#9 09 02 23 16 Babby Gantz

turn of and like by by after turn of everyone's already like you did turn of right the first day no I'm saying it progresses and then it's you know you know you go to you go to and then you go to n and I'm like I'm getting nervous you know it's like building up I hear you very much and then we went um we went to um AIT one you know and Bobby what are you doing we going this who sister I don't I could do that Bobby you know that right know you know but I have the R so you know okay so then we go to aitz one you get the tour gu with the headphones I just want is D I'm sorry sense too I'm on the phone with with my Bobby Helen asking her which uh show the bunker she was in yeah wow that's crazy it's ridiculous and I'm on the phone with her right and I ask Ari and AR already knows which one I'm supposed to go to cuz he said his grandmother was right there also make a by the way make a long story short we're already back you know how far the whole thing is I know like we're already back at the entrance so I'm like where's lger 14 goes oh that's back right back in the beginning I know I'm like whatever you're supposed to tell me what 14 is in the beginning by the answer no it's by the right by the crime really so um I still rocks I have rocks oh we took a brick okay took a break I didn't take anything I I didn't have the so then one guy starts talking friend of mine mayor hi made it see him by the crematorium he starts talking you know he's giving a speech and he's talking about his grandmother that you know she's like has dementia and you know and she's crying for her brothers and sisters right and like you know and it's like it's like essentially like it's a finger that got cut off and it's a wound that like it's still there you know and then it it just all hit me like a ton of bricks in my face like this concept of like you know I have a kid and you said you know this is your Nama like there's no n there's no all it was was a n right and like my whole like mindset you know hit me in the face of like I had like I had it all wrong there is no like all it is is a to everything that no I'll tell you though no I'm saying from that element us for sure but for people who survive BBY people who survive the Holocaust right they always say you know right it's it's in Thea in the of Hitler you know they say when Hitler you know right he killed himself you speak English by the way mentioned that's what I heard the what he kill him his people killed him no he killed himself because he was not right but no I'm saying like this when people say so there's a lot of Holocaust Survivors who who build up families they say like it's an aoma on Hitler you agree with that you think it's an aoma I so I said I said to I said to for of real saying a point real saying that you can't take revenge so one second so what was the thing that hit me goes I I I use the word n come up until now right and I was say it to Bobby and I'd say it to my other grandmother i' would say it to zi and what do they say yes yes why cuz they had such a gius to to to create a a sense of safety and of this is you know VAR kite and and create a reality that wasn't such a ju opposition to what existed that whether you were right or wrong they told you you were right that's what I'm saying I do but I think I think when you say n it's not about the surv you know for him for the for the Val because I blow 5 year old M and most of the right right I tell what the v n revenge is not the right word n is like f you you tried to knock us out we're still here it's not like a Revenge thing so no so so to the person it's all my point was that that to these people they they went on as if as as and started new with all this baggage with all this you know tremendous amount of you know that would normally debilitate a normal individual but and all this that existed really gave them was a along the way oh my point is I never CRI like that before in my life it'll hit me like a ton of bricks I broke down and I was done so I I have with me so I I didn't C at all right there at the I'm saying like his words and it just all clicked and my mind just started racing and what happened with me was very interesting when I was in Poland so okay I'm still you so I didn't you know for some reason I'll tell you why you don't cry you don't cry because you're not connected by the end of the day right now it's just it's land you know whatever it is it's but in in myid danic in the concentration camp so they have a place there which I didn't know existed till I went you know the pile of bones over there so that's crazy after the war the Russians came into Germany into into Poland and they gathered from the creatum whatever was left you think they gathered from the Creator how much ashes they killed and they made a pile of of Ash and Bones some bones it's like it's been exposed to the they they don't want to bury it that's the whole problem no but the area up like I didn't know it exists and you come to the thing you see a mountain 30t high 30 ft high of Ash and in between you see bones so I cried there but when I lost it it was interesting for me like you have every time you going you're like also daving and think all the names R and right o you know so I I only knew I only knew that after I went after I went to Poland that what that Bobby's parents were killed in ashwoods too oh you didn't know that either right I didn't know that that your parents were killed in Ashwood the second Ashwood there two ASW and and I didn't know that when I was