09-25-2019 Sukkahs To Go Schach Mats

hello and welcome to stargaze monthly webinar held at our head offices in Baltimore Maryland joining me today is where we borrow a buyer again oh and I'm MIT Goldberg so today I think we'll have some fun everybody we're gonna talk about Sookie's on the go traveling suckers and hopefully we'll also get to his comments there is a never-ending questions about scoff minute so I can tell you I take a lot of them I avoid that whole problem because I don't have a half Matt what do you I do that's like true I do I do have some soft classmates will use oh I have slides that's why it's okay mm-hmm definitely good if they still if they'll so if they're still in shape mm-hmm I can use them okay so let's get started we have a presentation and go through so I found some interest this is we actually did this similar last year it was popular was very it was interesting so we decided to write that's what I have that I have to have me have a never be Franco Quebec or redoing okay here's interesting picture basic Abad in Venice events here you see this it's on a boat that's neat yeah it's pretty pretty interesting position ah it is like the missional right actually I have I used to have a one of those posters in my Sokka was giving all the different colors different kinds of circus so this is a this is a kosher so code as long as it wouldn't blow away in a win in the but a normal wind which would be on the on the on the ground I meaning on land even if it would be very very windy on the ocean as long as it and you just have to like you know whatever hold it down but if it wouldn't blow with the stock and the sucker wouldn't blow away and they're normal win on land that's how you judge it so they ride around the canals and I guess I'll tell ya they want to go in mmm-hmm that's pretty neat right okay next we have okay this is very similar at the same guys know this is a different place I don't even play I don't think it's a different country yeah really I think so I'm not sure witnesses see them actually it might be Houston they actually building last farm bill right so they're building the sukkah and but they just think it's a coach it's okay I mean it looks like it will be when it's done that's you know I mean if you want to relax and go on your trip there's another one we found this is bike cerca okay so I guess these these guys pedal around I don't know where they are in Central Park I'm gonna wear what see there and I don't know I believe it's a little Babaji operation and it's not I think so yeah doesn't say but I think I mean a Spanish hooker yeah I think you go to that website that's listed there petit suka calm and you you you put in you you good I think they will come to you otherwise they won't they won't come to issue with being in any of these circus while they're moving is there no so I could be in the back of the petticoat I realize fairly and the guy can be pedaling around them on yeah you're you're eating right but they actually it says flag me down step inside and shake so I don't think the point is so much to eat the yeah if the shape is a message you know it's like when this beat you can take those get those guys in New York you know they'll ride you around them like right but here they don't charge you would like that are the free should of I mean going to date more yes yeah okay so I think I'm saying is you can also call them or email them and they will come to where you are I don't even know what I like uber it's a super soaker right but but it's it's interesting now Murray eats Freight for such as now there's a floor at the bottom of this cyka not because the bottom here would be the floor and the floor is gonna be I don't see it but there's gonna be a floor inside there somewhere okay so let's go to the next one okay so this is the right it says in in the in the mission or like you mentioned chokin okay you can have a silk on top of an animal and it's kosher except that you can't go up on you on t because you're not allowed to go up on an animal on on yontiff so you know I can't divulge whether this is sturdy in the hoof but yeah is it like only good one just like crouched down I'm gonna be I can't vouch for the dimensions of it and so on silica this is in the middle of the lump is like in the hump is the middle of a circle you see it on their home so what's the bottom of this up in any animal yeah that's fine as long as it's you know wide enough and we need to be a minimum of seven by seven thousand which is like 20 22 23 inches okay so we're looking straight on actually I think you go you go in front you there's no front well there's no front you get in in you get you go in from the front of the animal that's how you go into the into the sukkah good luck right it's obviously an heir to Searle is the name of I think that's the website I got it from on the bottom and it's should be thick and anything right it is thick right it's a camel ride but on top of an inner circle so I can tell you know the dimensions everything are kosher but it definitely could be kosher you can make it kosher one if I'm always asking it certainly does it suka near the bottom yes it doesn't need a floor but this has the floor can be the the hump if it's big enough mmm that's the penis you Peter why is it different than writing uh seems like a you think you think you're not treating almost complaining or not it's hard to say you think the camel is not being treated right how do I know okay well I mean it's not that much different than camel rides I mean I guess thing doesn't weigh too much what they put on top of it they ride aren't they beasts of burden I can carry a lot okay let's go to the next one if you have any questions you can chat with us here on the bottom here let me make that a little bigger on the right side you can chat with us okay let's go to the next one which is okay this one here this is a big truck also Chabad looks like they took a flatbed truck they put walls up