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We're starting a new week. We uh of
course ended off the week with a nice uh
interesting twist where uh you know we
uh wanted to fulfill uh the mitzvah of
that mitzvah that uh to show off uh good
things that you do but also in the name
of hem but also to uh to be clean and we
offered a deal to the uh the
Asher Mesa and his uh partner in crime
Moshe
uh to uh ask them to provide us proofs
provide the world proofs uh that we're
charging $10,000 per conversion
at least $10,000 $10,000
the 10,000 levels
10,000
$10,000
$10,000 $10,000 to $20,000
$10,000
and as I told you we are expecting uh
we're expecting something interesting
you know we said we're going to offer
them a lot of money since all they care
about is they constantly mention uh how
much money they think they I have in my
pocket. It's very interesting how people
always care about how much money I have
rather than how much money they have.
But uh nonetheless, you know, they say
that we're making millions of dollars
off of conversion.
It's at least $10,000. 10,000
10,000 levels.
10,000
10,000 $10,000
$10,000$10,000
to $20,000.
$10,000
$10,000. And anyone that has dealt with
me in regards with conversions, which
Boashem has been, many people knows that
we charge exactly zero zero dollars.
We've never charged a single dollar for
conversions. The bedin charges money,
but uh even that we try to help the
people with uh within regards to see if
we can get them the discounts, whatever
we can do to put a good word because the
bed doesn't pay us a single dollar. Uh
but uh you know but Asher Mesa and
Moshero refuse to believe that they
believe that we're uh they know the
tricks as Mosha said in another video.
My issue with you is not so much the
conversion amount of money you you
charge or you make out of them. Be it
$1,000 or $2,000 if you hold their their
certificate of conversion to extended
periods of two to three years to make
sure they don't leave your show. We know
that trick as well. But that's not the
point. I'm glad you're involved in
conversion and and you're helping bring
more more Jews that are out there in
even though it had a very hefty uh
amount. Now, I'm sure people out there
who have gone through your program will
probably uh speak up and and I welcome
people to let people know. Let the truth
be known because I'm all about let the
truth be known, not this uh this gimmick
of I'll GIVE YOU $400,000 IF YOU CAN
BRING up and show a check. Come on, Yo.
We know how the the the conversion
business is all about and how it works.
My my gosh. I I used to work with Rabbi
Lairfield. I know how it's done. I know
how rabbis like yourself will come and
stick to the bed then and get the
kickbacks and get all of you the goodies
under the hand as it were and then say,
"Oh, I'm not making any money. Come on.
I know the tricks. I know the trade. I
know what you've gone through. This is
why I have gone and said, "You know
what? We've got to figure them without
making a penny." Now, good for you. You
may have a big donor, a uh someone
that's that's underwriting these
conversions. And if that's the case,
that should come up to you. But I still
get calls from people complaining of the
$10,000 levels of the $2,000 level. You
know, there's different levels. You're
willing to negotiate. You're like a used
car salesman. I CAN'T GET 10,000. I'LL
GET 5,000. Can't get 5,000. I'll get
2,000. Can't get 2,000. GIVE ME $1,000.
I'll prolong your conversion and hold
through the papers. Now, tell me you
didn't do that.
Instead of responding with the evidence
that you should have if you're going to
make such bold claims uh by saying that,
you know, in multiple videos uh that you
uh know for sure that I charged this
$10,000 or even $20,000 per person for
conversion,
it's at least $10,000. 10,000
10,000 levels.
10,000
$10,000
$10,000 $10,000 to $20,000.
$10,000.
What did they say? Like two school
children, they made three different
videos saying, "Oh, you know, maybe he
charges this way, maybe he charges that
way. We heard it from people." There's
there's I believe three families he
converted here in South Florida that at
the end of the day couldn't afford the
conversion and he refused to give him to
give them the the certificates. Uh
who would be who is he? The bait or or
Yon.
Yun.
Okay.
But if you know for a fact you
No. Okay. Well, yes. People told me
about the story, you know.
Wait, so Yaron gives the certificate? I
thought the base end didn't
I don't know the insides of the story,
you know. So, I'm just telling you what
I heard from reputable people. That's
it. Now, on that basis, by the simple
fact that I'm not saying it's a fact.
I'm just telling you that this is what I
heard when I just stated information
that I was told by many other people
that his program charges at least
$10,000 per person. Whether he keeps the
money or the court does, I don't care.
