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#9 09 02 23 16 Babby Gantz
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turn of and like by by after turn of
everyone's already like you did turn of
right the first day no I'm saying it
progresses and then it's you know you
know you go to you go to and then you go
to n and I'm like I'm getting nervous
you know it's like building up I hear
you very much and then we went um we
went to um AIT one you
know and Bobby what are you doing we
going this
who
sister I
don't I could do that Bobby you know
that right know you know but I have the
R so you know
okay so then we go to aitz one you get
the tour gu with the headphones I just
want is D I'm sorry sense too I'm on the
phone with with my Bobby Helen asking
her which uh show the bunker she was in
yeah wow that's crazy it's ridiculous
and I'm on the phone with her right and
I ask Ari and AR already knows which one
I'm supposed to go to cuz he said his
grandmother was right there also make a
by the way make a long story short we're
already back you know how far the whole
thing is I know like we're already back
at the entrance so I'm
like where's lger 14 goes oh that's back
right back in the beginning I know I'm
like whatever you're supposed to tell me
what 14 is in the beginning by the
answer no it's by the right by the crime
really so um I still rocks I have rocks
oh we took a brick okay took a break I
didn't take anything I I didn't have the
so then one guy starts talking friend of
mine mayor hi made it see him by the
crematorium he starts talking you know
he's giving a speech and he's talking
about his
grandmother that you know she's like has
dementia and you know and she's crying
for her brothers and sisters right and
like you know and it's like it's like
essentially like it's a finger that got
cut off and it's a wound that like it's
still there you know
and then it it just all hit me like a
ton of bricks in my face like this
concept of like you know I have a kid
and you said you know this is your Nama
like there's no n there's no all it was
was a n right and like my whole like
mindset you know hit me in the face of
like I had like I had it all wrong there
is no like all it is is a to everything
that no I'll tell you though no I'm
saying from that element us for sure but
for people who survive
BBY people who survive the Holocaust
right they always say you
know right it's it's in Thea in the of
Hitler you know they say when
Hitler you
know
right he killed
himself you speak English by the way
mentioned that's what I heard the what
he kill him his people killed him no he
killed himself because he
was not right but no I'm saying like
this when people say so there's a lot of
Holocaust Survivors who who build up
families they say like it's an aoma on
Hitler you agree with that you think
it's an
aoma I so I said I said to I said
to
for
of real saying a point real saying that
you can't take revenge so one second so
what was the thing that hit me goes I I
I use the word n come up until now right
and I was say it to Bobby and I'd say it
to my other grandmother i' would say it
to zi and what do they say yes yes why
cuz they had such a gius to to to create
a a sense of safety and of this is you
know VAR kite and and create a reality
that wasn't such a ju opposition to what
existed that whether you were right or
wrong they told you you were right
that's what I'm saying I do but I think
I think when you say n it's not about
the surv you know for him for the for
the Val because I blow 5 year old M and
most of
the right right I tell what the v n
revenge is not the right word n is like
f you you tried to knock us out we're
still here it's not like a Revenge thing
so no so so to the person it's all my
point was that that to these people they
they went on as if as as and started new
with all this baggage with all this you
know tremendous amount of you know that
would normally debilitate a normal
individual but and all this that existed
really gave them was a along the
way oh my point is I never CRI like that
before in my life it'll hit me like a
ton of bricks I broke down and I was
done so I I have with me so I I didn't C
at all right there at the I'm saying
like his words and it just all clicked
and my mind just started racing and what
happened with me was very interesting
when I was in Poland so okay I'm still
you so I didn't you know for some reason
I'll tell you why you don't cry you
don't cry because you're not connected
by the end of the day right now it's
just it's land you know whatever it is
it's but in in myid danic in the
concentration camp so they have a place
there which I didn't know existed till I
went you know the pile of bones over
there so that's crazy after the war the
Russians came into Germany into into
Poland and they gathered from the
creatum whatever was left you think they
gathered from the Creator how much ashes
they killed and they made a pile of of
Ash and Bones some bones it's like it's
been exposed to
the
they they don't want to bury it that's
the whole problem no but the area up
like I didn't know it exists and you
come to the thing you see a
mountain 30t
high 30 ft high of Ash and in between
you see
bones so I cried there but when I lost
it it was interesting for
me like you have every time you going
you're like also daving
and think all the names R and
right o you know so I I only knew I only
knew that after I went after I went to
Poland that what that Bobby's parents
were killed in ashwoods too oh you
didn't know that either right I didn't
know that that your parents were killed
