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hi this is deborah rolofsky and welcome
to the roblox
show thank you
thank you thank you both of you and uh
we have a response this week
we have sponsored anonymously leloy
nishmas
my father not my father but the
anonymous
father uh marsha aaron ben rebu
official someone who very much enjoyed
listening to robert yalowski as we would
drive back and forth for treatments
during his very short brutal battle with
cancer
um i i have to tell you how
how touched i am whenever i hear these
things somebody actually put out a book
about her battle with cancer and in the
book she discusses how listening
to my shirum helped her get through the
process
i've had this from other people um you
know when i used to have cassette tape
someone told me that they
spoke to kupaku khalim here in israel to
see if they would buy my tapes for
people who are sick because it gives
them and
that's such a tremendous thing it
continues i also appreciated the hours
of shurim available for listening
during my year of shiver thank you very
alaska for inspiration and laughs along
the way
um i someone told me once
that aikla's in brooklyn during the
sphere normally when they put you on
hold
they put on music but during the sphere
they used to put on my tapes
so the guy told me he said i used to
call up just to be put on hold so i
could listen to the things
you cheap jew could have just bought one
but anyway
but uh so thank you so much for that
and tremendous inspiration well we're
we're underway now we had our
anniversary show
in our second year i'm a little more
comfortable now
with the general forum that we're doing
and so
as i established all the way back in the
very first podcast as you recall
sitting in the corner of my bedroom uh
looking like i was making a hostage
video
i discussed that i'm not only going to
be doing the retoria of other things to
discuss for example i wanted to do
recipes
um i wanted to share now that it's it's
uh it's getting cold
soup weather now personally i think you
can eat soup anytime
i don't know why there's this concept
that soup is only reserved for cold
weather
there's a bagel store here in harnauf
and they only make soup during the
winter some you can't get soup
i happen to enjoy soup all the time but
um
so i just want to share with you my
onion soup recipe because
it is the best uh let me get onto my
soapbox a bit because i'm going to be
ranting today
full disclosure um and that is
that i look up onion soup recipes and i
can't tell you how many times i see
onion soup mix in it now if i wanted to
make an onion soup what's the point of
putting onion soup mix in it making
chicken soup and putting a chicken soup
mix
there's no point to making it just make
the mix you can't take a chicken and
vegetables and water and make a chicken
soup you have to add in chicken soup mix
this disturbs me if it was like when i
was back in yeshiva
and most of the soup was just soup mix
and they would have like you have a tea
bag with a
little string and you would dip it into
hot water so they would take a pokey and
tie a little string to it and dip it
into the soup you know
so we could say now it was flaky again
osum used to make uh these little
uh instant soup mixes and one of them
said
bisari one of the police came at the
time said there's there's not enough
flashes and it's because of the busserie
don't worry about it you know they
they must have just like you know done
the the the little
teabag pokey trick you know and dipped
it in you know and so i could say now
officially it's it's bizarrey
but um uh i i
i'm i'm not happy with uh soup mix the
fact matter is somebody wrote me i was
really very surprised when i gave my
breaded chicken recipe uh last week they
said oh no wonder you had a heart attack
and i was like
why so a little mayonnaise because
you could i could do a little mayonnaise
you know
uh they said well you put in onion soup
mix says msg onion soup mix
was a quarter of a cup and went in for
three chickens and
you think that's what's gonna do me in
trust me
if at the end of my life i look back and
they say yeah it was the msg
and the onion soup mix that he sprinkled
on top of the chicken that did him in
i will be surprised anyway
but i don't like it because i i i don't
think it makes a soup it's not a
it's not cool a soup anyway so here's
what i do
um i cut up three large onions
or four medium onions or
seven very small i don't really don't
know you'll have to work that out for
yourself
this is proportions and i cut them into
slices
now full disclosure sometimes i can't
cut them all the way because they're too
big so i cut the onion in half and then
i cut them into half rings
and a little bit of or a little bit of
oil you could use olive oil if you're
nervous
and i fry them up until they get dark
and then i sprinkle a little flour on
top a little bit of flour
doesn't have to be white flour it could
be a whole wheat flour it could be spelt
f-l-o-u-r spelt flour
[Laughter]
anyway sprinkle that on top just so it
becomes a little more of a thick of a
paste
and then i pour in two liters of water i
leave it stir it up
wait for it to boil when it comes to a
boil i then take
three to four red onions depending on
the size and i chop them up those aren't
sliced i chop them up
i add them in stir them in add another
two liters
when that boils up then i
add um some dry red wine
how much like this okay so
i guess it depends on the size of the
bottle the opening of the bottle
and how round the circumference of your
pot is
