10-28-2015 Sanctifying Shabbos With Kiddush

hello and welcome to stargaze monthly webinar helping all Baltimore offices in baltimore maryland in low places we're here today with rubba-dub-- it ever thank you for joining us never happen again we glad to have you back nice to be back I'm rabbit's feet over your host these webinars are held the last Wednesday of every month at twelve noon eastern time either daylight savings or a standard time depending on the time of year and they are archived hmm the best place to find them is on our vimeo channel and look on vimeo for Starrcade kosher and you'll find all our past webinars including the one we had in june about this the leap second remember that rubber hammer leap second the the extra second oh no this was a feather run it was it was an extra second right an extra second I was added to make the calendars to adjust the calendars and we have an interesting talk about that also ever ever we've had you on you have some webinars abello has brought us 44 series session on on the laws of bras and we'll be able to you can access that as well Ravi ever is also the author of the safer Charisse madam a comprehensive work on the laws of the Jewish calendar and actually mmm however i snipped it over here for you and here it is see that right there on ice waters calm you can purchase it for the low price of 1099 and some wonderful safer and if you interested in I want to follow up on some of these minor issues you can you can find in there its back so today I have a we're going to discuss a few minutes about the mmm the changing of the clock which is happening this early Sunday morning and then we'll move on to a main topic which is kiddush on shabbos inspired by the last week's kiddush I mean the shabbos project wretch about project last week where are thousands and thousands of people around the world join together for shabbos so mmm is a pro time to discuss the laws of Kadesh on jobs I just want to mention if you are following us by my telephone or you want to call us 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march a year from that 2017 that there's going to be important just think note that will actually change the clock important okay what little I've loyola of what time it is but anyway it's the tiniest I'm months for 34 weeks every year and stands of time is either 18 and this year's we have a rare opportunity of 19 weeks of state of time that's what he notices the beginning of november now but first this sunday exactly and i'll go till March March the second Sunday 32 the 14 right I actually got confused i thought we were changing o'clock next week cuz i know it's the first weekend for sun and remember right but it's since it's two o'clock in the morning direct so really exactly so one thing is it's something morning at 2am not but sometimes we think it lots of jobs but it's really two different enough convenience this year well it's a when first sunday is november first the first one says shabbos or 77 of course in 2007 this was instituted so food for about eight years we've had it like this it used to be the last sunday in october so those rules who would have actually been changed as past months of showers this past sunday morning myself of course one one major difference there were several differences that will be noticed because ours going back is shabbos that's come chavez but next shabbos will be extremely early that's a that's always the first week is very difficult because people are accustomed to make your shop is of course the summer is late but even now it's about six o'clock around the earlier but in further west at 6ish little early a little later and all the sun next next shop is shop is precious hi saara lutsen is going to be in baltimore probably about 4 45 go back to you know New York even earlier in Boston these are going back about an hour in 10 minutes or so correct the pattern hour 45 minutes on sat 10 minutes solid but it's going to move back of course that means if it's a chef Buster longer as well a lot of us abundant programs will begin that don't have a summer of shops afternoon the summer that's a good opportunity for marshalls actually started this message shops this is the clock change um so that's important also diamond in saw people down in the secant and nate's of course it's going to go back an hour that's been for those who doubted then it's been actually very light which this week is a difficult week for the worker who's trying to catch that train or beat the rush hour traffic because in places like Detroit sunrises is ready after 8am this year is not in front like a shower is is about 650 approximately so this year was a little bit better because we're changing Clark November first we change the clock of every seventh if that's a something that first week in november is explained that i remember you once said that the latest time was in self jumpin that's been yes when Nate was eight so if you forgot a 15-8 just wanted not this year but correct next year it's gonna be pretty late so that means you couldn't doubt in chakras to me we discuss correct for a few years ago we had a webinar on the daylight saving though they weren't web ontology I would say the other of savings other but probably most important it should it be kind as enough is is next week is the earliest by karishma the particular next shabbos hi Sarah because we change the clock November first sword by shot miss november seventh you'll already have standard time so for example of boston says my jewish my next job will be 856 am in chicago local time will probably be shortly after nine okay so let's say let's say if you start a minyan at eight thirty typical meeting much it's early on Chavez EULA so by nine o'clock they're not getting till creation until nine five nine ten or something like that right direct sales tells us to BK have to Stanley to start earlier exactly and we're talking here not about the mugging