusions in in Jewish
the Babylonian tud is a lot more
complicated because you'll have the
mishna you'll have a question on the
mishna the tud will challenge the
premise of that
question the Tom will will challenge the
premise of that question and then
challenge the premise of that premise
and say bring me a source that
eventually you'll get to a
conclusion sometimes even the same
conclusion maybe not always it's a lot
more of a a roundabout way it's a longer
route with that longer route comes
clarity now RAB zra was from B from
Babylon so he was studying the
Babylonian style of of learning he comes
to Jerusalem and he realizes he's going
to have to learn but he's have to learn
his learning is going to be very
different so the tal says he fasted 40
fasts to forget the entire Babylonian
talmud now again bonian talud is still
in the process of being written but I
think it means the Babylonian style of
Le learning so he could adopt the
Jerusalem talmud the Jerusalem style of
learning the learning of clarity the
learning of
sharpness I'm sharing this with you just
to illustrate the
studiousness studiousness of
RAB now what kind of Praise is this this
is a great scholar no eyeliner no makeup
doesn't even braid his
hair what are they what are they talking
about what are they saying
so I'd like to share with you three
interpretations and from these three
interpretations we are going
to
understand the qualities that leadership
should have make
sense interpretation number one is by
the mahara the mahara is one of the
commentaries on the talwood that focuses
a lot on the aad portion of talmud on
the on the homo parts of T the eth of
talmud the ethical parts of the talmud
not just theic parts of
talmud and he says what is this what do
these three things represent him not
wearing eyeliner you wouldn't expect him
to right him not wearing makeup him not
braiding his hair these are
metaphorical as we mentioned in previous
uh discussions the general rule of thumb
is when the talmud is discussing it's
literal when the talmud is discussing
philosophy it's often
metaphorical what's the metaphor
here eyeliner means something covering
your
eye it's almost like a
lens and RAB zra didn't have lenses on
he had
Clarity we mentioned he went from
Babylon to Jerusalem from a way of
studying that required unpacking details
to Raw clarity
and with that came Clarity had
Clarity his vision wasn't tainted his
vision wasn't tainted by his own
biases his vision wasn't tainted by his
own agendas and
desires just pure access to truth no
eyeliner he didn't have any makeup on
his face he wasn't trying to
hide he wasn't trying to create a
certain image
uh a certain
theatrical uh Persona of this is the
type of this is what I want leadership
to look like this is what I want people
to buy
into essentially he was genuine he was
real and the third thing was he didn't
braid his hair the Mah explains what is
the significance of long hair presumably
he had short
hair so what's the significance of long
hair what type of male traditional
Judaism would have long hair anybody
know from the
Torah a
nazer a Nazir is a person who takes upon
himself to not cut his hair to not drink
wine to stay away from impurities such
as a cemetery as a
cenwood and it's funny the Torah gives
people permission to adopt a nazer
lifestyle as if they wanted to live a
holy sacred lifestyle
separate from the world separate from
people the Torah frowns upon it though
it's ironic it's one of those things
where it's like a Mitzvah that you can
opt to do yet it's frowned upon why is
it frowned upon because you shouldn't
have to be in that situation but some
people are in that situation some people
are in a situation where they need to
vow and separate themselves from the
world because they get too Imes in the
world too
easily R zra was the type of leader who
was not separate from the world he
didn't have long hair like a nazer he
didn't have nuer qualities he wasn't on
a holier than now he wasn't on a high
horse he
wasn't he was grounded in
reality he was
approachable and a rabbi needs both of
these things a rabbi can't just
understand Torah a rabbi has to
understand the reality to which Torah
applies and that's true in any
leadership uh position but with that has
to come a high level of
approachability you have to be able to
approach that person they have to be
approachable there's a story I mean it's
an old story and I'm sure it happened
many times with many rabbis
where um a lady had a a simple question
about kosher in the
kitchen she runs into theiva asks the
rabbi the question he says let me
research it for you she he says come
back soon she leaves and all the
students are like Rabbi we all know the
answer to this come on don't mix milk
and meat like it wasn't that complicated
of a question why couldn't you just tell
her the answer he says because I want to
respect her question she needs to
realize that we're
approachable if I shoot at an answer she
might doubt the validity of her question
and not ask questions in the
future NE Zera was approachable he
wasn't on the high horse he wasn't
separate from the world he understood
people's
needs I'll tell you a great story
it's a bit of a weird story but I'm
going to say
it when I was I was working at a yiva in
Florida yiva for young college age
students
discovering Judaism for the first time
many of them still exploring Judaism for
the first time some of them went to
Hebrew school as kids some of them did
not some of them had a zero educational
background and they're exploring
Judaism in depth for the first time
they're learning a full day they're
learning they're learning
tal and some of these students are here
for a year some of them are here for a
couple months everybody has their own
story and
somehow the conversation came up that a
couple of these guys did not have a
kosher
bris as a kid you know they had a
hospital circumcision but not not by a
mo which means you got to do it again no
I'm kidding
but what that does mean are you familiar
with this