around it and they drive it around now people go into the circle it's fine it's fine I mean it could be you know you put the stock as long as the stock doesn't blow away yes the window fit for the roof on this I mean it's opening it's an 11 it's not right right there's nothing on top so they built walls and they put it you could see there's there's a post on the side so they will put this clock on top as long as the stock doesn't blow away in a normal wind it would be okay probably they'd have to tie it down I just want to mention we've discussed before the best thing to tie down stock with is we found something called raffia RAF FIA which is a natural string not woven it's not it's not just they pull it on the ground they put into it could you use a can't use plastic no you shouldn't use that to pull to tied down so it doesn't blow away you shouldn't use fishing string we'll talk about that a little more wheat or something you could use a piece of wood but that's not gonna do it over here so this would be kosher technically you could go up on it on your TV if it's not moving it's just you know it's it's like a trailer house it's not you know it's not moving anywhere so I don't know if it's meant for you until possibly Wow okay next one we have this interesting Soaker okay can you tie it down tight Shlomo's asking it or doesn't need to be loose oh you can tie it down tight no problem tying it down tight you want it to be tight so that it doesn't blow away okay this is an army sucker somewhere on the US air mattress US Army's somewhere in the world I don't remember where it is but interesting about the silk is only has half a wall that actually is kosher because like many people have on their decks mm-hmm similar situation right and then they put up the you they would usually put up some sort of nice they don't want everybody watching them eat so I put up some so right very close around different they have usually by the deck it's not even solid like this this is right this is solid III suppose this is to save on wood you know they wherever they are they probably don't have you know so much access to wood but it's kosher because as long as from from the bottom till the top of this is ten Falken which is approximately forty inches or so that's enough and then we say that it's as if the walker says it says if the rest of the sugar goes up to the top their walls are the circle go up to the top and then there's stock on the top and just want to go back it doesn't look like you have to worry about blowing away and this this looks like a very dry look Anita bottom so he doesn't get a floor it doesn't need a wood floor we're not saying that this can't be suspended in the ears of it well that's what he was asking about the camel right I just might make sure that's clear right well the camel itself was the bottom if right if it's large enough if it's wide and has to be a certain minimum size right so this would be this is definitely this actually looks like a very nice kosher kosher wise it's very kosher so it looks good cool too I mean home run in the vendors and you can see that they have these barriers here to prevent anybody from from knocking into it driving into it yeah oh okay let's go to the next one this is another looks like about sukima Beal same idea as the other one driving around somewhere and major city somewhere and ideas people come in and they shake they shake to live in the circle maybe have something to eat same ideas that wouldn't have any picture class here this is also this one is very interesting you know this is in a place called neo dia de manera to throw which which has like biblical historical Jewish what's it called intervention no but I don't know what they tried to do over here because this is I guess some sort of SoCo is supposed to be that's the way with advertise that but doesn't have any walls so you can see this has a very nice floor over here it has nice stuff but I think it's really it's just for show because there's no walls there's a little bit of a wall over here but I don't think that's tall enough to know sitting behind it anyways I don't know if you would say sit on top of this and this would have been 10 so there would be something to talk about how logically but like as it is it's not kosher it's just for show and fun ok ok next one camels get no respect this one is not a traveling circuit but it goes together with the actually with the army circa you see this work over here on the second floor it looks like a hotel somewhere in there to sell flowers actually it says the way I can see it says monomer of him the King's hotel this is the King's Hotel in you shall I am so where the walls it well it's the same as the one before is that this from here to here it's not a wall of flowers is it they must be signed it means yeah they must attach the flowers to something so flowers right no it could well if I would before as long as it's sturdy enough yes it can work if it's sturdy and doesn't blow in the wind you can have that no problem so there's something between here and here right so this is assuming this is about 40 inches which it looks like it it probably is from here to here then the rest of this we look as if the walls go up to the top and now it's completely covered and they have stock on top how high is it off the ground you witness says it must be a rail behind the flowers that's true right there must be something going because doesn't want people falling off so so this is the bottom of the circuit right here with people walking and then that's just make a difference how far it is up in the end no right a Sukkah can't can't be more than 20 omits we know but the 20 omits is from the bottom of the souk in that case here is this poor Dominican you can have it right and the arts hookahs way up but we'll see some of those keep going through I'm trying to find my list okay as you're stalking right here did like this sucker like these suckers on the side of the building