of Rome the latest a smoker Lavery the latest possible time so you have to either start earlier or just say Korea shmup exactly them in a Baltimore if your shul started 45 you're gonna have you know it's gonna be close i think starting for effective sure miss it right you'll miss it so that you have to be careful it is the earliest foremost location united states and yourself of approximately the border of built a portland maine and we're south of there there besides state arizona this is the seismic response is something you'll have four number of years so again be extra careful right so you have to be careful with the with the carishma what I wanted to mention we you told this story a few years ago I heard from you actually about the in Israel there was a mmm terrorists from the territories that he said set a bomb but with tremendous job Maya it didn't go off at the right time because they had changed the clock in Israel they changed the clock earlier than the rest of the world and therefore he didn't realize I didn't know it so he said that bomb he went off at the time that there wasn't anybody right around key well I think the terrorists were stud think they got killed right so so you see that you know you never know what the reason is I mean we know that Israel change the clock this past motzei shabbos Europe they switched last year access to all used to change before Yom Kippur all right now they've been did away with that right those are the people would have to test last month shops with all Europe change correct you are really weak different your pleasure nonetheless so he's really not together with your correct but America decided to tectonic so the main the main thing is that now it's only six hours difference between here in Israel for this for this week you trying to reach somebody in a retro but because of that that changed so the terrorists were a sham sent a special protection that they were didn't do any damage right I have a soir Allah why they had attacked a week on it's because there's a why were they become why America tacked it okay towards what's that week was really couple shown well have though the question how they notice Halloween which is 34 right kids call out there out of night so it was always for years it was always there at the time one guy had to be standing time because when was the last sunday in October a definition that's how the October is going to come by 2 a.m. FM 31st from Kerry first was always in it's the end of time which meant it was dark this are the new plans 2007 there's an extra hour of light the Sun Goes Down six o'clock I'd say that is light until that 630-645 so the kids who were enjoying the plug on right have the extra or sunlight and therefore that extra week gave that you're saying why they did it correct was them that was there anything else in part I think so oh that was a part of the thinking but I gotta hurt people we've got creation because in fact it has also on periodic years and i believe next you'll have a rare you'll have election day it's the other time i think next year you'll have such a thing mmm I see okay so they're all these are there so many different aspects aspects we talked about one with no no this is well this is what I remember ever is great the areas of expertise one of the many and I want to just bring up over here where are we here we are ok this is if you're interested in seeing our webinar from from a couple years ago where we spoke only about daylight savings I just brought the link that you can you can take a look over there and finish this one and you can see the bat webinar about the daylight savings let's move on to the kiddush which is our main topic today rabbi ever and let's let's start with there any does Madame issues time-bound issues with kiddush that we could start with case of kids of course has an early kids to be on shabbos we're talking about another shop skittish um it is summer this is very relevant of course friday night lights in friday night you can make kiddush as early as plaquemine club which is a one and a quarter política hours before sunset in the winter that's really not so relevant because people don't make her leash Ava's in the winter it rare but rather they make his mind so if it is bedtime people typically most people make kids ready Huff dark it's where the dark my time come on for shoal make kiddush theory one has the ability even in the winter time to make kids from piper pizza so that would be lets say this week when next week it would be you said we said job this is going to start at four 445-5 so what time about is plug a minute say it's about I would say about 350 350 five four o'clock that's just guessing a stop in Baltimore a bet in Baltimore about four o'clock right correct so you can start chaves as early as four o'clock or before that a little bit so someone will refill so what's a long shot yeah you sure that the 430 imagine aren't too many people are going to do that enough prezzo know that all the end is interesting it sako about the latest time to make kids that's apparently no but if a person for captain was unable to make kiddush friday night let season was hospitalized thinkin all drives afternoon you would make up the Shabba skittish shavano right all the way up until sunset even had to sunset this discussion high school besides a mushy she only don't say mushishi at night but by day you actually make you separate offering ok touché if you didn't say then right on Friday night right off let's say you didn't have great puse anything that bread because you can make it easy on bread right now you can make up breath right now you may go Brett because he didn't have any of that so you can make it up until shabbos shabbos day through shops that correctly three shops and of course the would you lose this kid is just to be back up soon it's very important that people realize that and whenever you make kiddush both the night kid a shot