But for this, the sensitive little giant
is going to get all his feathers
ruffled, right? And that number is
nothing new. 10,000 is a going rate for
most of these online rabbis. And yes,
local courts when you live in a
community would charge you perhaps up to
$2,000.
But for this online program or these
type of online programs, this is a the
standard 10,000. You heard it from
people. Have you ever heard of Have you
ever heard of
Have you read those before or you
discount those just like you do the rest
of the Torah? But that my friends is
what we expected. Uh this is the reason
why uh when I told you that there is a
donor that's willing to pay them $10,000
for every single proof that they provide
that we charge $10,000 or really any
amount.
It's at least $10,000. 10,000
the 10,000 levels
$10,000
$10,000 $10,000 to $20,000
$10,000
$10,000.
Uh there was no worry and there was no
check to be written because there is no
proof that exists. Uh it's funny because
some of our students uh reached out to
us and said, "Uh, Rabbi, I'm sorry that
you're dealing with these losers and
also that I forgot to pay you the
$10,000."
It's at least $10,000. 10,000
10,000 levels. 10,000 [snorts]
10,000
$10,000
$10,000 to $20,000
$10,000
$10,000. [laughter]
You know, it's it's a it's just so
ludicrous and and it's not even a matter
of uh proving them wrong for their sake.
I know that there are really lost cases,
especially after the last three videos
that they came out where they pretty
much admit that their entire foundation
for trying to, you know, destroy our
name and spread rumors and so on. The
entire foundation of it is falling apart
because it doesn't exist. They heard
something from somebody. That's all they
have. They don't have any checks. They
don't have any email. They don't have
anything. They simp because it doesn't
exist. But what do they say? They
they're going to continue pressing it.
And writes in a comment, "No, maybe he
charges 9,999
or maybe he charges 5,000 or maybe just
well tell us what he charges." Well, the
reality is is I've told people what I
charge from day one. The the amount is
zero. That's it. We don't charge for
conversion. We simply feel bad that
people are uh you know are are going to
go through a process that's already
difficult enough with their family, with
their livelihood, with their job, with
their way of living and so on. for us to
make money on it is not exactly the way
that we're looking to make money. It's
simply not. If somebody wants to donate,
they're more than welcome to. But the
reality is not a single person has ever
been uh you know told that they're we're
not going to help them because they
don't have any money to donate or to
give or to anything. But Mosher and Asha
stand with their cases just like the
Tanva in last week's parad
where Mosheu went to the tan of
specifically trying to talk to them.
Trying to talk to them telling that
they're wrong. What do they say? They
responded in the par even if you take
our eyes out you take our eyes out we're
still not going to come. We're still not
going to do chuba. And unfortunately
that's what mao did. That's what do even
the says even at the gate of gay they do
not do chuva and the only reason we
bring this up time and time again is
simply because of you not because of
them I I personally believe they're lost
cases they're lost cases all they want
is to get more attention Asher wants a
debate like a like like some Christian
he wants to debate
with these loser rabbis which I've
challenged all to a debate and they
won't debate because they know they will
lose that's just the way it is ashamea
doesn't lose debate Okay. And it's not
because I think I'm brighter than
anyone, but it is because I think I'm
more intellectually honest than other
people.
What are we debating? You have a
different religion I care less about.
There's nothing to debate. And I've told
this to people a million times. As as
far as as far as debating. Why would you
debate with a liar that spreads rumors?
It's at least $10,000. 10,000
to$10,000 levels.
10,000.
$10,000.
$10,000.$10,000
to $20,000.
$10,000.
$10,000. It's another issue. And last
but not least, one of the reasons that
he's not qualified to debate, which
we'll talk about later today. But the
reason why we mention these things is
because it is important for the viewers,
the viewers that unfortunately do not
know what to believe, it's important
once in a while to show the viewers
what's true and what's not. If a person
is going to go out of their way and
multiple times say something and you
say, you know what, you keep saying
this, put, you know, let's put your
money where your mouth is. Show us the
proof of what you say. You say that your
own Ruben is taking $10,000 from people.
Show it. It's at least $10,000.
$10,000.
10,000 levels.
10,000.
$10,000.
$10,000. $10,000 to $20,000.
$10,000.
$10,000. Instead of showing it, what do
they say? They start crying about the
fact that no, maybe it's a different
way. We know the tricks. Maybe it's
this, maybe it's that. And again, the
offer stands. And in fact, it increases.
