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You want him to part from his money.
What's your pitch?
I'm a fundraiser.
office
about
the most valuable thing was
The most valuable thing he has is
there's
In in on time, out
the most valuable thing he gave you
already.
Great.
Is the
is a good
because it makes his work meaningful.
[Music]
Wow. So
the most valuable thing
walking in
Yeah.
It happens.
>> Of course.
Uhhuh.
It's like planting a seed.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
followup meeting. Uh-huh.
And what kind of a follow up
And
it's it's a it's a it's a totally
different experience.
It's a serious I want to have a serious
conversation.
in office.
A whole separate conversation.
[Music]
It depends the culture.
Mhm.
tough time
and
again mention
[Music]
if I see a person by
telephone number to call you later,
you know, how could I get my foot into
your door? How could I get but uh
I I I
>> Okay. And that's why it doesn't work
because
feel comfortable.
You don't believe in
Right.
depends on the c it's very specific for
the person because now I I don't want to
have that relationship
[Music]
Okay.
Meeting the meeting. No problem.
Appointment for next week.
So that's always
no problem.
The point is open communication.
The mention was
the long term.
It's not they're not they're on your
same side. They're on your side.
You're not competitors. your partnersh
is very busy
investor businesses.
investors.
They give them
in addition to the give their guilt.
says,
"I got him.
like they they won over you. Healthy
attitude
drivers.
They're doing they're gathering
intelligence surveillance
cameras as mentioned.
You know what I mean? It's just they
feel like they're being watched and
spied on.
>> Okay.
>> Again,
you're trying to reach busy people.
>> There is good
mans out
tuned. This is what the driver tune is.
But uh
for the most
being open is the best is
the best.
>> No, it makes sense.
>> Long
Um,
yeah.
from
mention there are a b's and c's the
grace other
causes
the bees
Fore
fundraiser.
It's best open and honest clarity.
[Music]
Uh but the point was aim.
>> Yeah.
How do I become an A in your How do I
become Yeah.
My A's, my B's, my C's.
A
I was open.
What interests you?
Again, it's not a game of cat and mouse.
from Golden,
you know.
for
what's
Mhm.
select few
trust.
[Music]
Wow.
From my experience,
they want to see the impact of their
>> Nobody likes to see waste or I never
met.
>> Maybe there is.
>> But you haven't met him yet. I didn't
meet the one that wants to see my waste,
but
trust.
Yeah, that's what says
it's
the whole thing is a separate
um
it it's again very culturally specific.
>> Mhm.
The match campaigns
match
mention
I'm saying
that's what
was
[Music]
um and I humbly I respect it a lot and
obviously
But I'm all there's a you know the
benefits
you know
it's like a little bit of peer pressure
Yeah.
[Music]
I feel it's part of the family tradition
continuously operating.
>> Wow.
How many years in English?
>> 237 years. I got it right. 237 years.
given health
as the
to give
the
Ottoman Empire,
the Turks,
It's like treason almost. Treason. Yeah,
that's a good
[Music]
and yeah sure. Wow.
[Music]
package. Oh,
>> like the the prison file from the
investigation.
>> Yeah, for the investigation
receipt.
>> Okay.
What currency was
for
um and is
there in them
is
[Music]
we have
the family
is sixth seventh generation from United
States.
>> Wow.
>> The family
you know, sixth, seventh generation
is we Okay. So, we have the receipts
gave dollars. So, so yeah
from Columbus, Ohio.
So, you could you could currency
exchange.
Yeah.
in the
nice to see people are have generational
wealth.
>> Yeah. So,
You know
says so has a price to pay also. It's
not
it's it's not only it's not only there's
a price.
Yes.
for
you know
[Music]
mention
direct
etc.
This is
right. So, so that is more the
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. But I'm saying the the
right
again there's a there's a virtue and
value to it.
Thank you letters.
receipt charity.
Thank you letter or thank you email
in the computer
automatically. He says,
"Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you."
He's a very a very special
stop calling me.
But he asks for very meticulous
very meticulous
specific
with the dollar and the date of the
exchanges pink.
Yeah.
He says
guilty.