at a kiddush kid has to be blocking sudah which means you have to eat a meal time the kids what does a meal constitute friday night typically means you make a mighty and that's your meal should have to eat for the meal wanna see it at least the COS ice which is the size of a golf ball to constitute a suitor by day of course people will either eat the size of when i eat there soon both by night and by day ideally suppose see the conveyor that's two-possession google what's not to love awesome ebuddy have it already been thread you haven't one is enough what is enough now if you eat if you if you that has a role which washing as well with your profs right if you're going to eat to golf ball sizes which is advice then you wash with the brother if you only one golf ball size of brain workers ice then you don't want to die with it without the broccolis thought you may come only Beckham IC engine- it was an annual filial obligation for this for the sooner without a question of course by day by day the common practice of course people go to a kiddush right people by day people go to a to a kiddush where the in cake that constitutes the suit you're not yet to sue the shabbos with that you haven't fulfilled your obligation of the seuda at that point however as far as the lots of kids welcome Sudha that you fulfilled in other words so you were able to drink the kiddush great the kiddush can now or someone may be the wrong man kitty sure whoever and now that cake allows you to fulfill your mechanic obligation because you ain't the sooner which was cake which would be any news items I still have to go home and eat the birth ok so we do have a question some questions about about this I have an allergy to the mold that grows on grape skin consequently I make kiddush on multi ok you make it is on the on the brick I'm also allergic less seriously two moles including a sensitivity to East collar employees much East so i use not so only yeah you could make kiddush on lots of friday night right it would work and therefore trying to take the two Lance's and you see what you wash even if your bidding is not to usually one only german customs to wash at first and then make kiddush here even if your customers not to wash in this case you would actually wash sale to civilian and you would the kiddush would be the challah or the masa and you would instead of saying McGuffin you would say i might see right and that would be your finish answer at the same time right in the day they wouldn't have a problem with just they can they make kiddush on something else besides what we do you know should black beer or right snaps of course the steps should be reversed should hold reviews now that should have stood erect unless unless as well as you do that there are those that do unless you're very wrong that's just you know how do they told you it's ok one should not should make if they're making on my vadina that it should be a release come on Medina would be something there's a common drink like you mentioned beer and my relapse idealist alcoholic shasa factor pie scoop that you love iced tea or maybe I see a friend issues were different sharbat if a person is in at all shots of hot though there are she say you can make up bread my dad that's your only option that's a very big buddy other that's like if you start out you know usually you imagine the president can set it up can find something to go right to the ordinary enough soul to be able to make kiddush on during the day ok le chef says I'd like to know how much holla I need to eat if I'm unrestricted died Chavez is the only time of the week I need bread due to allergies Isis difficult people that are you know there are people that have celiac that have these illnesses I know people who personally cause violent lil than a putter from Sulu shabbos they would do is they would your kiddush and they would be I'd say kids welcome pseudo with grape juice or wine that can also serve as a great juice or wine itself serving as a meal food correct as much as you know down to the shops been your pots are they have to drink a certain amount of this rodeo some case was about four ounces or so but if you didn't make kids you didn't kiss you meant to drink reviews in addition to the limo that you drank to be a snitch but Sir the different opinions on ok ok so now but if a person is not violated a little bit just the travelers are trying to cut back and cut back and so on then then they would eat you know they would take to to to calais or two roles for two masses or 11 and they would make up idea they would eat at the very minimum a kiss a piece of the item the direct works best with them which is a golf ball size there's a normal size so because ice but then again we don't you wouldn't wash you would wash without without making broad well let someone else paid off this land for you okay that could work I've roamed asked to any post can permit eating now amazonas who's as actual kiddush as long as what makes the kids at home afterwards prior to shop state sued there's a big discussion emotion about this which is beyond the scope of our discussion but in general if a person in general the census of the most pi skin is that if a person wants to eat it a kiddush they need to make ms itís on something and he take his eyes to that designers doesn't have to be cake by the way first of all to be something healthier like flat breads number one if they have your short kid number two is linguini salad is a is more of a column I see Coderre it's not a possible piston which means it's not a cake you would never bench on it right it's a but the brothel would still be the situs and Allah mishka on on those items and it would serve as your suitor without without a question ok ok if you use measurements and as kiddush Malcolm Sudha and then you eat a suit at home do you make kiddush again ok everybody is your kids your shul and then you went home that's the case and you had a