in Ashwood the second Ashwood there two
ASW and and I didn't know that when I
was in Poland I didn't know now if I go
back now knowing that that happened I
probably it was very interesting I and
as as crazy as aitz was um so Bobby
Helen told me so she my grand Bobby
Helen was in aitz and then she was moved
to Germany to do to for labor into
Germany after Germany they she was in um
uh Bergen Bon it was Bal said that was
worse than aitz why why because aitz had
the
crematoriums so everything was so to say
you didn't smell it you didn't see it
the the the the people yeah they were
just
piles look like she said that you you
couldn't even meaning aitz was we should
never understand what but she says in
comparison she says that was like you
couldn't you didn't feel human walking
past what existed over there it was like
a different uh this is for the Val the
red CRS came yeah and kids and they was
everything you know the showers
everything okay they working that's
amazing it's not
on in they you know
they they were able to show that it was
that's my that's what B says see there
it looked like it was normal so to say
looked like you could present like it
was now only that one of the things that
AR said to me that made so much sense
right says what was the the whole of
tarov right oh that was a thing
I the kid experiment on the kids no but
but then when they realize that you
can't separate them so when you see
those pictures of the mother holding a
hand efficiency right but right so when
you see the mother holding the hand in
you know what they call Canada in that
area it's
like doing they should die better anyway
so to me guys we get to me what hit me
when I for some reason I was in lens all
my thoughts and started down and cry I
not I'm heed I never have I was people
thought it was not normal I was just
screaming my this is in raan's Cav I
don't know what happened first time or
second time first time second time
second time was not the same never the
same but I just I just I I heed so badly
so I didn't it didn't hit me till I was
so I said I said to AR I said okay so
now can we do the trip backwards yeah
you know like now everything like all
the puzzle pieces finally fell in so now
now I told my father I told if I have
money I'm taking it no I'll never go I
said we'll take it we figure it out like
you only think your father would
appreciate it he would say he doesn't
want to go I know it is correct like
father an experience just like my father
there one that that was with us on this
trip that actually went with his father
he was with us this was the second time
that he went and he said that it was
very I would bring my father I agree
with I how
somehow I think what I real have to pull
off is we have to pull both father we
want to go with your father and your
father you know and me and mother to our
to our to look yeah and this is years
ago yes with
zi you got a planner going what happened
you had tickets even yeah you had
tickets I remember this got sick right
no no no no is the the to
the Twin Towers the Twin Towers holy
crap I remember this yeah had
tickets nobody wanted to travel
afterwards everyone was very afraid to
get on a plane I know I remember this
you had tickets you had tickets the
tickets the driver what was the plan
what did you want to find out where did
you want to go where was the plan to go
L to
you know was in oh they wanted to go to
Romania also yeah
Roman we going to pull this over we're
going to pull our fathers in the summer
it's a it's an option and they know you
know your father look to D to to go you
know
restaurant I'm going to work on it an
idea by the way I think they would go
together you can take another 3 days in
the summer no problem so let's let's
let's talk a little bit where I I think
we're holding I have to review the
video I'll tell
you yeah so we're really talking a
little bit how when you arrived in
arel right so you came from Greece right
you were in Greece no not Greece um CPUs
Cyprus right
andus
right8 what's amazing about Bobby's
story which which we still have to get
back to it I want you to see then while
ask good is that is that every little
Blick is a year you were a year in
Cyprus right a year a year a whole year
more not more as an 18-year-old girl was
in Cyprus when you were by
yourself but by how did you get to who
did you go to cypess so we want to come
to Israel yeah but who are you with
nobody I mean the relatives no Rel it
was the group of people that they saved
from oh this is one Hungarian she was in
a boat
boat
okay
no not your father no no father no but
you had EST you had the two kids with
you right this was before before they
get to death they came to Israel it was
after the right so when you got to
Cyprus is before
yeah you know
which one of your brothers became a
general in the Russian army
as the Russian right and
as what was his
name the he became the chief of police
of the
Russians of the Russians so this is a
story The Russi and he wiped and he
found the people exactly he found Jews
who told on other Jews he lacked them
off for Life yeah without questions yeah
he just put him in jail
forever you know he was so was so wanted
to get them
back he he he found Nazis he found Nazis
yeah yeah that were still Nazis also
that were in the GU to the bar you know
to the to the bar yeah because they came
home from a MH is right and between them
you know was Nazis and he killed him or
he put him in jail no don't kill him you
know probably killed
him how did how did he become I don't
understand how did he become
RI
right
SOI place where what city was that what
city
know