but that's the amount it goes like this
like this over here
and stir that in and then i add uh
salt pepper and curry that's it
and i stir it up and i may add another
two liters at this point
depending on the size of the pot i let
it boil up
and uh you let it thicken
at some point you have to taste it and
see if it needs a little more salt a
little more pepper
a little more curry you know and when
it's done
give valdic if you want you can eat it
just the way it is
you want to eat it french style
put some grated cheese and some croutons
put the soup on top of it
you don't need to do that that's less
healthy but the soup itself is really
it's very good it's very filling and
it's good on a on a cold
day there's some onion soup it's always
a big hit here in the house when i make
it
but that's not what i want to talk about
this week um
i'll tell you what i want to talk about
this week and this is what inspired me
i've been teaching massive charm for
years
now at this point i
teach masil shasharm to ladies
in harnoff um
11 30 and sunday morning i teach
massive sushiram to men and women in
telestone
uh eight o'clock um on tuesday nights
and uh i give a daffy me every morning
at 8 30. now i spoke about when i talked
about
getting fulfillment from learning torah
i got a number of people who said
well i've never really had a really
fulfilling tomorrow's show i would like
to participate and i say listen
i don't record the gemara share because
it is dynamic you have to be part of it
i said you could call in if you want
there is an actual fellow
he's an emt and he works at night and he
calls in
to be part of the sheriff but most
people said not so someone gave a
suggestion which i happen to think
is fascinating and he said okay
so then let's do an online share
belie nether in the beginning of january
when we make our cma shots
i will be making available details will
follow
uh achabura online
um there'll be a nominal fee
and i have to set up the computer so
that everybody can be in a little window
so i can see who you are
i once did one of these things where
people could just add comments it's not
the same thing
i'm sitting there looking at myself i
already know what i look like
not that i couldn't spend hours doing
that
but uh but uh that's that's
doesn't have the dynamism is looking at
the puzzled looks
on people's faces as i discuss
anita doing heset on
and that absolute fulfillment that i as
a market share gets
from knowing that i'm talking about
things that almost nobody
understands or cares about and then it's
my job of course to make that relevant
and show how within that is really the
secret of our nashoma i'm just kidding
but um but whatever the topic happens to
be obviously i'm
we're starting in broncos that's a
that's a much easier one it's a
no-brainer
it says made for me half of the gemaras
are about going to the bathroom
so you can imagine the opportunities
that that presents for spirituality
but uh so we're we're going to hopefully
uh do it over there
um but i do give it up for me and in
fact there have been some requests
that i do in masilis sharm khabura
online
because again i i happen to think that
masel shasharm is one of those swarm
that is so underappreciated um
because it's imminently practical but
people don't know how to make it
practical
and uh i have been teaching it for over
30 years
and i uh i think it's a tremendous
opportunity for people
to really grow in their voters hashem
it's so practical
the messelstochon parikh aleph he
mentions that you cannot save yourself
from the itsahara
alaba gadola
now what is hashgaffer so hashgaffer
isla
the way you do uh la shkief the way you
you do that outlook i'm not sure exactly
how to
is that you get up on top of a mountain
and you see the whole view
that's hashgrapher hashgraph is to see
the whole thing that's
hashgaffer
and this and this reminded me of a whole
bunch of stories that have happened to
me that i want to talk about
but i want to when i teach this idea
about hashgaffer
the way that the word is used today
is like so often the exact opposite of
what the word means
yeah because of allu
is libero moshe shapiro used to say this
all the time
when you say kosovo
is a board and you have to carve into it
and he says in modern hebrew we took the
word luah
to mean something that you immediately
erase the exact
antithesis of what the word is supposed
to mean
and sometimes words and the words of
humpty dumpty
and um alice to the looking glass words
mean what i want them to mean
the united states just took out the head
of isis
who by all descriptions was an evil man
and the washington post in their
headline describes him
as a muslim religious leader scholar
muslim religious scholar
it's like uh who developed a tremendous
empire
so uh somebody wrote it and said that
that's similar to saying adolf hitler
you know a um a aspiring
uh landscape artist um
who established a very large empire
where's what we wanted to mean yeah one
man's freedom fighter is another man's
terrorist
and uh and and uh that's why it was
napoleon bonaparte who said history
is the events that are decided upon by
the victor
so um you know words that words are a
tricky thing yeah
hashgaffer today so i went to speak in a
school once
on behalf of a seminary and they said
they said what is your school's
hashgaffer
i said what do you mean he says you know
you are
i said no no i understood with the word
man i just i don't know what the
question means
you know your hashkafa
so we believe in god we believe in torah
we believe in