in Poland I didn't know now if I go back now knowing that that happened I probably it was very interesting I and as as crazy as aitz was um so Bobby Helen told me so she my grand Bobby Helen was in aitz and then she was moved to Germany to do to for labor into Germany after Germany they she was in um uh Bergen Bon it was Bal said that was worse than aitz why why because aitz had the crematoriums so everything was so to say you didn't smell it you didn't see it the the the the people yeah they were just piles look like she said that you you couldn't even meaning aitz was we should never understand what but she says in comparison she says that was like you couldn't you didn't feel human walking past what existed over there it was like a different uh this is for the Val the red CRS came yeah and kids and they was everything you know the showers everything okay they working that's amazing it's not on in they you know they they were able to show that it was that's my that's what B says see there it looked like it was normal so to say looked like you could present like it was now only that one of the things that AR said to me that made so much sense right says what was the the whole of tarov right oh that was a thing I the kid experiment on the kids no but but then when they realize that you can't separate them so when you see those pictures of the mother holding a hand efficiency right but right so when you see the mother holding the hand in you know what they call Canada in that area it's like doing they should die better anyway so to me guys we get to me what hit me when I for some reason I was in lens all my thoughts and started down and cry I not I'm heed I never have I was people thought it was not normal I was just screaming my this is in raan's Cav I don't know what happened first time or second time first time second time second time was not the same never the same but I just I just I I heed so badly so I didn't it didn't hit me till I was so I said I said to AR I said okay so now can we do the trip backwards yeah you know like now everything like all the puzzle pieces finally fell in so now now I told my father I told if I have money I'm taking it no I'll never go I said we'll take it we figure it out like you only think your father would appreciate it he would say he doesn't want to go I know it is correct like father an experience just like my father there one that that was with us on this trip that actually went with his father he was with us this was the second time that he went and he said that it was very I would bring my father I agree with I how somehow I think what I real have to pull off is we have to pull both father we want to go with your father and your father you know and me and mother to our to our to look yeah and this is years ago yes with zi you got a planner going what happened you had tickets even yeah you had tickets I remember this got sick right no no no no is the the to the Twin Towers the Twin Towers holy crap I remember this yeah had tickets nobody wanted to travel afterwards everyone was very afraid to get on a plane I know I remember this you had tickets you had tickets the tickets the driver what was the plan what did you want to find out where did you want to go where was the plan to go L to you know was in oh they wanted to go to Romania also yeah Roman we going to pull this over we're going to pull our fathers in the summer it's a it's an option and they know you know your father look to D to to go you know restaurant I'm going to work on it an idea by the way I think they would go together you can take another 3 days in the summer no problem so let's let's let's talk a little bit where I I think we're holding I have to review the video I'll tell you yeah so we're really talking a little bit how when you arrived in arel right so you came from Greece right you were in Greece no not Greece um CPUs Cyprus right andus right8 what's amazing about Bobby's story which which we still have to get back to it I want you to see then while ask good is that is that every little Blick is a year you were a year in Cyprus right a year a year a whole year more not more as an 18-year-old girl was in Cyprus when you were by yourself but by how did you get to who did you go to cypess so we want to come to Israel yeah but who are you with nobody I mean the relatives no Rel it was the group of people that they saved from oh this is one Hungarian she was in a boat boat okay no not your father no no father no but you had EST you had the two kids with you right this was before before they get to death they came to Israel it was after the right so when you got to Cyprus is before yeah you know which one of your brothers became a general in the Russian army as the Russian right and as what was his name the he became the chief of police of the Russians of the Russians so this is a story The Russi and he wiped and he found the people exactly he found Jews who told on other Jews he lacked them off for Life yeah without questions yeah he just put him in jail forever you know he was so was so wanted to get them back he he he found Nazis he found Nazis yeah yeah that were still Nazis also that were in the GU to the bar you know to the to the bar yeah because they came home from a MH is right and between them you know was Nazis and he killed him or he put him in jail no don't kill him you know probably killed him how did how did he become I don't understand how did he become RI right SOI place where what city was that what city know transport people to hi her yeah it's before