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Text-Based Tanya Class—Week #14
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Concluding chapter 7, we discuss the power of teshuvah to transform past sins into merits. We also discuss how to rectify the spiritual damage caused by the emission of seed in vain as well as forbidden relations. This class is recorded live at Chabad of the Five Towns. For more classes from Rabbi Shais Taub visit https://www.soulwords.org/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rabbi_shais_taub Support our work at: https://www.soulwords.org/donate/ --OR-- PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/soulwordspayments CashApp: https://cash.app/$soulwords Venmo: https://venmo.com/u/soulwords
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i'll tell you something interesting
at least i found it interesting is that
the last time we went through tanya
it was a little bit different style of a
class
um we weren't reading every word inside
but uh
when we came to chapter seven
we did chapters seven and eight together
in one class
so we had one class where we condensed
seven and eight
and i put them together and basically
said
these are the classes about clipper and
uh
why prolong it why do i speak about
clipa longer than necessary it's
interesting because
today we're starting our third class
just in chapter seven
so we went from last time putting seven
and eight both into one chapter
to uh chapter seven itself on it on its
own
taking three chapters that's the three
lessons
so just to to review
we were talking about clipas noiga about
what literally translated
means the luminescent of the shiny husk
it's shining because you can see the
godly spark within it that can be
accessed
and what we're really describing is
everything mundane
that can be
channeled to some type of godly purpose
okay
so
we spoke about
when that opportunity is squandered and
when we engage in mundane things without
any
intent for the sake of heaven and how it
actually
causes the experience to become
um
lower than neutral
and how it becomes
animalistic
and i think that's basically where we
left off
yeah is that where we left off
oh and we spoke about the the terms
osser and mutter that was an important
concept yeah
yeah tied down and untied right
so the things relationships
right we spoke yeah we spoke about food
we spoke about relationships there are
things that can be elevated
that's right that's right this we could
call this whole time you shared that
what you didn't learn in bass rifka
okay
all right
so uh
so we said yeah yeah so just to to
back up and the the last line that we
read we said when something is user
forbidden it's tied down remember we
gave that whole long marshal about is it
tied down because it's forbidden or is
it forbidden because it's tied down
and it caused a little bit of confusion
but just for the sake of uh
hopefully confusing you more uh
we concluded that it is not tied down
because it's forbidden it's forbidden
because it's tied down in other words it
is intrinsically tied down it's
intrinsically
uh
useless it can't be elevated therefore
hashem saves you the heartbreak and the
wasted time and energy and resources and
tells you sweetheart leave it alone walk
on by
okay
so we said these things that are also
that are forbidden and therefore um
what we know about them is that they are
intrinsically
not able to be elevated
that they're not gonna they they're
gonna just sit there until we said until
hashem will remove the spirit of
impurity from the world
hashem says i
will remove the spirit of impurity from
the world
we will not
be able to do it we can only elevate the
mundane
but we can't elevate
that which is uh
off limits okay
so that's where we left off
yeah so
in that case
what you ate did not become elevated
correct
right so we did have a little bit of a
discussion last week at the end of class
where we were
asking just to refresh people's memory
what's the status
of food that was consumed to save a life
unkosher food non-kosher food that was
consumed in order to save a life
yeah
so uh yeah it's it's a little bit uh
complicated
but
let's simplify it by saying in that case
it is not us sir
i don't know how
yeah so
in an indirect way it is elevated and by
the way the these these concepts are not
as simple as we present them i mean
elsewhere in citizen talks about you
know you can't eat a horse but you could
ride a horse to go do a mitzvah
[Laughter]
so it's not it's not it's not quite so
simple but
for for our purposes here and again
remember that lakutayamarim the first
volume of tanya is not its job is not to
explain exhaustively
all of these mystical concepts it's it's
here to give us
um
enough information that we can navigate
our own personal growth
so
a lot of these concepts are not
developed here in tanya
fully they're developed in other places
in cities
so the question of the status of
forbidden food that becomes permissible
in a in a pickup netflix in a
life-saving
uh context it's uh
it's a little bit uh not not not so
straightforward
we can get into that discussion but uh
i wanna i wanna focus on the next thing
he speaks about because it is it is very
very important in fact i might even say
it's probably the most
important question
in terms of understanding our
relationship with the forbidden
and and that is
after the fact retroactively