like this all the way up here are a very high up but the bottom of the circus over here I don't know how they do that how do they do this that it can that's what I was wondering like it goes be nervous to know anything it goes outside the level of the of the building I really don't know how they do that oh no credal I hope it's okay anyway so these are obviously higher than and then then 20 omits but that's okay because the bottom floor is is is okay this is the same idea this is a one-man cyka outside outside little little thing on the bottom this up yeah I want to show you how they put this one up one second [Music] okay this is what it looks like you know standing back on your board oh yeah it's on their window and then how do they put this up you'll see in the next picture okay here this here is like here they're putting it up okay it's this is like in the air conditioner sit right santini told her they took out in the air conditioner and then they put another exactly if there was naked maybe this is their air conditioner but the weight limit on those things right it's not for the faint of heart to put we're not necessarily recommending this this issue that's having a stuck in a dangerous spot that there's too dangerous for you to sit there well once you put it up once you put it up I don't know if it's dangerous the danger is probably in getting it you know somehow hide how heavy that those things how much of a weight limit those guys have true well you could check that probably do some you know science doing a physics a I'm sure they checked it yeah much of you see me guys yeah all right okay let's keep going okay now I want to talk about the movie we promised we talk about a car circa so this was row behind the moon's invention years and years ago the car right the second [Laughter] you might have invented the car but I wasn't around like an original Hyneman and so this is an idea that you can do if you're going away and you don't have a pop-up store you don't have a place for a sucker so what's the idea over here so let's talk we have a car where this this is where you would sit here and in its chair that's here then on top there's Scott over the two doors that are open so I have one wall is the front door of the car the second wall is the back door of the car and where's the third wall there's no wall in front area where the third one third wall is the other side of the car the passenger side is the other wall now how can that be it's it's not it's not right here it's not as a sunroof there we'll talk about sunroof in a minute so there's a concept called dolphin Okuma don't forgot kuma is that the wall can bend it's it's a local of motion you see neither the wall can be considered bent so eat as long as it's less than four almost which is seven feet so be from the Scott the end of the stock till the other wall it will be kosher so that is the coach let me show you better let me show you okay this is a roof of a house looking at Birds ID from the top okay so you see it's cut out in the middle if you would put sock on here then you might be very well be able to sit inside this as itsuka depending on how far it is from the end of the scarf till the wall so it would be less than four almost seven feet it would be kosher so this looks like it's less this looks like it's less and this looks like it's less this way maybe more but that's okay because I only need three walls that's the concept we're able to use the other side of the of the of the circle of the of the car let's go back to the car unit and I could I could I be sitting in the car no no no because it can sit under the walls right you can't you have to sit only there's only one seat for one over here it's right over here where this chair is that's it okay so now Moshe before I get to the to the to the doors up at the bottom I want to talk about this clock itself the Scott is sitting on the metal doors and the doors are Makabe tumor so you shouldn't lean your stock on something that is Makabe tumor ideally be able to be okay you would want to put something no towels in the cup you want to put some bamboo under it somehow make it rest on top of something else like you're doing you're at home that with me up some boards yes and board something so so that would make it but if you're in a bind be the avid it is the course you so go like this even leaning on the doors and you could make a broccoli okay let's talk about the the bottom of the doors here so they have to be they have to be within 312 m of the ground so let's look over here close this one okay so let's say this is another angle you can see probably there's more than three twelve feet welcome is approximately ten and a half inches or so so what you can do though is is you can pull the car up to a curb as I didn't pull it that close here if you pull the car up to a curb that could very well close that gap for you in other words the distant they didn't the height of the curb right I didn't pull the car close enough to do it properly so it's not yours he was eating you would pull the car all the way up to the curb right over the curb not over the curb the wheels will be like you normally would park next to the course you're opening the cart so when you over the card or over the curb not like I didn't hear but but closer to the curb and then even though let's say from here to here you don't have this too much space but from here to here it's much less space so that's how you solve that that problem now we want to talk about the windows a little bit let's go to the next picture so you see it's a little complicated it's not but it is possible you can do it you can do it here's here's another picture here this is a little bit of an issue this space here between the car door and the and the car itself the frame this might be a little bit too much space but it depends really how tall the top of the door is before the window if that is ten thousand then this doesn't matter in space doesn't