procedure if somebody did not get a
proper bris by m
Mo there is a procedure called hatas
which means yeah poking it's a small
poke almost like like like a diabetic
might you know drawing a a microscopic
amount of blood symbolically because
blood is a part of the bris service and
even though the circumcision took place
they never got the blood drawn in a
Kosher Way and that has to be done
separately and that's done by a moel I I
don't remember how this came up in
conversation nor do I want it no I'm
just
[Laughter]
kidding um I think there was a bris at
at the sh or something that we were at
at the school we were whatever it was
there was there was
like and I said to couple of the guys
you know you really should consider
doing this and they're like yeah no
we'll pass I'm like like guys it doesn't
hurt just do it like how do you know go
shcks I I I felt like this is important
they're going to especially some of
these guys were really on the trajectory
of integrating within the
community and they're going to find
themselves getting married and raising
kids in a Jewish community and send Kiva
and they should have the basics down
have a proper
bris and I'm trying to convince them and
finally they agree they're going to go
to the Mo's house who lived locally and
he's going to help help them out this
moel this moel looked like a very
serious guy but when you get to know him
he was great personality as most moel
are right
um but you look at him you might be
intimidated you see a rabbi with a long
Gray beard with the side locks and black
coat and he's you know and they're like
doing this guy's house he says he turns
to them he says okay guys pull your
pants down and he pulls out this huge
[Laughter]
machete they panicked they freaked out
he put down the knife he's like I'm
kidding I'm
kidding um it was a be it was a
beautiful way to clear the it was a
beautiful way to clear the
air um but what I learned from this
Rabbi is an
incredible ability to connect with
people in a very human way
not being too holy for people not being
on the high horse being genuine being
real just being a real normal good
person that people want to
call um and again I think this is true
in the Rabin it's true with Raba but
it's true with any leadership
position
um sometimes there's going to be high
level for certain rabbis of certain
stature there is going to be distance
there is going to be space there is
going to be
maybe reverence or
respect but if together with that and
I'm not saying that there shouldn't be
but if together with
that there can be a little bit of
humanness I mean this is what rabby zra
did he didn't make himself like a nazer
he didn't make himself separate from the
world he didn't put on this facade of
makeup metaphorical makeup and he had
Clear Vision was able to just see people
for who they are and see things for what
they were he was a man of truth this is
the Mah's
interpretation another
interpretation the context by which
they're praising rabi zra remember the
context in the T if you look back it
says it's discussing what they used to
sing to the brides in praising Brides
because there's a concept of praising
brides and they' apply that same praise
to rabi
Z in other words the praise that you're
giving to a bride she doesn't even need
makeup they're giving that same praise
to RAB Z he doesn't even need
makeup what's the connection what's the
connection between Rab's
scholarship joining the rabet and a
bride doesn't need makeup so here's what
one of the commentaries explained
there's a commentary called
the which I'll be honest I'm unfamiliar
with but I saw this
quoted he says why would a bride and
what's a situation would a bride not
have
makeup either she doesn't need it but
most Brides will always wear makeup you
know that's a big day that you're
preparing for so when would you not wear
makeup if you're unprepared for the
wedding right shotgun wedding no I'm if
if there's some sort of situation where
I don't know God forbid PR I don't know
there was a situation where you had to
get the wedding done
quickly um you had that during Co by the
way right A lot of these little G
weddings you quickly get a
minion um you had you you have
situations throughout history where you
don't have a lot of time to actually
prepare for the wedding so what they're
saying that rabi zra like this bride
doesn't need makeup he didn't
prepare for the
rabit well what does that mean what
business does he have getting rabinal
tests in ordination if he's not
prepared you know why he's not prepared
because he wasn't studying to be a rabbi
he was studying because that's what Jews
do we
study and maybe I'll be a rabbi maybe I
won't what's the
difference in other words he was
studying Torah because the Torah has
inherent
value he wasn't being studious as a
profession as Jews there's a mitzvah for
every an obligation for every single Jew
to study
Torah and that obligation isn't if you
want to become a rabbi by study the
Torah that obligation is study the Torah
because you're a Jun and some people
will advance their study to the point
while they're where they'll achieve a
certain level of
authority this is very different than
the way we treat other knowledge because
if you want to become a doctor you're
going to go to medical school and if you
don't want to become a doctor you're not
going to read those Textbooks For Fun
you'll just text your doctor email your
doctor and if you have a legal question
you'll text your lawyer you're not going
to read them for fun if you don't want
to become a lawyer same with any other
profession but the Torah is not just
information it's values it's God's
values and the Torah is literally God's
way of sharing vulnerability with us
because when are we most vulnerable with
people when we're willing to
share things that we care about in
detail
we all have our own shtick and when
people get to learn about that shtick in
detail and we're comfortable sharing
that our
desires that that that deepens the
relationship this is what God does he