is there any way
to
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redeem
that which is
technically irredeemable
so i i want to focus on this idea here
the the last thing we said as i as i
said but i'll repeat again is that there
are certain things they're just
irredeemable that's what's called us
forbidden
literally tied down
and we can't deal with it at the end of
time hashem will come in he'll clean up
that which we could not clean up fine
now
the next line
he starts he says i or alternatively
he just said there's stuff that's
irredeemable there's no way to
elevate it
only hashem will come and clean it up
when meshiach comes
or
or another possibility
he does chuva that is so great
how do we translate chuva penitence
but really its return
returns to hashem in such a great
manner
shiz dennis nasa like kazakhstan
that his sins there are different words
in the holy tongue for sin this dynasty
is probably the worst word for sin it
means wanting sins purposeful sins
sometimes you made a mistake zdinas are
not mistakes
mean i knew what i was doing i did it
out of spite it's the worst kind of sins
yeah what
yeah the worst type of sin and even
those sins can become merits
now what does this mean that
the worst kind of sins can become merits
i understand that it gets expunged from
the record
it won't be held against you
i understand that
it can be uh
that the negativity could be overlooked
or even wiped away
but to say the negativity can become
positive
how does that work and it that is what
he's saying so how does that work so in
other words
we've been discussing the prospect
of
gamoclippusatimaeus the irredeemable
utterly unclean clippers
and we said
sort of categorically hey the definition
of them is that they're irredeemable so
if you get involved with them nothing's
nothing good is going to ever come of it
but then we said this big asterisk like
oh hold on though there's there's
one caveat yeah retroactively there is
such a thing where there's a chiva not a
regular chiva but a really big chuva
that could go and redeem the
irredeemable
and turn the negative into positive to
turn the wanton sin into an actual
spiritual plus
okay
so this is what we're discussing now
how does that happen
okay let's continue
first of all as he begins to define this
chuva
he says it's a chuva me ava it's a chuva
that comes out of love
as opposed to what
fear
obviously there are different
motivations for chiva but the two
general motivations would be and the two
general emotions like we spoke about in
chapter three the two general emotional
axes the right and the left love and awe
so the two general motivations for for
chuva would either be
out of love a desire to come closer to
hashem or out of
fear fear of punishment
fear of judgment
ultimately the deepest fear fear of
separation
here we're talking about the chiva that
comes from love desire to become close
to hashem or to get closer to hashem
moomka daleeba from the depths of his
heart
with abundant love
and yearning pining
the nephesho
and a soul that is longing ladovka is
barrack to cleave to hashem
so that the motivation for the chuva is
i want to get closer to hashem i'm
yearning to get close to hashem
this thing
this blot on my record
this is a separation
this is keeping me
away from hashem i don't want to have it
intercede between me and hashem and so
my incredible love for hashem is causing
me now
to
reassess
my feelings about this
sin
what happens here it's it's a remarkable
concept
obviously i did chiva i'm not going to
sin again
i'm done with that
not only i won't do it again i regret
that i ever did it
right because you could say i won't do
it again but i'm glad i know what it's
like
this says no i wish i never did it
but it's even deeper than that
i wish i never did it
and i'm in pain right now about the fact
that this past
experience is coming between me and her
shop
not guilt pain
i want to be close to asher
and
i know
that i did something
that rejected that relationship i told
hashem get lost
even if it was for one second i told him
hey
get out of my life for a second i got to
do what i want to do
well i hate that i hate that i have that
in my history i hate that i have that
in my story
not because of guilt not good because
that that moment represents a moment of
separation a moment of of rejecting the
relationship and i want to be completely
close to a show
so now how do i feel about that
spiritual failure that moment of
spiritual failure how do i feel about it
well i i i feel like
i feel like it's a
it's a threat to my present closeness
with asha
and when i think about it
it instills me with a feeling of a need
to push
to get closer to hashem
and therefore
here here's
here's the pertinent idea
the practical effect
like the the bottom line
what is the sin
it is you have to be very careful here
because we're not justifying the sin
we're not glorifying the sin
what we're saying right now at this
moment
in the present
what effect is this sin having on me
the practical effect is it's actually
spurring me on to desire closeness with
hashem even more
than
had i not
had that experience
so was it a positive experience or a
negative experience it was a negative
experience but
but it causes me well it doesn't
directly cause me to come close to
hashem but it causes me to feel
a greater desire
or a more intense desire to fight that
overcome it
and come closer to hashem and the way he