student's right these are you so you know you don't have to make it at home unless it was with everybody you come home and typically there's more than one person there there's several people that are their family their guests and so on if that's the case then if everyone heard kids already in Sheol and a dessous de sort of meaning the zionist of the busyness item under the rice then everyone's benighted kiddush I want us fulfill the obligation of kiddush and therefore you really don't me to make you know there are opinions and there are opinions I'd say you should it's a custom I think it's just a minute mini golfer remember the grub brings in anything for it could be just sit in a house lobby we'll do it because it is surah because now you're going to wash but saw what another was kiddush you had right and you were yet to kitchener percent if anything I might see now process to be dangerous with the careful at this medic because if simplest tire at night their insurer and the entire family heard kids that was tired not some shells don't allow don't have cash at night because at night is more difficult to rely on the Miz onus factor other words at night many points came hold you have to make I might see this kiddish is min at Tiger the entrepreneur Chavez but the kiddush at nine is more Hummer it's all profit so it's not just such as a coffin also cocaine it's it's a whole surah it's a whole form of kiddush so now the issue is it suppose Tyra typically people some shoals our show has a kid so that means kids just recited and people eat like they wanted a shot as kids much more elaborate than shops kids so there's all sorts of Zionists and then you know helps us and the works so now let's fight I tired right so now that if everyone has heard kid is already if that kiddush yontiff at night and everyone ate at that she'll kiddush when up when everyone goes home and is sitting at the table and they say oh let's make kids I could do every shot it's just cuz we make it as a jewel that's a problem because I say no no need skittish it was education are you talking about a problem i suggest you say then extrapolate from the fact that sometimes I'm Chavez Day everybody makes addition shul and they put when they come home they make kiddush again because just the barrio dolphin correct okay honor because if you want to drink wine or grape juice you have to make the barber goes in anyway right but that doesn't work for yomtov at night or shall we at night if you had a kids ride on shabbos octave at night because you made the kitchen you everybody fulfill the obligation and there's no reason to make kids should get them on the whole inside one kid might and therefore its muscle at all and that was not a desert I've never thought of that but it did you look at people and I'll do in your time no I can imagine somebody might do with correct I see okay that's interesting okay I'm if Steve ass if some does not want to keep Mazzone is at a kiddush with not a drink of grape juice or wine suffice lets us put on some sack if you're stuck if you're if you're stuck then you put your choir adventures or reviews as we as we mentioned earlier why would have to build to do that that's awesome sack right so write it down without imagined so person knows he doesn't want to eat anything at the kiddie she just wants to arrange with grape juice but why would what put himself into that situation now here's a case the case let's say let's say you're a kid I'll way had to Morris I love the love part I'd specials at park heights that I haven't finished wood spoon it's 80 degree 90 degree day outside okay and I know kids let's say my shoulder so now after shul rights 11-1130 I want to walk over to me to come there should think I'm hot I don't want I don't want it I don't want to make any one cake I'd rather wait like at home and he to those food at home I'm not interested a cake I magical dimension but I'm thirsty i want i just walked a mile my life i walk another mile alright so i want water or soda or something you can't drink anything telling me kid you can't be anything like a kiddush so now or I want to I want to eat some little on but it's not enough as I to sit there till I can't take care of the problem I don't want to fill up on Cake so now the issue is how do you how do you how do you rectify the situation so again it's true for moisture which are not going to get into but generally speaking the ideal way then that's what this person suggesting is then just take some grape juice a 4-ounce the grape juice or wine Adele so you're saying because you feel that's enough for very of a seat of a video of it situation of a racket I'm having have a choice I had this once and when I was in cuddle in San Diego this is in 1989 so we had a program in Las Vegas okay so we're talking 20 26 years ago it was shabbos Shira when did they change a clock down here is an idea that it was some that a whole story which is this interesting trip in those days Las Vegas only had one shore or the dike shoulder was no Rob there was no how about house there was no Road of the show there was no presence at all so the cuddle we had actually come on San Diego we had three programs there that year what actually I cassius was not conscious yet 14 PESA rush cuddle like what and I was there I was in I was in shops as well anyway I candidate for shabbos to be the call it scholar residence or a cuddle program whatever whatever it is and it showed they were but besides speaking Arabic hounded me to divert Cabal shamans phenomena now how do you make kiddush friday night in shul some initials have the custom saying the custom is to give it to a child think if they were my god the adult is not allowed to drink because he's not getting that in your meal so how does a child so the shadows think about that permissible to chop an adult can't drink that kiddush because he's knows kiss mama sudah so I make kiddush and when I finished making