Mhm.
>> Interesting. Um um yeah it's a
it's funny because
it's automatic when they put when it
goes into the computer system it's just
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Mhm.
Pages.
One thing at a time. Do one thing at a
time.
foreign.
Um
[Music]
yeah.
So that's our mandate.
Small narrow mandate with a small small
narrow target was the Reb's expectations
for us. Okay. So, so there is projects.
Okay. So,
so you know
food cards
for
mention prepaid cardaid
card.
They have been access.
Wow.
But the
is 47,000.
>> What?
47,000
cardav
math is my worst subject is I'm sure you
know what
the budget is. This can clean it out.
>> One sec. I got to see this.
47,000
*
500.
>> The dollar exchange today is 144.
>> Okay.
>> 145.
>> This is
>> 23,500,000
shekel every month.
>> Yeah.
>> So dollars that's like X
>> whatever. Um
the uh not but we discovered
makes a difference
[Music]
it will it doesn't make a any big
difference. So
first of all
number of children
you know.
Oh wow.
So it doesn't expire at the end of the
month.
>> No, it doesn't expire.
[Music]
Okay.
city hall.
>> I see the municipalities.
>> The municipalities have pretty decent
infrastructure
to
[Music]
off guard, but we have a list of uh of
uh the Allad.
>> They have uh of the
they have very good infrastructure. They
>> good infrastructure.
>> Good infrastructure.
Mhm.
etc. So it's hard
Yeah,
boxes and the whole discussion, right?
>> Separate pantry. That's a separate box
in this
gave him guilt.
So number one number two,
so
you know our our equivalent are
[Music]
the
with the pushkis. We'll get to the push
cap in a moment, but the pushkas um
we have ak
so we had coin counter. We needed a new
coin counter machine.
>> Okay.
quarters
and bank.
>> Okay, fine.
Only three
>> that had old machines, you know.
obviously.
So that's our equivalent.
Mhm.
[Music]
So so it became
my father said I'm learning
back and forth.
the in the
in the 30s and the 40s
[Music]
specific, you know,
so
foreign.
[Music]
Mhm. I have a lot to do with them.
Not financial, but we help each other
with other things uh with database
issues with uh with with logistics, with
fundraising conversations. Of course,
you know, they meet most people in
and the fundraisers.
That's why for them the uh the tap is
much more
of the tap
>> the the
like the small credit card processing.
They have uh a good
they built out a database that connects
smartphone.
So
white label
to white label for only the uh I was
because he said it's not a widespread
thing. Smartphones is not a widespread
thing that uh that would be what people
asked. I'm like, you know,
but um they don't now with the with the
Pushka app that you're a big promoter of
for
stalker.
You had coins in your pocket.
right? Who who cares cash again?
Still cash
>> cash is not cash by by most of the by
travelers
credit card. So also from the pays money
for transaction every time there's a
transaction fee.
>> So it doesn't make sense.
>> Somebody asked me about that last week.
Listen,
do you pay a transaction fee? So we're
only paying the transaction fee. When
you empty the pushka. So, of course,
empty,
you know, let's say,
you know,
one transaction fee
and
Foreig
and I think the the biggest thing is
this habit of giving of
the amount
that it's not fundraising. This is not
this is the habit.
[Music]
Yet divas would still live in that
reality.
[Music]
physical
really of course
people have 100% we have
he counts and how many quarters we count
and
so there's but
cash is still a regular thing cash coins
um The the Pushka app is a very
practical very practical for people for
they travel
[Music]
currencies moving digital anyways.
>> Mhm.
is all digital
digitally. So the push is
you know it's it's a it's a it's a it's
a it's a very unique experience
and um but I discuss it with uh we we we
we exchange notes on these things.
because they can't promote an a mobile
phone app,
>> right?
So business.
They're going to have to come up with
some type of creative way,
you know, unless they're going to
maintain the
>> physical.
There has to be a physical currencies.
The trump the pennies about the nickels
and the
>> dimes about the nickels and the dimes,
you know.
I know how many are empty the year.
>> You want to share?
>> I don't share numbers.
Wow.
I don't know.