the war B who came who came they were Germans right okay she told yeah for and then you went then you met want they go back to her parents you know for this is get this he said that he said I really have to take you in I'm on vacation I don't want my vacation so El I'll catch you tell someone else to catch you this is a Hungarian guard piece train starts slowing down off the train the Train the train as was coming to which where was it coming into what what state not from from to where to next to the to the and what place was that R all right fine to get to Hungary was better you were in Romania at the time right you want to go into Romania which was better so you had to jump off the train before the Border I still don't get that I still don't get that no know people they pre-arranged people to amazing how they did that I don't know yeah it's amazing I understand but how did they know how do they arrange it right I asked you this last time Bobby how did they arrange speak English you guys made a plan right so so you're coming to the Romanian border from Hungary yeah no no no to the Hungarian border from Romania yeah you're in Romania or you're in Hungary in Hungary right so you're in Hungary yeah and I have to vote the the go to the border of Romania yes from Hungary to Romania right so before the Border as the train is pulling up you jumped off okay you have two kids with you yeah whose kids are those okay but when you jumped off there were people there to help you nobody was there they came she waited there and so who came how did they know you that's they went on the train they got St they got off now let's back up who arranged that this guy should see I'm learning new things first time I heard it referred to his papers I only heard F of fish BBY repeats the stories a lot I let to say it again because he always little no information who's the person who went along with you in the train who is that person a wait there was another guy also on the train already no this is after they jumped of the train went to someone's house H in the house and and Hey listen to story I heard this last time czy hid behind the and then you were behind it right the gun with the gun with the knife after I for what it's called yeah I know you talk nice thing have another side so you saw the knife sticking through the ha you know you were able to move around in the barn or you always stayed right there oh okay after J the TR yeah yeah and then where did you go from the barn where did you go from the barn from there yes okay I ask you a question I always wonder you have to go to the bathroom no I know there wasn't how did you wipe yourself when you had to go to the bathroom I want to know this to know I want to know what did people do how did you clean people clean themselves very simple I can tell use your hand and wipe it over this thing ising it wasn't human not human one one of the most interesting things that I remember Ari talking about was the latrines that's when they were friend no but that's where they exchanged so much information until they realized put another language in there speak you know you know all of a sudden Bobby Bobby's father was very rich really yes I never knew that yes your father was very rich he owned one he had one of the biggest houses right very wealthy he had you had an in how do you make a living he had I remember shash told me he had an inn like a hotel what was his exting right and you know no but you said your your your father own real estate you tell me right something you know like this but your mother came into the marriage with money tell they had real estate they you rented out places he had building he rent yeah she she ran the business right she ran the business you rich man who sat alert that's the bottom line hello but did either of them did any of did either of them have money coming into it prob was 14 at the time no just yeah I'm curious I know it was your grandparents did you did you right you didn't know any of your grandparents not one first of all my name is from my mother's uh mother mother I didn't okay see I didn't know that either check it out and my mother was the youngest and my father was the youngest did you know that what both Bobby's parents were the youngest so so she Bob's named after her mother's mother yeah W I didn't know that either I didn't know that one second you're your your mother's name was razel right raisel right and her mother's name was wow and your father's and when you got to ER Z's parents were in came to she they was also in Cyprus in cyp but that was z i I used to go to them right that was the second one first wife di when when she was 23 years old but I have you know in Cyprus I have so they are all his brothers s um first or any of them step Z and your uncle yob are brothers and the rest of them are are half Brothers half Brothers right B Helen said that's a Cyprus some relative they they own the Cyprus there they what they own it or he was the ran the show who she told me no I know um I think it was but she didn't wasn't C but they also had a similar story like uh you know in terms of General in the army they went back to their house after the war yeah yeah after the war they went Bobby Helen went back to the house with from uh I mean she from she's from also well Bobby hen was was good Z was very very very very nice very nice they were very very rich very he had he he had so much land he used to give he used to make a partnership I'll give you the land and I'll and you could be a sh meaning you could work the land