kiddush I looked around and there were no kids coming for the wine Oh decided to make a split-second decision on what to do of course he could call anybody was shabbos plus I write it was wasn't a situation so we made a las vegas deal and then is I actually drank four ounces of the one okay Rangers I remember it was on his spine and then you dad it's ounces that was six ounces because I'd like to blow him off to the Eighth Circuit ish and then for answers to have the surah and that was the kitchen was soon and then I didn't mean kids later Chris Paul Paul said look at where I'm staying he meant can make kiddush but my side already fulfilled my obligation of kiddush at that point on on that remember that the story vivid that's a most or internship enough for now so is it well I don't know what else having a vegas vegas always can have story stable shoulder those a salir videos yeah i'm sure what you're making an important point that in order to if you want to be 0 SE the the great use the grape juice as your meal you have to you have to drink you're saying six ounces call right now I believe this will today's some hold that the blue blood counts okay in the four else but but I'll component for sure you need four ounces maybe six mmm okay let's keep going with it with the chats jakub says it's not really related to kid issues question but is it related to column if one child likes one type of collar another likes in another time okay like a bagel one likes a beggin one likes months okay that works should I make a motion all together under the collar cover or should each child make a brothel on their own latium Mishnah be the way with for sure fees child doesn't wish that certainly is fine I'll work you could do that it's not here the fact sometimes for sinister people who kids make a kiddush day no house that's certainly fine alternatively if you take 101 you can hold one a lot like you know 11 but i'm just guessing that they probably want to have a more traditional my correct knowledge that's a problem at apiece officials if you're putting five together yeah i'm not sure if you'll have a la commission I don't know by this I see them don't they make it on 12 yeah I'm not sure how that works with higher I don't know visit will you make more but they won't countenance for a la commission I don't know I think that's maybe a quiz question is there when you make when you add more flowers they'll counter can't you make it a mushy on down on for Hollis let's say they're all in all through all the glue I'm not sure I would think so it's a good question okay we'll look into that if you get if that was your question exactly get in touch with us and info and started dash canada award or call us at 410 4844 110 our new website is supposed to be going up soon which should have the ability of chap of chatting with us so maybe that'll work next week have to be changing clock okay mmm aviva says did you say that if you don't need enough mazama sensual then you have not fulfilled your cash obligation what is the status that we can issue made or heard ensure right if you told us that's correct if you don't eat a coziness of busyness mmm ensure when hearing the rough for first of all one other point of our kids shows the person making kids has to have come father to be polite to see the people and the person listening has to have come out into the i'd say so let them just give two examples where the Rob makes kid is she has died see as in mind to be might see everybody and all people listening that are waiting to the dig in right after I wanted to be I'd say that as in the case in your home when I'm a kiddush it's the same thing you could have just by example you can have a case where of the some event kiddush later to standing there with his family make kiddush and someone's listening to the kiddush but the polyp boss only had come for his family's he doesn't see the people behind directly as I'm so it's best to Sam who ever wants to listen is Yates that's the best way to do it but furthermore down to a kiddush and set up I don't want to eat this I would take it home and the Robin kitchen heard every word but they weren't mohabbat because I'd only kid I'll eat at home I think they changed when they change their mind after we think I'm over here kiss again because they didn't have the proper cup on the next step is once you had come out to be I to the road santa monica levites you right all that's in place now unity deck is ice if you don't then you need to your kids you get at home so as you should you should not eat less than because I until you have to pick Alec his ice of cake which in your mind again you compared to a golf ball and that's the amount of cake or other words and I said you need to eat ok I promise how much time can elapse between one skittish and the student does he need to have his food ready to go on its plate so they can start eating immediately after hitting kiddush yeah so the no real number here it's it should be done as soon as possible right you know they're gonna make a break like to get up go upstairs and take a walk about right right correct you're just waiting for everybody the Taoiseach moves sometimes a person shul this person goes back from his trip right this president reliable is back I don't have a cicadas meaning I'm contending I'm going getting food correct but it should be people should bear it will should get in the habit as soon as they make kiddush let the split-second orion over race pushed her I'll rushed away to the kitchen it should be done it was possible look there's a minute number two later some places it is time that these people setting off its it's not exactly but again the house should be there and it should happen as soon as possible mmm MGK yeah so if i want to make kiddush in the morning and there is no masomenos like for example we're eating aha cool cookies on pizza this is the reason why a lot of times there's no condition issues