I'll share with you a funny story. Um Um
Fore
in office.
Um,
hind
computer
[Music]
in coins.
>> In coins.
Yeah.
because
that we don't have the records for but
we have from a little bit earlier.
There's thousands all over. So one
and I built for inst.
I saw pictures of the day camp. Okay.
>> And they had activities and they had a
line of of pushkas was all the old
yellow pushkas.
Mhm. when
[Music]
you know you know
that's basement
and they made they had an activity
build
because it was in condition
>> because it's sat by him because it's a
you know the same model that's sat on
the
>> it's like desk a vintage
>> it's a historic item
>> I mean the ones the ones that was desker
used to just you know it was
>> wow
[Music]
But the guys is a it's a big business.
It's a
cemeter
with coins. Let's make for every meeting
stock.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Bowl of nickels.
And uh then he says, "Yeah." Then it's
full. I count out the nickels. I go
online. I pay get
>> credit card
back in the bowl. Then I put the nickels
back in the bowl.
And this it's a truth is it's a very
revolutionary thing
is right
and right they think
Okay.
[Music]
Gain
Forez
[Music]
yet.
It says the gap and the guilt is
It's it's it's another cook.
It's nish amount in America. The grace
of God is philanthropy.
Philanthropy is is a is is is
van.
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So we have a whole different approach.
I want to
say I mention office
appointment.
Mhm.
app.
Cambodia,
Thailand,
Thailand, China.
taxi
and the flight is in the free rush hour
traffic
another taxi
flight. There's no way I'm getting on
this flight and I'm all
expensive ticket non-refundable
tickets. It's it was going to be a
disaster
from the taxi on the highway.
a skyscraper, a tower and a top from the
tower is do a screen with like a LCD
screen and there's a picture of the king
of Thailand and it says long live the
king Thailand they love their king
whatever and
where is the king
the second I thought
What would the king want me to do? Give
to I give a few dollars to we made it on
the flight easily. We still had to wait
for the flight to take off. It was
great.
Problem
as soon as you remember you give
the guy's done hardearned money. It's
against nature. You're breaking your
nature every time you do it.
>> The monkey. The monkey nature.
>> Sure. The
Yeah.
concept.
I understand there's a king and whenever
I'm in trouble button
you're going to be fine because the king
is watching helps me a lot. Of course.
So then there's an enormous
responsibility.
Yeah. It's my fault. Sure. It's our
fault. It's your fault.
>> Yeah.
[Music]
Yeah.
You know
fundraising fundraising,
[Music]
but even a few cents
on a on a regular basis as I mentioned.
Yeah. Yeah.
by
pennies Yeah.
And yet the moment
is
[Music]
mitzvah.
the phone app they press. They love
pressing the buttons.
Coins.
>> Okay.
We have to get pennies.
Exactly. And then we keep the pennies
forever.
pennies, dimes
under
when we get denominations of 18. It
helps
>> on the presets. No, 20 is better. I'll
tell you a funny story. Um uh um it's on
the on the appet
any amount the settings
>> so there was a whole discussion
right now it's $8 $10 the default
>> the default and then there's other
custom amount okay
>> but uh
[Music]
from the 18
the presets
changed
cents 5 cents 10 cents 18 cents
$18.36
is
1510.
Change it.
Uh
when we did the trans
the transition
mention
emails
in it's a the guilt.
I got to empty it.
>> So yeah, so so until you empty it, you
have to
say I thought a mistake. So I sent him
an email. I said it was a glitch in our
system. You know, we we transition
systems in those few days those what to
call again. He says
it's pledges.
I said he says
I make an investment
again
and he says
that
wow
but yet
He
and No, no, no, no, no. Don't touch it.
It's It's
>> Don't change it.
>> Don't touch it. It's a real number. I
plan on standing behind it.
>> Wow.
>> And
max.
Okay.
So, the maximum is 18 characters. 18
characters. 18 cuz that's the trillions.
That's Yeah, that's the default max that
we have on the database is 18
characters.
We'll figure it out.
But
it's but
coins over and over.
Okay.
[Music]
of them.