describes it
is thirst he calls it thirst
if we continue here inside but
hashem
it's like a person
in a parched
who's thirsting his soul is thirsting
for our shape
can anyone have that
experience with hashem
then they sin
you're asking if there are prerequisites
on this like only certain people could
even have this
experience have we all had that
experience to some degree yeah yeah i
mean
look he's describing a category here
he's talking about a not just a regular
trivia he calls it a great chuva
so
there are two ways i could teach this
one way i could say is this is
describing something that you you've
never experienced
maybe someday you'll experience it the
other way i could teach is i could say
it's on a continuum
and great is a is a qualitative
word
and uh
as good as good as basin especially you
know it's
i i prefer to teach it the the latter
way so instead of saying
i don't know this is some type of a
category that we're going to
learn about but not necessarily uh
relate to
let's learn it like this
we all know what it means
that
a moment
of
of failure
becomes a motivation
for greater success we all know what
that means
so that
in in the end and in the end analysis
you look back and you say well
was that
was that a net gain
i mean at the moment it was a loss
but in the big picture
it was
it was productive
so i think we can all relate to that
experience
i don't feel
okay so you're making a very valid point
which is that if somebody's
understanding of chuva
is guilt-based
they may not end up coming to this kind
of chuva
now
yeah
yeah i would i would yeah i would agree
with that
so
so it's important that we're learning
this right it's important that we're
learning this and it's important to
understand
that there are different types of chuva
and like you say if a person doesn't
feel
that the relationship with hashem is
based on love then where would they even
get the idea
that they should return to hashem out of
love yeah from from a context of love
isn't the notion isn't the notion of
real to sugar
the fact that you understand you've done
something wrong you've given another
opportunity to do the same thing don't
do it
and because of your love for hashem and
and then you move on
that's the only way that you can really
be
no you can be forgiven even if you don't
do chuva out of love see see that's the
that's the point let's go back let's
repeat this
this dinos
negative
the the negative uh
occurrence
the moment of sin
not only is expunged erased cancelled
out
that you could do with regular chova
no it gets repurposed and transformed
into an asset
into something positive
because remember the context we're
speaking about here how to redeem the
irredeemable so he said you can't that's
the whole purpose
that's the whole that's the whole
meaning of irritable means what part of
your redemption but they did not
understand here the only means it's
irredeemable it's not it's done it's
done you cannot redeem this if hashem
says that this is us
it means tied down that's it there's
nothing can be done with it
except
after the fact and you can't engineer
this and you can't do it on purpose and
call me shayme
anyone who says i'll purposely sin and
then do chuva
it won't work for him
but after the fact
now he fell into that which is
irredeemable
if it so happens that his feelings about
that relationship with the irredeemable
becomes a driving motivation
to have an intense relationship
an intense and loving relationship with
hashem today
well then after the fact what was the
was it a net gain or a net loss it was a
net gain
because it spurs you want to do because
it spurs you on so he call he calls it
thirst
he calls it thirst he says like a person
in a parched desert who feels thirsty
let's continue yeah
yeah but at the same time we gotta talk
about it so your brain should know about
it too
okay
what makes you able
to love hashem
your soul it's embedded in you it's it's
it's your hard wiring
what increases
the odds that you'll actually
act on that
your education the fact that you are
told that it's possible
okay there's musical talent and then
there's
music lessons
so the fact that you come to this class
already within the shama you already
have the ability for children ava but
the fact that we're talking about it
increases the likelihood that you'll
actually do that
two things okay
so he describes he describes it as a
thirst
and now
it's almost
continuing the metaphor
until now
his soul
had been in a parched desert a land of
death
spiritually
which means the other side which we
defined in chapter 6 as anything that's
not for the sake of hashem
utterly distant from the light of
hashem's face
so the sin
is
being distant putting oneself into a
position of being distant from hashem
removing oneself from the light
of hashem
yesterday
and now
his soul is thirsting for hashem with
greater intensity than the souls of the
tadikya
so ostensibly at sadiq
has a great desire for hashem
and we haven't really defined sadiq yet
we'll define sadiq in chapter 10. but
we spoke a little bit about sadiq in
chapter one but we didn't really explain
who they are but we know they're pretty
a pretty big deal
so ostensibly that sadik has a great
desire for hashem and what we're saying
here is that the person who was in a
spiritual desert
and
becomes aware of the fact they're in a
desert and there and they're thirsting