one of the many reasons if they don't need to Broxton donec abraca box of course then is the big thing of the maxwell's the water and therefore in order to make design is on pace off so he can box and therefore no any item that's designed this the definition is good Brock's because the only from our world how much me to done product on face off is alpha matzah and then these mats has been changed because become at zamil and baked right what a lot of the a lot of them the baked goods that they're selling now on Pesach have moved towards bringing a list of my tender starch I've moved using Ted storage around the flowers if I guess because the taste is just as good or similar and it satisfies one word ball more people right you can people who don't eat Brooks will eat only these these Iraqis but people who good proxy and rustlers confuses my grandmother Sean would send us I grew up in st. Louis follows has in their rabbit and the big tree was my grandmother would pack up a box of first brothers pesach potato starch cakes mutant army was that terrible rocks would pack up those cakes and ship it would get ahead and hire yontiff this was a this was a big street but that's a shock all right you can't me kiss my suitor Saudis question is do I need to drink six ounces by myself or my ecology or make I might see that's all yeah what he said he's a kiddush so he needs to drink this shows yes yeah or and his wife needs to drink how much for us if you're at Kennedy and you're making there's no how much much going mini let's say it will talk about Charlie they don't want to wash nine o'clock in the morning and now they want to make kiddush for them and their wife let's say they want a normal shop is that you cake right and then they go learn whatever it is right such pace up morning let's a coma shops call my adoptive so that is the question is asking i'm gonna make kiddush right my wife he's going to drink the six ounces and his wife needs to drink for Alice's dry and then having a shotgun cookies exactly or make a mighty odd matzah okay it seems that there was a cutout and sound i'm not sure exactly where there was and he says it's not clear how long the gap between kiddush in the meal can be on the answer is not is not a clean job we ought to get there is no clear answer the answer is that you just have to get to the table and eat but there isn't a 60 seconds or a minute as soon as possible hmm so it's reasonably possible okay okay so rabbit happy we mentioned him in the email that we sent out that there are some people that don't make kiddush on friday night between six and seven for the six and seven the blackout time for making kiddush i was watching somebody's house I was he actually I was going to eat it we were true and he looks at his watch and he says okay we better we better hurry we gotta we gotta run home around to make kiddush I said what's going on he said what's almost six o'clock and at that point it was twenty years thirty years ago I had no idea what he was what he was exactly was talking about um so let's elaborate a little bit on that which is committing a bit I Stanley what you wrote an article on that yes topic yes there's a young is it one of these it isn't in the back of the shower is money no I don't ask us about it wasn't a teller at my tell where I have a column of questions and answers okay buddy maybe you forgot already maybe a year ago or so and I addressed it there um there's a bear ate in the princess and their high school is more of a city minute right this way why would you buy a costume right severe associate mattis minute every hour of the of there's something which is known as Missoula's and every hour has a muzzle to it the muzzle well and everyone if people are wondering well what was all sorts of the get very interesting is that the guy you should days of the week reflect the first muzzle of the day guys I'll explain every hours at different mazal a different conservation and that has to the 77 results right now exist the muzzle the one of the muzzle which is which is the hour of hesitant damage so speak would be the muzzle of Madame Madame is Mars and that mazal comes up every every seven hours in other words a different results different one muscle is the Commodore vana setec kite love each one represents a different star planet kind of being mercury etc my name is Mars and so shocked is a nerd and so on so in order that sham is the first hour shabbos is this Mazel madam and therefore what's the first hour of Shabbos well we go here this hospital Comiskey it goes by their set hours cavora so it will be 6 p.m. 2 7pm is Mazel madam and everybody are some people who have this ability of that reciting kiddush now what's important to know for those who are dying is that it really depends with you what happens if you say kiddush between six and seven your life sentence it's fine it's not a time that they hold it to start the shops I'll come back the days a week a minute because it's fascinating this point but but it's just important to note that six to seven is really wise but the article interesting is that when there was standard time change in November 1980 in 1883 i thought was anything any for public might have been actually laid with mag and good stuff but was around then so so when the standard time change happened different cities changed our time physically and therefore for example people who were might wear a muzzle out of the Baltimore would really be doing a little bit of a different different time comes up to six and delete 606 2706 okay for the West you are in the time zone like Detroit would be approximately 630-730 adapt time at that time you know as a few persons might but in Detroit their market for about 6 30 7 30 now there now things out days correct port and was daylight saving time will be 7 30 days so where's at 67 so we Philadelphia which is in the middle of time zone 17 Baltimore west of that will rest to fill it