Instantaneous instantaneous
foreign.
So
permission
with a credit card.
[Music]
>> Wow.
>> Operators was the calls like
office.
WhatsApp.
Wow.
[Music]
We pay
the transaction fee. Why send
transaction fee too?
>> So do option of the app to the
transaction fee?
>> No.
>> Why don't you add it?
>> Why don't they add it?
>> Yeah. because it's a it's a it's it's
it's it's a cost of operating a and
whoever lives in this world%
>> it's fine but
I feel that the truth is
fee This is
transaction
transaction fee
you know
I'm sorry another two and a half% yeah
two and a half%
organization
from the organization is why make a
%
for the transaction. Oh, can you
trans
>> right,
>> but also it gives people a little bit of
a bad feeling. You know what I mean? Oh,
mention
that's a that's a that's a separate uh
discussion. But to say that the that the
transaction fee is not stuck. Why not?
>> It's also stuck
organization.
>> Exactly.
Send you, you know,
when you're selling when there's other
things being sold. you know, we all get
all of our fees on our
>> also,
you know, platform fees
with with cash and with cash the fees.
So, we're only going to only going to
charge the fee to people.
But that's a
Shine
for
that
development.
Unbelievable.
and and I think it's widespread and I
think
[Music]
mentioned keep our life colorful. Not
everything has to be black and white.
There's people who make things exciting.
[Music]
Yeah.
[Music]
You date the time.
Okay.
Fore!
[Music]
Foreign! Foreign!
[Music]
from
Foreign
speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech.
[Music]
This is
[Music]
Yeah,
that's
field. Oh.
This is
[Music]
fundraising.
But
I was going to end it cuz you're in a
rush.
But but
this is really the the
you know
Eden
But
[Music]
we don't have that this opportunity.
You're lucky.
Yeah.
The forest
in the White House in Washington.
[Music]
for
me was
how they could make their impact.
[Music]
for the other.
Okay.
volunteer. Get
the
moist,
you know,
[Music]
for
[Music]
I put away my phone. I'm going to pull
out the Pushka app. Very simple.
Um,
there we go.
Yeah.
>> And I'm going to do it, too.
>> You have to turn on the sound.
>> My sound is has an issue.
>> Your sound is off, but
>> Oh, my sound is off. That's Yeah. Let's
see.
>> But it's very low.
>> I don't know. I don't even know.
>> It's your setting. My
>> my setting could be could be.
>> Yeah.
>> But I have to give some money to
seduction. So, here we go.
>> And there we go.
>> Yeah.
>> What was I one? Oh, seven day streak.
>> Seven day streak
>> for the first time in my life. It's
after midnight. It's
>> after midnight. So, okay.
>> Good to know.
>> It's a seven week day.
>> Yeah. But I love the sound so much. I
want I want the people to hear one more
time.
>> This is the best sound
feels good. Giving feels good.
>> Yeah. So, one second. There's my
No, I turn You told me to turn my sound
off, right?
>> Yes, I did. listen to you. The next uh
version of the pushka is coming with two
new things. One thing is two new two new
uh
two new updates coming.
There's two more new updates coming. One
thing that you mentioned is yeah
and that's also going to bring another
mile for people that have uh children
with uh you know teenagers or children
with smartphones also give them the
opportunity to be able to share.
>> Wow, yours is loud.
>> Okay.
It's too heavy. There's no room to shake
it. That's what she says. I have to
empty the push. I have $977 here.
>> So, you can empty it.
>> I never emptied my push ever. This is
still from a year ago. Oh, wow.
>> So, I got to empty it and then
>> and then maybe it'll make louder noises.
>> Is it possible that that's the setting
or Cuz I asked you about it. I was told
no.
>> Turn it off. What?
>> Is it possible that if there's
>> It's inside. No.
>> No, it's not.
>> Are you sure?
>> We could do it.
>> It could be done, but we
>> don't do it. That's a great sound.
>> No, you can make different sounds you
want.
When there's a little few coins, it
makes a lot of noise.
>> An empty an empty can
>> makes a lot of noise.
>> Makes a lot of noise.
>> Yeah.
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