matter or if you have space here you can fill it up with something so you need to be basically the easiest way would be that if if the top of the door before the window starts is tenth welcome at least ten at least ten fuck'em off off the ground then you have a kosher wall and then we don't care about what this space over here okay so that is the car Sukkot and I don't know anybody actually did this but that's good to know I mean it's good to not keep us some scotch on the back right right okay now let's move on to the next type of travels Soaker you can only do it with this again okay so now if you have a van let's talk about the van event well let's let's say you have a van like this okay but you do basically need two doors a minivan so minivan you can't do that no word but this is a like a 12 cedar van right okay you open the two doors in the in the back okay and now what problems do you have you have a couple problems one problems where the third wall well the third wall would be the front window you know by by the driver that's too far that's more than seven feet that's not kosher the other problem is you have the distance between the bottom of the doors and the floor is too high it's more than 3000 so but we do have a picture of somebody who solved that problem they really did this they said this is a real picture the next one someone who did this really sadness okay so here's a family that allow us to use this picture okay babe gave us was just permission okay so a room is asking why can't you see that consider the back of the backseat as a third wall you could but it's not it's it's it's too high off the floor as well so what they did over here is they put they put a board here and they attached it to the it's attached it's attached it has to be attached yes they attached it to the these glue this tape here okay and the same thing on this side this one's a little bent but okay as long as it's sturdy enough okay then you can't see what's behind them but what they did is that I stacked up their luggage so behind between this man and his son there's luggage they're nice and on the bottom of the car also there's luggage but but under you know behind it this person's feet this luggage so the third wall is the luggage behind the luggage doesn't move in the wing well I'll get your sturdy and then on top here you see they put a cross beam okay and then they put these slats let's crossbeams hella think that they looks like they not remember something yeah they notch them up and then they put these slots there so this is this is really ingenious and they actually sat in there and they even got the baby in there so so that's what it is so you that's how that's how they made this sucker you mentioned a car the sunroof a sunroof so this is a pretty big so this son of might work and if you put stock over it because you would have less than four right and four helmets from here to here from here to here from here to here and but most of some of them not really don't allow you and also also you would meet you kid you may not be able to sit in these seats you need to be under this car it looks it looks to you like it's hard to tell the angles over a little bit right but most of the Sun roofs are really small in the middle so you'd have to sit on the console and at moon groups well they're called moon roof okay really okay so so so a plus you'd have to measure the distance from the wall right of the car and make sure it's less than farmers it might it probably is but it's really technically this looks like it might work that's why I picked this picture cool okay this is discussion here I see in the chat whether the slats are acceptable those thin flats that we had in the other picture I just let's I want to go back to that I'm sorry little sticks out of the old days okay these are little slides they're very thin they're maybe 2 inches wide and multi-modal steaks yeah yeah so any 1/4 inch high and they're very flimsy what's behind holes and they are kosher actually leave them okay so we're behind molds they are kosher so I'm not sure maybe they're those old they're not but we hope that they are but I want to tell you something else about these slats this is another type of suku you could make this is real behind my suggestion as well get a bundle of those slats you throw them in your trunk now when you want to make a sucker so you weave you weave them in and out of each other and and till you like you like I do it when I make my stuff so you have you basically you know weave it in and we're gonna have like yeah like weave it's like a big wicker think like a wicker thing right yeah so that it would be one more you make it tall enough and wide enough and then you make another one for a second while I'm making the one for a third wall and then you have to tie them together so now you have three walls and you take you take the rest of your sticks and you throw them on top for this so as long as it's sturdy enough this thing right that is not annoying the big question then it would be coming sure those seams are pretty flimsy and they are that they are like 40 inches tall because I pounded into the ground a little bit I think you have to make it stick like it's right make it sturdy but so all you really need is a bundle of /id able to make a circle yeah that's our vitamins idea okay I never saw anybody do that either but it's a radical okay let's move on are there any questions we can help you with okay let's move on to the next okay so let's go on to the pop-up circus these are all so interesting and I am old enough to remember before there was such a thing as a pop-up so but they kept coming out with these new hat one I actually I do have one other I use it without travel I trip when I've traveled the little building on colloid I have um-hmm the coastal a $100 so I years ago I said to my wife I said you know there's so many easy ways to make a Sukkah soon someone's gonna have a sucker that you just like pull it and