so what's unreasonable it was it was an artificial change of the clock when they chained to make zones everybody at the time is is it no concept only a little about hundred forty years old before that every city had their own time took too much they edited okay every city had it on time based on what I say I'm is good day but I'll component everybody turned their clock and Boston is east of the time zone Eric Easter all change our clocks 21 minutes and there's etiology or Mac been on Mazel madam it's about 5 30-9 p.m. 2 639 I had in summer will be six tonight 730 tonight now people saying you know what I'm tagay them and if you don't have been it then you don't have to keep this minute again it's emitting primarily accident but what's interesting is the days of the week the way the guy in call it the nations of the world in an English or French match the first muscle that we know of in the morning the mazel at six a.m. on sunday morning is the muzzle of how i did say family english son son what day is it sunday sunday okay something which we call it the whole world cost sunday right that's all world the whole english-speaking world sunday the 6am mazal is sam monday guess what the mazel monday 6am is an the Govardhan trashy speaks about it's a promising in a written in other places guess what the muzzle of six a.m. monday is what a monday sound like which which which lets the body you tell me monday I'm with a right one monday is moon so frazzled from monday morning 6am huh is the moon okay tuesday and i got your French okay and I said Tuesday French you know say you know the same Morrison from Yunnan st. tues that get with you anymore you don't say too is done your parents mark mark mark today so another guy shall then they took they may have taken the names of the week thank the dates the days of the week the names of days a week from our muzzles correct from adults exactly say they did the world other I results and it's the world at large shabbos is guess which celestial bodies Saturday's sounds like Chavez's Saturday fan that's the mazel shop toy shops I am you know French the other ones also so let's get back to someone we have to close it out since let's let's talk about their ever have to come back the kiddush permit one of the things we've said we can talk about is sitting or standing for kids should you cinder Stan so there there's a few customs correct let's understand the reasons everybody should follow their family custom Rises the three been hoggin it's really one of the autumn Julian officer with the other two and that is as follows there are those who stand for kiddush because when you make kiddush when you recite kiddush you're getting atheists and through bunch all created the world right you're giving testimonies I stand the whole friend you stand why because an eight or witness stairs when is that the witness stand seem call it a stand right because he's standing so therefore you're giving ages so you stand nowadays they sink but ok ok that's the law to stem right um the the reason to sit but thanks are you saying there's Sonny of stand and hold ugly because you're standing by a termite lulu's ages and even drink stand and I'll some people y'all drink standing find that I guess yeah now the other on the other hand most we want to make kiddush every big might see somebody most people are there other people the table so therefore when you might see somebody it's better than a curious this means we're set together like this guys hear that guys they're all over the place we're sitting around the table it's a much better fear so therefore it being by to you and the whole meal etc then technically is you need to sit there for some of a bidding to sit because it wanted time for crease and then some makeups are something could compromise and they say okay for the eight is part of kids will stand by hold on now what I mean mites you with the coughing but I remember what sits in an indoor track that's more than it's likely she rachet meaning i think i feel i don't know strongly particular did and tells i think i believe did that that's the you know it well I remember all I think that I think the more of a sedition mini be sustained for Mac time follow shop stood and that between six and seven since you are my father's homestead remember eating somewhere and there was three different individuals families and through the ribbon all go well my father made it standing the Baba's I think sat for all kiddush and there was another guest that stands that's good and sad so I come in no one is available sitting understanding when I have people over i tell them they could do whatever even if they do same with me i sell them whatever they want to do it they can usually follow the rumble patches a few big bikes in them it is your name day should do what you're doing either standard sit if you're sitting then they said the stands they make the old kiddush something is followed by legal advice let's go to do but i think people or people do whatever they want okay but the head is often on some stairs on sir let's go to some of the last questions before we have to finish our prompt says if i make you the shower motions kingdom that's a nursing home for elderly people but don't want to eat there can i recite kitchen without without meeting and have them alive on their own eating yes but someone needs to drink the kitten in other words um you could you can't really judge for them because it's good actually well bye-bye welcome to see this is a sandoval and that you could you don't have to do the kiddush at night Kid Rock often normally to make up how is how you're going to drink occasion I'd if you don't evening suit Oh correctly this my dad was with him their conditions I make a ver track often and yet I'm not drinking usually when I make a big run and then and write a bra food I have enough right now you don't think like that only to protecting that I can actually give it to