shares the details of his desires the
Torah you know right before we were
recording this we had the discussion
about Titus right what exactly does God
want and how does he want it when he
wants the tius when he doesn't want this
there's details there's specific details
to everything because this is God's way
of sharing
what he really wants uh deep down
inside so with rabiz Z's attitude of not
preparing to be a rabbi but studying
because that's what Jews do became a
certain praise he wasn't just trying to
score a
position this is just who he
is it's literally uh an
identity I I think this ties back to to
to genuine genuinity I don't know if
that's a word authenticity
there we go that's
authenticity because it's not my
profession I'm a rabbi it's a who
studies
Torah I wasn't the rabbi it also
study it's a
passion there's
a the talud points out something
interesting a different section of the
talmud track at
Yuma where it points out that the arc
in the temple in the base of mikash the
ark that
contained the tablets the
L what was the arc made out
of it was a box essentially right that
had the corvium on top right almost lost
my microphone it was a box that had um
three sections to it it was three boxes
in one like stacked within each
other the outer layer was made out of
solid
gold then there was an inner layer of
wood
and then that inner layer of wood was
also lined with
gold and the Tom says
well I guess why why the gold on the
inside you have wood because maybe it's
more durable whatever it is you have
gold on the outside so it looks
beautiful but why do you need gold on
the inside to contain the Torah nobody's
going to see it who cares right that's
where you can cheap
out the talud says I'll say it in the
Hebrew and then I'll translate it we
derive from
here any scholar any Torah scholar whom
his inside and his outside aren't
aligned we're not going to call that a
scholar if you're going to display gold
on the outside and you're containing
that toorah and representing its beauty
on the outside but you're not living it
on the
inside that's not good
leadership if it's a
profession that check in check out of
that's not good
leadership it has to be an
identity and the truth is not everybody
listening to this has the trajectory or
aspiration to become a rabbi but it
applies to leadership it applies to you
know it says
in get yourself a rabbi but if you
translate it l
literally make yourself a r make
yourself a
rabbi we have to take leadership and
ownership of Our Lives of our
homes and it's important that it's
there's a a g there's an authenticity to
it where it is a reflection of who I
am and if not a reflection of who I am
at least to some degree shapes who I
am but not just a behavior because I'm a
Jew and this is what I'm supposed to be
displaying because this is what I need
people to see because I need to keep my
job or because I need to keep my social
status because I want people this is a
relationship it has to be very real on
the
inside we've studied the Tanya
together and we know from the Tanya that
this is literally where where the whole
Tanya is trying to bring us to an
authentic relationship with God that is
deep on the inside that's meaningful on
the inside where
there's deep
connectivity and not just
behavior and this is what
RAV RAB zra
displayed RAB zra wasn't preparing a
speech for an event right he wasn't
preparing for a wedding as it were
didn't have the makeup on he wasn't
preparing for an event he wasn't
preparing for he studied Torah right the
best
teachers are the ones who not who aren't
just preparing for a class but but are
studying so much that they have
information to draw from to prepare for
a
class because with that comes a high
level of
authenticity okay explanation number
three found in a book called The another
commentary and he says what is this
analogy of RAB Z not wearing makeup
RAB Z not wearing um eyeliner and RAB Z
not braiding his hair as if you'd expect
him to do that what's the analogy
here he used to say things as they were
he used to speak clearly and used to
teach the Torah as it
was without sugar coating
things which is an incredible quality a
very difficult
quality because a person who's in a
position of leadership has what's called
an occupational
hazard that occupational hazard is if I
tell you everything you want to hear you
don't need me and if I tell you what you
need to here but it ain't popular you're
GNA fire
me right it's a it's a very difficult
balance to be in right like Gro Markus
said what do I want to be part of a club
that wants me as a member like
what right there there's this
occupational hazard there's
this but rabi zero is genuine he didn't
care he didn't sugarcoat his words he
didn't put makeup and try to cushion
what he was saying I'm not saying he was
harsh
necessarily but he saw his position as a
rabbi as somebody studying Torah as
somebody who needs to be an ambassador
of truth and not just there to say what
people want to
hear and he was praised for
that I'm just suggesting or positing
this idea because I haven't seen it
anywhere the fact that rabiza is the
story this praise is just opposed to
praising a bride with the same
qualities maybe it's this authenticity
and
honesty that keeps marriages
going where it's founded on Truth not
just founded
on on a
fleeting on makeup you makeup you wash
off right and I I I don't mean people
shouldn't be presentable that's not what
I'm trying to say but there's a
certain genuine there's a certain
authenticity where somebody can get up
and literally just say things the way
the way they are and a way that's not
offensive and a way that people
appreciate where you don't have to be a
politician a rabbi or a leader is not a
politician which means somebody who
needs to appeal to to
voters um Raba wasn't that person RAB
was the type of person who is
just very real he just just says it like
it is he shares the Torah he shares the
values and he's not trying
to to dress it
up okay that's all I got for today
that's my story and I'm sticking to it