It increases. Now, for you guys, we're
now going to pay $50,000. $50,000 for
every single person that they can bring
a legitimate proof that we charge the
money for conversion in any way. Whether
it's the bed dean gave me money, a
single dollar, any money. Forget the
$10,000, any money, a single dollar that
the bit didn't gave me or the person
paid me money for the sake of
conversion. Not he donated money out of
his own heart. If he donated money out
of his own heart, that's his business. I
didn't tell him to donate that he has to
donate for me to help him. But if you're
telling me that I charged him some type
of membership fee, you know, cuz they
say maybe I have a membership fee, a
monthly fee that you have to pay in
order to deal with me. Hashem only knows
how many hundreds of people I deal with
every single day and help them for free
and never even get a donation for for
years and and simply continue to help.
But they say there's a membership fee or
there's a bed fee or there's some type
of other scam. I don't know how do they
know all these scams. Maybe you're the
one you should be looking in the mirror
instead. But nonetheless,
if they can prove in any way, shape, or
form that the bet gave me any money or
anybody ever gave me any money for the
sake of conversion, please provide the
evidence. You'll get $50,000 per person.
Per person. So, you could find a family
of five, 6, 7, 18, 20 people in a
family. You got yourself a million
dollars. You could buy a nice house over
here in Gome that you live in where you
could buy a nice house for a million
dollars. But the reality is they'll
never have anything because it doesn't
exist. If I made money off of
conversion, I'd be happy to tell you
about it. It's another way to pay for
the yeshiva. Quite frankly, there's
nothing wrong with charging for
conversion. It requires an enormous
amount of work to prepare the people, to
sponsor them, to help them, to answer
their questions, and so on. We simply
chose not to cuz my rough says no. And I
do as my rough says. Simple. We don't
charge a membership fee. We don't charge
a uh I don't know appreciation fee. We
don't charge a you're a uh non-Jew fee.
We don't charge a you are a Jew. We
don't charge any fees. You want to
donate, you can donate. You don't want
to donate, don't donate. Simply we care
less about it. And provides one way or
the other. That's the reason why our
organization has so much blessing. But
people that have
like Asher and can't fathom and
understand how is it that they're
growing. so fast. How is this that
they're doing so much and they're
staying in the same hole they've been in
for the last 15 years without doing
something illegal or doing something
unethical, without doing simply
business? It must be that they're doing
something. Reality is we're not. You
want to continue saying bad things,
saying creating claims.
I actually thank you for it because
every single time you say something bad
about me, all of the mitzvot that you've
made, which Hashem only knows if you've
actually made any, but nonetheless,
whatever few you actually made, go to my
account anyway. So, thank you very much
for the for the bad uh report and the
bad names and the bad videos, you
continue doing it. The reality is Abu
Tai, we do these videos for the sake of
the public. Anyone that wants to learn
is welcome to learn. Anyone who doesn't
want to learn wants to go learn heresy
goes to Asha. You can find his name in
one of his many heretical pages. The
reality is that it's important to
clarify things to the public because
sometimes people fall trapped to some of
these because it looks like they know
what they're talking about. It looks
like they're trying to help people. But
quite frankly, I don't have 100% proof.
like I'm not going to claim like I do,
but I do have legitimate proof of text
messages, no actual financial
transactions that they do on the other
hand actually do what they blame me. But
that's a different story. So the reality
is
that it's important to show what you are
and what you're not. If you're doing
work, you want to charge for it, by all
means charge for it. And as long as
you're honest and you have integrity and
you're clear about it, there's no
problem in charging for whatever work
that you do. But if you're not charging
and people say that you are, if you're
doing all the work for free and people
say that you're doing it for money, it
is something that's a little bit
annoying to say the least. But
nonetheless, you have to make sure that
people know. Now, for the few people who
have not watched the con uh conversion
videos that we have, we have a four-part
series for our conversion series, which
we did years ago, maybe five, six, seven
years ago. In that video and probably
other videos as well that I discuss
conversion, I discussed the fee of the
bed that simple. It's not it's it's at
that time was around $2,000 or so.
Hashem, we've succeeded in getting a few
people discounts. Some people have had
heavy discounts where they would get if
it was a family, we get a few people in
for a much lesser price, even half the
price. But nonetheless, it's not a fee
that goes to us. It goes to the bed. The
bed dean has a right to charge a fee.
Why? They have lights. They have water.
They have sewage. They have employees.
They have stuff to pay for. You want to
convert, you have to pay the money. You
don't want to convert. Don't convert.