transport people to hi her yeah it's
before the war
B
who came who
came they were
Germans right
okay she
told
yeah
for and then you went then you
met
want they go back to her
parents you know
for this is get this he said that he
said I really have to take you in I'm on
vacation I don't want my vacation so El
I'll catch you tell someone else to
catch you this is a Hungarian guard
piece
train starts
slowing
down off the
train the Train the train as was coming
to which where was it coming into what
what state not from from to where to
next to the to
the and what place was
that R all right fine to get to Hungary
was better you were in Romania at the
time
right you want to go into Romania which
was better so you had to jump off the
train before the
Border
I still don't get that I still don't get
that no
know people they pre-arranged people
to amazing how they did that I don't
know yeah it's
amazing I understand but how did they
know how do they arrange it right I
asked you this last time Bobby how did
they
arrange speak English you guys made a
plan right so so you're coming to the
Romanian border from Hungary yeah no no
no to the Hungarian border from Romania
yeah you're in Romania or you're in
Hungary in Hungary right so you're in
Hungary yeah and I have to vote the the
go to the border of Romania yes from
Hungary to Romania right so before the
Border as the train is pulling up you
jumped off okay you have two kids with
you yeah whose kids are
those
okay but when you jumped off there were
people there to help you nobody was
there they came she waited there and so
who
came how did they know
you
that's
they went on the train they got St they
got
off now let's back up who arranged that
this guy
should see I'm learning new
things first time I heard it referred to
his papers I only heard F of fish BBY
repeats the stories a lot I let to say
it again because he always little no
information who's the person who went
along with you in the train who is that
person
a
wait there was another guy also on the
train
already no this is after they jumped of
the train went to someone's house H in
the house and
and
Hey listen to story I heard this last
time
czy hid behind the
and then you were behind it
right
the gun with the gun with the knife
after I for what it's called yeah I know
you
talk nice thing have another
side
so you saw the knife sticking through
the
ha you know
you were able to move around in the
barn or you always stayed right
there oh okay after J the TR yeah
yeah
and then where did you go from the barn
where did you go from the
barn from there
yes
okay
I ask you a question I always
wonder you have to go to the
bathroom no I know there wasn't how did
you wipe yourself when you had to go to
the bathroom I want to know this to
know I want to know what did people do
how did you clean people clean
themselves very simple I can tell use
your hand and wipe it over this
thing ising
it wasn't
human not
human one one of the most interesting
things that I remember Ari talking about
was the latrines that's when they were
friend no but that's where they
exchanged so much information until they
realized put another language in there
speak you
know you
know
all of a
sudden Bobby Bobby's father was very
rich really yes I never knew that yes
your father was very rich he owned one
he had one of the biggest houses
right very
wealthy he had you had an in how do you
make a living he had I remember shash
told me he had an inn like a
hotel what was
his exting right and
you
know no but you said your your your
father own real estate you tell me right
something you know like this but your
mother came into the marriage with
money tell they had real estate they you
rented out places he had building he
rent
yeah she she ran the business right she
ran the
business you rich man who sat alert
that's the bottom line hello but did
either of them did any of did either of
them have money coming into
it
prob was 14 at the time no just yeah I'm
curious I know it was your grandparents
did you did you right you didn't know
any of your grandparents not one first
of all my name is from my mother's uh
mother mother I didn't okay see I didn't
know that either check it out and my
mother was the youngest and my father
was the youngest did you know that what
both Bobby's parents were the youngest
so so she Bob's named after her mother's
mother yeah W I didn't know that
either I didn't know
that one second
you're your your mother's name was razel
right raisel right
and her mother's name
was wow and your father's and when you
got to ER Z's parents were in came
to she they was also in Cyprus in cyp
but that was z i I used to go to
them right that was the second one first
wife di when when she was 23 years old
but I have you know in Cyprus I have so
they are all his brothers
s um first or any of them step Z and
your uncle yob are brothers and the rest
of them are are half Brothers half
Brothers right B Helen said that's a
Cyprus some relative they they own the
Cyprus there they what they own it or he
was the ran the show
who she told me no I know um I think it
was but she didn't wasn't C but they
also had a similar story like uh you
know in terms of General in the army
they went back to their house after the
war yeah yeah after the war they went
Bobby Helen went back to the house
with from uh I mean she from she's from
also well Bobby hen was was
good Z was very very very
very nice very nice they were very very
rich very he had he he had so much land
he used to give he used to make a
partnership I'll give you the land and
I'll and you could be a sh meaning you
could work the land