for reconnection with hashem
their
desire
for closeness with hashem becomes more
powerful
than even that desire
for closeness with hashem that is felt
by the tsaddiki
so then you have to ask yourself a
question
again i mean i'm repeating the same
point over and over but
what was
what was the effect of the sin
you take that sin out of his story
of course if you would ask him do you
wish it never happened yeah i wish it
never happened i hate it i hate that it
happened okay we're gonna take it out of
your story it never happened
ah
but now there's no parched desert
there's no thirst now you don't have
that intense longing that desire
so it's this irony it's this catch-22 i
wish that it never happened
but in a certain way
it's the greatest thing that happened to
my relationship with hashem because the
net effect is
that's what's spurring me on to desire
with such intensity
to be close to a shot
well it's a very specific kind of pain
it's not just any pain
pain
it's not any pain it's a very specific
pain
it's it's it's
the pain of feeling
remorse it's not just remorse because
you could do that without love you could
have remorse without love
it is specific it's not just regret no
no
it is specifically the pain of
separation from
my beloved
so love means a desire for closeness
if we could simplify what is love love
is a desire for closeness
this thing
is the opposite of closeness
i had an opportunity
to be with my beloved
i told my beloved go take a hike while i
go have some fun
and at the moment i said it it seemed to
make sense it seemed to
seem to be a good idea at the time
and then afterwards whether it's
immediately after or it's years after i
look back and say why did i do that why
did they tell my beloved go take a hike
while i could go have a fleeting
experience that has no value to me now
and it's not just the remorse the regret
ah
what a waste of time it's more
the uh the pain
of
and and and even if i'll spend every
moment now with my beloved
i will never get back that squandered
moment where we could have had a moment
of closeness
and we'll always have as part of our
story
that i rejected my beloved
and it it it gets to me it's hurting me
i don't want that
what can i do about it there's nothing
how do i take it back and i said it
happened it's done already it happened i
hate that moment of of
of distance
so
the fact that i hate it and wish it
never existed
is causing me now to have a greater
intensity to want to be close to hashem
so that if
the irony is if my wish were granted and
you were okay fine we'll take it out of
your story it never existed
but then i wouldn't have the intensity
of desire to be close to whichever that
i have right now
person feels that hashem created the
guilt
the distance
oh that's a different that's that's
different
that's different you're talking about a
person who feels
you you're talking about what up when a
person feels
where was god during this moment of
when i was going through my hardest time
and i felt you know hashem was hiding
from me
yeah
yeah we're not talking about that right
now
[Laughter]
look
this this is like this is like marriage
therapy
right now
we got to take one thing at a time
okay
right you know the sometimes
we're going to talk about what he did
sometimes we're going to talk about what
she did right now we're talking about
clear instances where there's no
question
that the distance
was my fault
i caused the distance now
you're raising a very good
point sometimes i feel this distance in
the relationship with hashem
and i look at him like hey
i wanted closeness you didn't return my
call
you didn't call me back
okay we'll talk about that later
chapter 27
yeah
a
yeah i mean
you're speaking i'm not sure which
you're saying this as a metaphor
for closeness that we call i mean
distance that we caused or distance
that he caused
yeah that's true too
okay let's not get too philosophical
here okay
we're describing here
what is actually a psychological
phenomenon it's not it's not that
mystical it's not that hard to wrap your
mind around
um i had
a negative experience
but the net
effect of that negative experience is
positive
on a practical level
yeah yeah
all right
to my mottom zal
let's continue like the famous saying
of our sages
in the place
where penitents stand
even the truly righteous cannot stand
what does that mean that the intensity
of desire of longing for closeness that
is caused by the past separation
causes the the balchuva to have a
greater yearning for hashem than if he
had never had that
that that separation in his story
and the titan don't have that
we say
that the past misdeeds become merits not
just that they're erased or canceled but
they become transformed they become
merits
because they bring him to this
intense love
so far so good
okay
avo however
me ava zoo
shiva that is not coming from this kind
of love
although it is proper
meaning
it's perfectly acceptable
and hashem will forgive him
meaning it is erased from the record
they're not going to bring it up in
court anymore
because
nicely
it doesn't turn the sins into merits
just erases them it cancels them
and that negativity won't be retrieved
from its place in clipper until the end
of time when hashem
gathers up all the irredeemable stuff
that we were talking about before
that's how we started we
we started by saying there's stuff that
you can't clean up you can't deal with