It's not It's not a It's nothing wrong
with them charging money. But to say
that we're the ones that's taking the
money is completely obnoxious.
Completely obnoxious. So again, the
offer increases. Doesn't stand.
increases $50,000 for anyone that can
provide proof. Proof we charge $10,000
or $5,000 or $2,000 or $1. $1. There you
go. $1 I charge for conversion. It's at
least $10,000. $10,000
10,000 levels
$10,000
$10,000 $10,000 $10,000 to $20,000
$10,000
$10,000. This Abu Tay Khim is an offer
that will stand and we'll see what kind
of jokes they they make of themselves
from doing it. But the question is why
is it that they're hating? Why is it
that someone that claims to be a Jew,
which uh is a different story of its
own, someone that claims to be a Jew,
why would they have a problem with what
we're doing? They're saying, "Oh, we're
talking against good rabbis." What good
rabbis? Rabbis that make fun of the
Torah, bring Christian missionaries to
uh to to their synagogues and put the
entire community in danger. Uh rabbis
that distort the Torah. What rabbis do
we make fun of? These are rabbis that
you're going only
saying what the Rambam would say. We're
only saying what the PKI would say.
People that are distorting the Torah
that put Kalis in danger. That's who
we're going against. Simple. Those are
the people that we go against. We don't
make fun of people personally usually
just because there's really nothing no
value there unlike these clowns. But
nonetheless, it's a uh it's a uh
important to know that all of these
different things that we're doing, every
time I say something, I have to get
rabbitical approval. Why? Cuz like a
good little boy, I have to go to my
rabbi. I ask if I have an idea or he has
an idea or anything else. We discuss it.
We see what's good, what's bad.
Sometimes we have to go even to even
other rabbis for second, third, fourth,
and fifth opinions. But nonetheless, we
always try to tell you things that were
100% sure of. Unlike these people, they
just throw things into the wind and just
simply decide someone told them
something or someone called them or
someone said this or someone said that
and therefore they're going to believe
it. That's not what you're supposed to
do. You're supposed to verify things.
When I was on Wall Street, almost 20
years on Wall Street, people would come
up to me and tell me, "Listen, I have
this stock idea." Okay, great. What's
the stock idea? And they throw some
symbol at me. I said, "Okay, great.
Threeletter symbol, four letter symbol,
one letter symbol. Thank you very much.
What's the idea?" Oh, that's the idea.
That's not an idea. That's a three. It's
three letters, four letters, five
letters. That means nothing to me. Give
me the idea. Give me proof. Give me
evidence. Give me research. Give me some
type of work. you've invested into why
this is a good idea. Just telling me
that A is a good company, which by the
way is for Agyant Technologies, by the
way, that's a I don't know if they're
still in business, but nonetheless is a
company that uh we invested in 15 20
years ago. So telling me that Agyant is
a good company or B or C or ABC or SIE
or whatever it is is something good
doesn't mean anything. You have to give
me research. You have to give me some
type of evidence, some type of proof
that what you have is worth something.
These people are not even I can't even
call them amateurs. If they worked for
me on Wall Street, they'd get fired
within 5 minutes. Fired within 5
minutes. You're telling me that you're
going to make videos to make fun of
somebody and and and blame them or
accuse them of doing something simply
out of thin air? Yes. And that's exactly
the whole point of everything. Why is it
the whole point of everything? Because
that's exactly what they do with the
Torah. What they do to what they've done
to me personally, the whole reason I'm
mentioning it today is because that's
what they do to the Torah. If you
notice, I don't know if anybody watches
these people's videos, simply they have
five, 10, maybe maybe 15 sources they
keep mentioning over and over and over
again for 15 years. 15 years, the same
15 sources. Maybe they learned one
source a year. That's it. There's
literally more sources mentioned in a
single shure in any of our shim than
these people mention in 15 years. But
the reality is the crowd doesn't notice
it because the crowd they have are
ignorant people who don't know any
better and like to socialize. They like
to chitchat. They like to talk. They
like somebody telling them that
everything is okay and whatever their
beliefs are. Whether they're Christian
idol worshippers or they're something
else doesn't make a difference. And it's
important to know
doesn't like this type of people. Why?
Because when you take his entire ocean
of Torah and you simply summarize it
with 15 different things and you simply
summarize it with just a handful of
things that you learn and you just
decide this is the whole Torah
who says you've taken my Torah and just
simply thrown it in the garbage. And
that's what such people do.
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