your shamayim we believe in helping
everybody grow it
no no no you're a hashgaffer i said what
do you mean
do you say hello in your mouth's mood or
not
that's it that's your hush
that's what it's been reduced to
now i was discussing the question of
saying hello
matsumut and olugola which was training
program i used to teach
budding rabbis the question came up
i said listen it's a halal issue like
everything else there's some person will
say yes and some post couldn't say no
and i pointed out that salvation
from yeshua university didn't say hello
and there was a person in the room who
was a muslim from yeshua university he
had never been in the ramshire
mary meiselman who was the rev's nephew
he always says whenever everyone quotes
the rough ask him how many years were
you in the sheer
yeah he never was in the room i don't
have you ever met the ref because he was
he was not well at that point he says to
me
that's a lie and you know it
now do i get things wrong i get things
wrong all the time
yeah i'm old enough to remember when a
president got something wrong that they
had this great word they used to say
the president misspoke now it's a lie
anything donald trump says a lie he's a
lie he said there's a lie you know
it can't be he misspoke can't say he's a
liar
says that's a lie and you know it
calling me a deliberate life
i said my father-in-law got smirk from
the rav and he said he didn't say
halloween
he said that's a lie i said
robert granovsky who we had on the show
when he was in
university he says i was in a minion
with the rub on your mother's morning
and say hello
my phone he says it's a lie and i was
lucky
because the new director of oligola
happened to be sitting in the room and
he said
i was in a minion with the roof on your
mat
and didn't say hello i said is he a liar
too
i figure let's see if we get a little
interest going
he says all the closest tell me them of
the rav said they didn't say alan
everybody knows now i didn't know it at
the time
i have a i have a
copy of hershel shakhtar's book my final
look at it for me
on the roof and uh i looked it up
he doesn't say exactly what this young
man said he didn't say
that said
a cursor and a blasphemer of the name of
god that's
different than saying you should say it
i know that's it
it's fine it's a fine distinction there
if you can see the difference between
saying
you should say it or if you do say it
you're a blasphemer
like i say that's a subtlety that
sometimes was
but i didn't have that available to me
at the time but at the end of class i
said
it's inappropriate for you to call me a
liar
in front of a shirt that i'm giving to
rabbis
i said i heard something years ago from
people who are close to a biak of
kaminsky rubiah kaminetsky held
that the havorah te mani was the most
correct one
because since the yemeni jews had been
isolated from most communities
they weren't affected as much obviously
european jews were affected by the
languages they were exposed to
farty jews were affected by the
countries they were in
and the tamil name weren't affected by
anybody so for example svardim have a
and then which are guttural letters that
is in ashkenazi are not able to do
but they only have uh
they pronounce the comets as a pata they
don't have that or that we have
obviously if there's two different ones
they should have two different sounds
so there's uh there's uh differences
between the two
my name they have a pata they have a
comets
they have a yes they're both
they have a gimmel and a jimmy uh they
have a
resh like the israelis and the sweden do
and they have a race like ashkenazim do
they have a tough and a thuff so they
have like shabbos
they have uh uh all kind of different
sounds
so he felt that this was the closest to
the correct type of ball right because
had the most sounds did it
so he used to say krishna over again
with the taiwanese
pronunciation i have pointed out many
times i am not pesach crone
i don't check out my stories i've been
telling this story for
40 years i don't know if it's true and i
don't really care but
i heard it i say it over right i said
listen i heard this once
if there was a talmud of yakov in the in
the sheer
i don't think he would call me a liar he
might say no
it's not really true i've heard that too
uh you know
rib yakov didn't really do that whatever
but i can't imagine you call me a liar
and he said to me
whether you say halloween is more
important than saying krishna twice a
day
i said rabbi surely you don't mean that
i mean krishna is
the pronouncement of everything we
believe in in judaism it's what
jews go to their death saying it's what
we teach our children
and when they're little yeah in in their
rooms
and they say she's my israel and he said
again
whether you say hello it's more
important than saying krishna twice a
day
i said rabbi surely you're familiar with
the fact that krishna is a diarisa
and halal on yom smooth is at best that
durable
it's not he says whether you say hello
and you almost it's what was that great
right
he says because it defines your entire
judaism
wow there was an ncsy tour to israel
one was more modern orthodox one of the
leaders and one of the leaders was more
what i guess we would call yeshivish
and uh he made arrangements to take the
kids to meet different golem the boston
arbor
scheinberg like this he had learned in
the gush so he went to his rebbe river
luxemstein and he says he's only taking
him to their golem
he's not taking him to our godom i want
them to come and see you
so listen said who cares we agree on 99