hashem will deal with it at the end of
time
so now we're back to that idea again if
it's regular trova then okay fine so
it's expunged from your record move on
no one's gonna hold it over your head
but as far as the the negative you know
the spiritual
uh loss that was entailed
the only one who could repair that this
hashem and you know he'll do that
when meshech comes you you just move on
don't don't look back we're done just
move forward
all right
now in case you didn't have enough of
this last week
this is more of the
the stuff that they skip in base rifka
the vitality
that is in
the seed
that is that is yeah that is issued in
vain
although
when the uh
the seed is issued in vain
so what happens to that highest to that
vitality
it's it's a very powerful
energy i mean it has the energy to to
give life to create a baby
and now it's wasted
so that energy becomes
captured within shaolis clippers of
timaeus
yeah within the irredeemable clippers
but you could get it back just with
regular chuva you could
redeem that that energy
so the seed was wasted
and the energy becomes captive
to the shallow clippers of the mayors
and the person who wastes the seed does
chova nachina just regular chiva regular
chiva means that's not good i'm not
going to do that anymore
regular chili
want to get into the technicalities
of uh
what this is
ignorance of the law is not an excuse
okay everyone i mean without me being
explicit everyone understands that we're
speaking about something that is a
uniquely male biological phenomenon
right now
yes
right now
yes
so uh
he took the
this
amazingly powerful spiritual energy
that's in the seed
and you wasted it so now that energy
becomes relegated to the shallowest
clippers of timaeus how do you get it
out of there chuva what kind of sugar
regular chuva regular chive is good
enough
also intense
kavanaugh
during krishna shala lamita when you say
bedtime shma again this is male stuff
this is not the guys well this is on the
guys yeah yeah there's not the guys
but why is it only on a man if a woman's
participating in this
not they're not always participating
okay
so this is
so this is specifically where where
there was not
a woman participating and we'll speak
about when there is a woman
participating
it always astounds me by the way how
people can get through the system i'm
saying in khabad where they learn tanya
and not know how to deal
with
this aspect of
the human experience
because it's dealt with so
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like openly in
either they skip it over or they they
they just go really fast
okay
so a male wasted seat
that's a terrible
um
misappropriation of of of spiritual
potential
this energy
is now being
given over
into the hands of the clipper
it's a terrible thing okay how does he
get it back out after he realizes
shouldn't have done that
so the alternative says
that means just i wish i didn't do that
and he should have intense cavanaugh
when he says the bedtime shema the
arizona talks about it
um
hints to it
very intensely
it's like he's holding a double-edged
sword
to you know get away the bad guys
you like that mike
depiction of the sword
okay look at my dungeons and dragons
i hold this forward
hold it up yeah you gotta hold the
cylinder
to kill the bodies
we're not talking about physical bodies
here but the you know there's iron
cleave there's light and vessel
to to kill the bodies of the hussein of
the extraneous forces
of ush the highest shiba tipus
that became
a lavish that did that enclosed the
vitality of this seed
and then the the highest the vitality is
able to be released and to to go up
um
like those who know kabbalah understand
therefore
here's an interesting concept
where is the prohibition
of wasting seed stated clearly in torah
clearly
nowhere forbidden relationships are
listed
forbidden relationships are listed
but it doesn't specifically say
the wasting of seed
outside
of a relationship with anybody else
so he says
that's why wasting seed
isn't mentioned
along with the other prohibited
relationships
you know why
because it's in a different league
in certain ways it's worse
in certain ways
each one has an aspect which is
more egregious
than the other in different different
perspectives which we'll speak about
momentarily
af
wasting seed is actually worse in some
ways in some ways than engaging in
a forbidden
relationship
the goddess
volume wise the amount of negative
spiritual forces that are
put out through wasting seed are are
greater
than when engaging in forbidden
relations yesterday
it's more than forbidden relations so
you want to talk quantitatively
what causes the greatest amount of
spiritual pollution
wasting seed
and that's why it's not even listed
among them because it's so much worse
quantitatively speaking
watch how he explains the difference
okay
rock
forbidden relations
adds
vitality to a greater
clipper a worse clipper that means
qualitatively
okay what does that mean that it's a
qualitatively greater clipper he
explains
regular can't pull it out
can't retrieve that highest
so here's the difference you have the
the life force that that is
wasted
through the emission of of seed in vain
that actually causes quantitatively much
more spiritual pollution
but qualitatively
it's not that hard to get it back
how do you get it back you just realize
i don't i don't want to do that anymore
i feel bad that i did it i'm done you