it pops up and so long behold if there's any time you see what you like right stole my dear so this is a pop-up circle what is so basically I'm not most people I've seen this you see this it is a there's a beam bar over here to keep it sturdy the main thing with this okay is you want to keep it in the wind right I can't if your normal wind would come it's gonna blow away then it's not kosher even if there's no wind sound like a tempt could this pop up Stan you know seven days as it is it's not staked in it's not gonna stand at all it will be windy you know maybe this is an area it doesn't have any winds I don't know where it is but in Baltimore this without staking it down it's not gonna it's not going to withstand the wind so you need to tie it down in some ways some of them come with its methods to tie their mind didn't have a stake but it has a band on the outside that you could attach to something so you need to do that so not only that Scott can't blow away in the wind but the super can't blow away in the wind I like this design because they have like the walls going up above this is above the Scott which will help you keep people from blowing away right let's look at take a look at that from the inside I have a picture from the inside here so this is standing on the inside like looking up that's me okay sort of towards the side looking up this is the this is the mat over here and you can see that there's a cross beam okay that's holding down the mat and again you would need something to tie down this mat so it doesn't blow away and win some raffia some natural string okay so if I'm busy asking okay draw come up to room inuzuka so what is this all about this that you don't need a circle you have to look into motion fighting is a tube about it it's not so simple if you're going to great adventures is anyone right but you need to have this okay there is certain you have to look at the two over there it's not it's not it's not a simple thing maybe if you're going on a mitzvah excursion then you'll be put there but all part of the adventure what's that circus right hobbies right slow-mo is asking zip ties are no good the problem with tying down with zip ties is a zip ties are plastic and last because not to it's not kosher for scoff and then you're going to end up being mommy supporting your sock with something that is not kosher for scarf and that's not look happy once so you can still sit in it but it's not ideal okay so okay let's look at the next I want to show you a let me with that with this technology I have the ability to show you some some video you know if you have YouTube block you won't be able to see this so please bear with us I think it's pretty interesting I don't know if it's available anymore let's take a blow-up so let's take a look let's take a look at this this was an advertisement I found in Israel can you hear the audio moving I can't get the audio no the audio of the video of the video okay you can't I can't the comedy fit with the audio of is music is music but I don't think that this sucker is is is sold anymore in ways that's what it's called it's weighs about a hundred pounds well so it's not as portable as you would think I think that might have been I had wheels that might have been their problem but you can watch them set up this it's actually very nice that's like a blow-up thing mm-hmm that's cool can you jump around in it like on one of those uh so you can see the timer he said it to start going no potential amis becoming the pocket a ceramic capacitor belvane Vishnu yacht Mishka lequel been kilo in migite maybe that Olli a ship show the caponata egg omlet it is a little it's evil Asuka this could be don't act on jiminy moto be mine you show me a light savute we lost the mission is a gravel image a baby daughter shallow 16 shallow she shallow she shallow she Alba vessel Osaka mesh yes official Sonata bit so ahmad Mila a 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don't think that it's that it's available on the market because I looked around and I couldn't find it so that's that's that one okay let's keep keep going are there any questions or comments okay we don't have any business relationship in any of these companies I wanted we don't do that anything that we've shown until now we do certify the stock them they will talk about yeah ok ok so now ok that's it that's it for the for the Suki's let's talk a few minutes about this car ok cuz we always get got you covered we always get someone that that other right oh well I forgot to mention we have the new Cassius currents that just came out today let me see let me put this up here it's not too much better you can't see there but anyway it's about Rob Heineman has this an article about the stock in this in this in this coming kasia's cards and Robbie Rosen has an article no I do not no no no so that would cover a lot of the issues with the with the with the stock let me bring that back ok so here is the so if rhyme is saying that these those strips are I'm a Kabul tumor they maybe it's a construction the furring strips a little one of the that we were talking about before as lights and slats yeah billions right now you're not in construction it's not what you're thinking it's not very strips those are tomato steaks it may differ gardening right they don't they don't using construction and that wouldn't make them a couple to my in any event but there would be a much too flimsy for construction it would be other problem but they're not so we know apparently I guess it friends ruffled it's no good but we hold it there fine okay let's talk about the stock who that Starrcade does certify and this is one of our letters certification we have a number of companies doing this this is one of them I a new letter I haven't seen it with all the pictures in them know we created letters yeah Illustrated letter we made it a few years ago like this that you get that star came with what's unique about it is it has fishing wire