of the issues and the one percent that
we disagree wouldn't come up anyway
he says let him go to the boston rebbe
he speaks english his english is easier
to understand than mine
so um you know the the
the hashgaffer
so the reason i brought all this up well
this is by way of introduction of what i
want to talk about today
as you may have noticed um i'm wearing a
hat
i don't usually do that um
there was an exception of course uh on
my benezemann
podcast i had a baseball cap for
benezema venezuela because we were on
deal
but for the most part i don't why did i
put this on today this is what i was
thinking about
because when she took him come up they
asked the question
what's the boys hashgrapher
i said well what do you want to know
does he wear a black hat
well that's not really a hashtag that's
a head covering
right um so you can argue
it represents an entire philosophy and
sometimes that's true
and sometimes it's not
very left like to tell the story where
his son went to a crader and
came home and said my rabbi said that
anyone who wears a kippah sugar
can't have any urushimayan because it
seeps out of the holes
he says i can't believe the arula hashem
[Laughter]
you know it's a it's a head covering
give a perspective
so so i of course so people always say
to me no what they mean
is it represents a whole series of
sometimes yes but i know girls who just
want to know that the boy wears a black
hat and doesn't care about anything else
there's somebody i don't know if he
wants me to mention his name now
because uh you know based on the world
we're in today
but for years this was a major person
he used to wear a kippah sugar and a hat
and i remember i asked him once i said
why do you want to keep past we got you
know
just out of curiosity he's
he says i learned in yeshiva and the
rashiva said to me why you're going to
keep pastor
and i put on a black yamaka and he just
laughed and he says you can wear
anything you want
now i don't know why this person looks
so silly in a black yamaga but for
whatever reason he did
but he would keep us we got a black hat
so what is he hashgraphically
i uh i'm going to take this off now
like i say all of that was just for my
two-minute introduction anyway
but uh lash keefe to get on top of a
mountain
and look over the entire field
i learned the new shiva khabib i've
mentioned this many times they try to
keep it quiet but
i was there i wasn't there long enough
to get smirk because
they said the amount of time it would
take me they would have to give it to me
posthumously
and then they could just like you know
chip it into my tombstone
rabbi i decided to go to a more
accelerated program
like i mentioned last week i wanted to
get a discount on my phone
so uh but um they didn't
dress in black and white and it's not
just they didn't dress in black and
white
it was part of their hush coffee
used to say look at the pictures and i
challenge you go look at the pictures
of the mirror in europe and and and
slobodka and the yeshivas in europe
they didn't dress in black and white the
rest of yeshiva dressed in black and
white
everybody else were colored shirts
colored hats
when i went to have a time in the 1970s
we were known as the yeshiva with the
pink shirts
now that's not really true it depended
on the color of your suit i haven't have
a gray suit so pink shirt went very
nicely with it
had a grey pink tie that went with it
you know
and with that of course i would wear my
gray hat with the brown suit i'd wear my
brown hat
but we didn't wear black hats and in the
summertime
white straw hats the entire yeshiva was
a sea of white straw hats
that's what we wore so shiva
felt that this influence of dressing in
black and white
was contrary to the messora that he had
received
he felt this was something that came
from the khasidim that filtered in
and it wasn't our mesora now he was
really big on this on a lot of things
our messora and he would always say
my father had a message that he got from
him and they would trace it back to the
guru
and they get up and this is how we do
things this is our hashtag
this is our messiah we're very big on
that
i mean hasidim not really
i meet people who dress like hasidim
and i say oh is your family
they say no i said oh so which qasidas
are you he says
none i just like the wish
do you want to be a cousin or just dress
like one yes the barbers are in school
casitas can teach you how to dress and
look like a cousin and you never have to
be a cousin
it's so shitty it's so external it's so
but this was so important anyway
so years later i went to
uh they were diving into the castle
whatever the occasion was
and me and another old guy we came in a
white straw hat
and everybody was wearing black hats
i did a double take
wait that was the only one
i did another thing i said was haste
what's going on over here they said
the shiva eased up said why
because the boys couldn't get she took
him
you show up at some house in flatbush
and you want some guy to go you're going
out with this girl
you know nice business girl and you walk
in you know with a great great
great suit and a great hat and a pink
shirt they don't care
how much lumbers you've got you
understand that you don't look it you
don't lick it
yeah and the most important thing is to
look good and you
look marvelous marvelous
you gotta look good sheesh
so uh i may have told this story already
i don't remember
i came to itself and i i
wanted to learn in the kayla i came to a
particular coyote
and couldn't get a harvest i didn't know
why
and uh i was dressed yeshivish