say a good kris michelle alamito and you
can
get that life force back
but when there's an actual forbidden
relation
where you have two people who are
forbidden from each other actually
acting
in an intimate way
now
qualitatively it's worse and how does
that express itself that regular chuva
can't get can't retrieve
the the vitality that's in the seed
yes
it's dangerous
unless he does that level of trivia that
we just described earlier where it's the
level
where sins become merits but regular
trivia won't work with wasting seed
regular chivalr will work
with giving seed over to a forbidden
partner regular chiva doesn't work
will work
silva malva will work because chivame
can turn the negativity into positivity
so the person could say that that
relationship that he had
where
that moment of of of acting that way
separated him from hashem and now that
that separation from hashem becomes the
impetus to this constant yearning for
closeness to hashem so then again it's a
net gain
what causes him to yearn for closeness
with hashem is that
is that forbidden relation
that he was involved in
and now he explains the mechanics of it
i don't think it's that difficult to
grasp this at least
on one level
why is it irretrievable or so difficult
i shouldn't say irretrievable but
barring chuva mahava
why is it
so difficult to redeem
that experience even through regular
chuva
he says nation nicola to be a say
denuclear declipa don't be scared by the
kabbalistic terms yasoid de nuqva de
clipper that your sight is
the ninth sphere nukfa is the feminine
aspect
clipper is clipper you know negativity
so
what happens
in forbidden relations
there's a spiritual
uh entity called you say the nook for
the clipper you say just means the
interface
it's how one thing sort of latches on to
another thing you say it's also called
khabros or connection
at any rate when you have forbidden
relations
so the seed
was received and absorbed by
not just physically but spiritually as
well
there's two parallel things going on
right now there's a spiritual and a
physical thing so in forbidden relations
so the seed was received absorbed by
this what we call usoid the look for the
clipper i'm a cabela's vaquelette
and it
it receives it and it absorbs it
and now you want to go get that that
that vitality back but the clipper is
holding on to it
machine can visit
not so when the seed was simply wasted
nook for the clip because there's no
spiritual recipient in that case
again you could understand this
purely spiritually or you could
understand its physical parallel i don't
think it's that difficult to understand
what he's describing here
if the seed was wasted in a way where
there was no recipient
so in a certain way it's worse the
quantity the volume of pollution of
spiritual pollution is greater
but qualitatively it's not that hard to
get it back
you just do regular chuva and good
kavanagh
if however it was forbidden relations
so actually volume wise quantity wise
it's not as bad as wasting seed
but
qualitatively it's much more difficult
to do anything about it after the fact
because there's a recipient that
absorbed
that energy and now you can't just go
and get it back
didn't absorb it it's
hovering over it
physically the way i mean obviously
these are
we're using physical words to describe
spiritual phenomena but
in zero voltolo the clippers
relationship with it is its mock if it's
hovering over it
when there's forbidden relations then
it's not hovering it's a it's it
received it it absorbed it
rather what happens
with zero levatola is it says that the
powers and the forces of the clipper
they surround it
they're maubish the highest of the
tippas
they're surrounding it as opposed to it
being absorbed within
within them
what is a crooked thing that cannot be
made straight zesha bala herrera
moms or somebody who has forbidden
relations and they have offspring from
the forbidden relations
because then
even chivame is not going to work
anymore
you have shalaylahal is the highest
dosha because you can't get the highest
back why not
because
that energy already became materialized
as the body of this offspring
so
when it was just in a completely
spiritual state it sort of influx
and you can
you can deal with it through
emotional rearrangements that happen
inside of your heart
you felt this way about the experience
now you feel a completely different way
about the experience and that's
sufficient to
change the location of the energy to
take it back
to redeem it but when the energy already
materialized and became
you know the life force from this seed
became this child
how you're gonna get it back
so then it
makes it a little bit more difficult
to say the least okay
anyhow
is this stuff uh it's a tough glass
understood yeah it's tough yeah
last time no no we didn't learn it in
detail
now i said at the beginning class last
time we went through the tanya we did
seven and eight in one class
and at this time
we took three classes just to do chapter
seven well look at this class look at
this class yeah anything else about this
yeah so it's completely irredeemable at
this point there's nothing you could do
to redeem that
it's not like
the the never say never
but i don't know if i want to get into
the uh
the improper relationships not the
um you know the
the scene in the veins right yeah that's
the difference
yeah
anything else
we're good for now yeah but only if it
is