you to somebody else it's like the bursa soon under hope I've been on Chavez Day you and come today's trickier lyrics its will that work forgot already that they address that but they have to present I don't work it can be mighty them because long as we might see somebody inventions can I want us to be careful you know to make sure that there's at least one person that's really being I'd say in other words sometimes it go missions and the people are people can comprehend their their loyal a note right there out of it so if somebody is holding in it and somebody is uit that Kennish and you can make for them I go if you go to friend in a nursing home so take a blow and and you make a proper that because they can't if the person is totally unable to really be right to the Mitzvah then you can't make a bracha listen right that's that's a good point I said is the color of the wine make a difference through making kiddush you could make kiddush on any cousin why I believe it says it's a hitter to make a red wine certainly pay something there's a satyr but even by regular by a regular friday night there's a hint or but nonetheless you could make a white wine it's not a problem okay Moshe says shop this morning with my condition is honest then you wash the food that you have to make a bracha corona for the Mazzone so you make kiddush yeah piece cake and then you're going to move directly into your meal rights as tricky use you you want should um okay one should ideally not design as if they're about to wash that's a proxy and she's right but he didn't realize it so it's going to be really utilize Ori or they're not serving Amelia needs hungry now and then it decides it was a tequila she's at apartments and Sadie's invited for the kitty shenanigans invited to sit down for the meal no but that I write it down break it is a break so they set it up it's gonna be a lot of my that's a break the question is if you he wants to know now okay now he's ready to wash didn't make me I'll broken from yet so it shouldn't make a question that's all you're eating this is a tricky okay so they'll be in touch with us somebody's it depends on if you eating during the meal more okay so much you could get in touch with where ever ever intended month yeah cabassa for Carson make skittish ensure and no kids are present does he drink so that was my kids'll in Las Vegas and that is that exactly if I would say with that it doesn't need to make kiddush again at home all theoretically if he drank a few drank kiddush if he if he drank I remember if you drank a reverse ensure my look Bob in a Revere right then his jokes I doesn't make it home now obviously this people waiting an old kid in other words it does not write it to that and he bi t with that kid is shul but he should look I feel in other words it's a kids there's you give it to the kids and not be into the kitchen go home hey kiddush again and eat his meal but if there's no kids there and he's stuck no kids I really should make kiddush that's really fascist you know wait the doors they know kids you want to drink no kids you want a drink right then then they really should not make kiddush but if they did in a forgotten a mistake the kid refused on the spot you know it cetera dumb that's what you would do ok there are some questions about women making kiddush before nominee and it's a whole nother fixing take us into a whole nother topic so that it depends under their various been honey but you can't touch upon it ok um there are well first gets an issue of women needed for Dominic the bear arm the prevalent meaning in the base yeah most vehicles in the United States is to a lot of girls is to recommend girls before they come to school they die man in school many of them diamonds between first and second period so they don't just walk in a diamond and therefore the total classroom so you're talking about you know that diamond shatters told maybe 930 so they eat at home so the prevalent meaning that there are those that say that took at the peril vinegars is that women say brought the girls in rocks at home with that the United Tyra obligation of tequila and and the rights acquainted behind Robin Robin whether women have to what they have to daven so as far as eating before Dominic they once they said Broca's they've been joined say according to some be showing them and therefore there will therefore that that's enough to allow them to eat turning our weekday we need a wet day not issue a shabbos morning they're difficult login here some will say no don't make kiddush because you know the woman is not really high of an kiddush yet right at this point it really is down chakras to be an obligation and therefore a woman could just you know savor office and in any enough if her bras is dominating that's all she's going to divert then would seem to be sure to make kiddush Alyssa trooper much also it speaks about maybe it's give me later for most becomes a kind of pie skits oh really some will tell you don't make kiddush you don't have to make kiddush because you're not you know I'm job yet others are not you that not that one step process and I you you could be a kiddush and therefore you know you want to go ahead and finish ok if you want to follow up if you think know how to build a nation for a woman's going to show land just wants to drink at the kiddush but doesn't want it eat cake and so on ok hate so would be is that she makes kiss at home eats the healthier designs that she wants to eat I see like a bowl of Cheerios right or or right which is a healthy resigned to stand cake hey guys it's all on yeah when she gets to shul she's around here kiddush so how'd she get what she wants to show she could drink she could I have to know she want a salad on have sales and I saw okay that's that's a good idea okay remember I think we've come to the end of our discussion always a pleasure to have you on 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