i had brown slacks tan jacket
powder blue shirt nice uh blue
tan tie brought it all together had my
hush puppies and my white straw hat
so i found out later they thought i was
a tourist nobody nobody thought
no i was dressed like a regular yoshima
guy
in oz but anyway
what can i tell you i went to yeshiva
where we lived in color not in black and
white
so uh so i came to its shell and i
started to get the lay of the land
so i uh so i switched
to dark samba suits and white shirts
i had this hound toothed jacket
i eventually gave it away but it was one
of the most beautiful things i ever had
i
love that give me just a moment
anyway so fine i got myself a black hat
i got black shoes you know i got a black
trench coat
you know and um
and uh okay i started to to fit in
you know i started saying this
started pulling on my beard you know i
used to rub my hands a lot that's very
important it's an important move
okay anyway go back to america
a guy sees me and says it's all there
but it doesn't look right
i said why it says you smile too much
[Laughter]
you have to really look miserable i've
never
mastered that i'm sorry to say but um
but anyway but somebody says to me
you've become one of them
i was like what do you mean you change
the way you dress
to fit in with them you becoming one of
them invasion of the body snatches
i said what does that bother you and the
person said
because you should be free to dress any
way that you want
i said you see i practice what you
preach
i am dressing however i want if i'm
going to dress
different than everybody else i need a
good reason
i need a reason to be different you know
so okay you go to a classroom and
everybody's wearing suits and ties you
know and you're wearing a clown outfit
okay so it's because you want to be
missing et cetera but if you go to a
regular dinner party
clown outfit lucy you've got some
explaining to do
why would you do that you need you need
to have a reason if you're
out to freshman at seaboard means that
if you're going to
to be different you need a reason for it
but but does the hat represent your
philosophy
i always thought it was an amazing thing
one of the greatest social commentaries
of all time
was in a film that came out in 1939 it
was uh
it was popular at the time was called
the wizard of oz and at the end
scarecrow wants to get a brain and the
lion wants to get courage
and the tin man wants to get a heart and
they come to the
wizard and he says to the scarecrow
and one of the greatest moments of
social commentary
scarecrow there are people who have no
more brains than you have
but they have something you don't have a
college degree
and so from the university wise
and he goes a square times b is creating
c squared i'm a genius
listen as my father said once if you're
an idiot you'll be an idiot with a
college degree
says uh line there are people have no
more courage than you but they have
something you don't have a medal
that gives him a medal now he's got
courage
tin man people have no more heart than
you have but they have some you don't
have a testimonial
you know so give you a reward
it gives him a plaque and gets a little
tear in his eye you know
because now he's a wonderful person this
is how it works
and there are people who have no more
you're shamayim than you do but there's
only you don't have a black hat
i taught in yeshiva once which catered
to beginners
and they had a rule if you came from a
family where they were black hats and
you had a black hat it was okay
but during your first year you could not
put on a black hat
because it's too easy externalities
i put on the black hat now i'm from
there was a guy um
in our summer he looked like
the biggest tomahawk ever so he had a
long great beard and
had pace behind the isn't it he couldn't
read olive face
but he figured out how to dress the part
do you want to be a tamil khakham or
just dress like what
here at the barbers on yeshiva we can
teach you how to fake everybody out
i used to teach when i used to teach
balichuva you know i said look it's
all in the appearance nobody cares it's
only appearance
you can't say um ramban
and instead of saying rambam people say
ramban
the ramban you give yourself away in a
second so we used to practice
rambam rambam rambam ramban ramban
and rambam rambam
i said this tricks you know
when you're learning gemara look at the
massachusetts and then say i think this
was a gemara and yuvamis
and people oh you think so you think
[Laughter]
there was a guy he didn't know how to
learn at all
but everyone thought he was so smart
because no matter what they were doing
he'd go so what's the hamamina
which has to be a great trick it's a
great trick i you can do this in a
conversation
yeah um it doesn't matter what anybody
says
it doesn't matter you can try this
doesn't know what anybody says you could
say
yeah but that doesn't explain why
and people immediately go into an
explanation even if it
doesn't require an explanation we're
eating at six
okay but that doesn't explain why well
um i figured that i want to give
everybody time to get ready for bed and
then
i done this to my kids once so one time
they did it on me but
you never give out a weapon unless you
have the antidote you know that
so they said to me once okay that
doesn't explain why and i go exactly all
right
i'm tired i wore myself out
[Laughter]
um this uh this concludes our
show second show of the second year and
the second hour of the second day
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[Laughter]
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