monofilament holding it together and it comes with one of these letters if it doesn't come with a letter like this it's not certified by star K and the idea of the fishing string is that it's it's it's sturdy at last all right it's not in the natural products that made with natural string holding it together they won't last as long as the as the fishing wire mat but they also have a whole logic challenge and that's what's this whole weather is about which which means that you have to put it up in a certain way so that the string is not holding the this car and giving it support right so you need to have the cross beams underneath it and it has to be perpendicular to that you need to have cross beams on top holding it down radicular to this particular turn Xenia the way that the things are running perpendicular to the slats to this to the slab and the mat to the mat to the bamboo because the bamboo will be resting on the on the edge of the bamboo isn't running like this right and your beams are running underneath of it right right right you know what you don't want to have is that the these this is sagging in between the support beams because then what's happening is that the plastic is what's holding it up right right so you have to put it perpendicular so that's and then on top of it you have to put the the if you need something to hold it down you have to put that in a certain way so you need to get to you know if you buy this stock you need to get the leather hold onto it or you can download it from our website and and make sure you put up your suka in this way every year our YouTube video on that it's good idea I had to put up star kmetz yeah excellent idea okay okay now climb is asking about the home depot mats so that was some history with that yeah a few years ago the CRC in Chicago put out they did some study and they found that the home depot mats which are much cheaper than any other mats that you can find in certain the home depot mats right were where they felt were kosher for stock and but they also put out a letter like this similar because they were there those are held together with wire that's metal covered with plastic like a mil of wire that's totally coated basically and so you need to put it up in a very similar fashion as we said so there was a whole letter that they put out of the whole one this and explaining why it's okay and how to put it up the question that the times asking are they Makabe were they Makabe to mow because of the metal string and the answer is the CRC felt that the because those were made for fencing so it's less tamashii macaca therefore it wasn't macabre tumor and the only problem would be the the spring is in coach of a stock and put it up in this way and it's kosher we asked her behind the man about it and he agreed with them he agreed he weird that it was there was kosher since then no the CRC we you're retracted there they're not putting out any more of these letters approvals because they found that a lot of times the is not enough coverage in the mats they don't give you more than 50% shade so you need to use a few of them number two they found that a lot of times there's the bamboo breaks and then the matter what you do you are supporting the stock with this metal wire and that's only a bit of it and therefore it shouldn't be it shouldn't be used so they slowly retracted and since then we tell people you know the CRC is the one that went into it if they're not looking into it and they're not going to being improvement we're not gonna be proving it either at all so basically you should get something with a with a hex check someone found some mats on Amazon for very cheap and everybody's trying to understand that we save money on money is crucial you know the cost is crucial so they they found in Amazon some mats and they asked me to look at it but I couldn't tell if the strings holding together were woven or not and that would be that would say on the description well if I would buy it I would be able to see but they couldn't tell from the pictures so we couldn't prove that either but these are the kind of questions we get can we use this mannequin is that mat you know how to put up the net okay so I think Rob I would come to the end of our presentation and if any last questions we can take those I think we cover it a fair bit of the brand yeah all those which one you which is your favorite cat will secure we don't want to try then the boat slip is nice then we should try one of them camels suka if we have this webinar next year we can have it we can have a little video of that right there by Goldberg on the camel I'm trying to think there are any other types of silk is that you could reasonably have on unfold you have on a car animal by the way you know the animal can be a wall of your suka yes you haven't got nine walls I didn't see any of those a little hard to keep the animal standing there but then you have to like you have to make sure between the legs is something today because you need a wall there and you know but actually the mission talks about you could have animals tied down as your suka oh yeah I was waiting for the scooter circle okay how do we do that it's good in sticker in Israel I saw pergola that has slats and it's considered kosher look at FEMA I mean yeah Merrill is no they mean the slats are on top on top of the things discussion we had before that's on top as this that's what many people will use very now that's right exactly okay if you have any questions on this or other topics please give us a call at 4 1 0 4 8 4 4 1 1 0 email email us at info at star - Georg and I want to wish everybody a CEO summit over kajoor I couldn't even focus and we have a next webinar God willing after Yom Tov oh yes another month a long haul till then somehow we'll manage we'll have to get through the recession and please join us again next time if you want to see the archive of this video or 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